Place d'Orleans: potential redevelopment?

[JCL]

Originally Posted by Dundas

I noticed the ugly yellow building on St-Joseph Blvd next to the Auto Garage in front of the Goodlife in place dOrleans has been fenced off all around. I really hope they are planning on demolishing this place it's a hole thats been vacant for a long time.

Anyone know what the plan is here?

UPDATE: The building is being demolished.

[Dundas]

Yeah, that's the one. I couldn't find any info on a new building proposal there on the internet.

[DEWLine]

A lot of Orléans residents have jobs in the Ottawa-Gatineau core neighbourhoods, and might prefer to be able to work closer to home. Or, at worst, have faster commuting options than they currently have. How that gets done...?

[DEWLine]

Remembering that the Royal Bank branch was supposed to be an anchor storefront for a smaller mall. The rest of which never did get built.

[DEWLine]

Noting that City Hall also has an application on file for a second single-story retail box to be built right at the Champlain/Place d'Orléans intersection, directly across the north gateway from the Transitway station. No word therein on who the preferred tenant(s) would be. Yet.

[JCL]

Originally Posted by DEWLine

Noting that City Hall also has an application on file for a second single-story retail box to be built right at the Champlain/Place d'Orléans intersection, directly across the north gateway from the Transitway station. No word therein on who the preferred tenant(s) would be. Yet.

Query D07-12-16-0096 on http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/home.jsf?lang=en

It's a new Mastermind Toy store, as revealed in the report titled D07-12-16-0096 Site Servicing and Stormwater Management Report.

[ElieB]

It's amazing how poorly Transit Oriented Development is understood in Ottawa... Our transit stations are all surrounded by seas of asphalt and anytime parcels get redeveloped its just more single storey retail. Doesn't help that the lands are mostly owned and operated by REITs which don't have a clue what mixed-use means apparently. Shouldn't they have vested interests in extracting the great ROI on these lands? Don't they understand how badly they keep underdevelopping?

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by ElieB

Doesn't help that the lands are mostly owned and operated by REITs which don't have a clue what mixed-use means apparently. Shouldn't they have vested interests in extracting the great ROI on these lands? Don't they understand how badly they keep underdevelopping?

RioCan does... hence all the redevelopment proposals for their lands at Westgate, Elmvale, the strip mall by Blair Station, and soon, Lincoln Fields.

[Dundas]

Someone turn that closed down bagel shop at the 174 exit into a midsize highrise. It would be pretty nice to see that!

[acottawa]

I wonder what the demand for these projects would be. I'm not sure how many people want to live in shopping mall parking lots. Blair seems the most likely to succeed because there are actual amenities beyond transit nearby.

[Dundas]

Originally Posted by acottawa

I wonder what the demand for these projects would be. I'm not sure how many people want to live in shopping mall parking lots. Blair seems the most likely to succeed because there are actual amenities beyond transit nearby.

A condo in a parking lot walking distance to:
No frills (loblaws)
Farmboy
Goodlife
Tim hortons
Shoppers
3 major banks
And all the stores in Place d'Orléans
That's pretty good I think, a LCBO would be a good addition to the area

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by Dundas

A condo in a parking lot walking distance to:
No frills (loblaws)
Farmboy
Goodlife
Tim hortons
Shoppers
3 major banks
And all the stores in Place d'Orléans
That's pretty good I think, a LCBO would be a good addition to the area

I guess that might appeal to some seniors, although townhouse prices in Orleans are pretty low, so condo buyers would have to really want a condo lifestyle and not care about a view or parkland.

[1overcosc]

Originally Posted by acottawa

I wonder what the demand for these projects would be. I'm not sure how many people want to live in shopping mall parking lots. Blair seems the most likely to succeed because there are actual amenities beyond transit nearby.

It is notable that all of RioCan's projects are rentals, not condos. That said, it's probably because as a REIT they need annual profits.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by acottawa

I wonder what the demand for these projects would be. I'm not sure how many people want to live in shopping mall parking lots. Blair seems the most likely to succeed because there are actual amenities beyond transit nearby.

Depending on the design and the staging of such a conversion project, they either wouldn't be "living in a shopping mall parking lot", or, at least, wouldn't be doing so for very long.

[eternallyme]

Are there any successful redevelopments that have occurred in Canada without demolishing the entire site?

[Norman Bates]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

Are there any successful redevelopments that have occurred in Canada without demolishing the entire site?

The Woodward's condo development in Vancouver?

[DEWLine]

Primaris really doesn't get it. They haven't gotten the floor space inside the main building rented out fully at the moment and they want to add "out-buildings" for new tenants.

[Dundas]

To me it seems like they got the right idea.
They want to fill a portion of their oversized parking lot used by "park and ride" cars into money making out-buildings.
The tenant is a RBC with a drive-thru ATM

[1overcosc]

Ugh. I hate drive-thru ATMs. I hate all drive-thrus in general but ATMs are about the worst.

[BlueJay]

Marks may be one of the largest clothing retailers however, they have been closing stores across Canada. Three of these stores that I know of were in Ottawa.