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Old Posted Feb 14, 2023, 3:16 PM
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Will this be the first time that the Canal isn’t opened for the season?
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It's unfortunate but that's the thing with weather, can't control it.

The city needs to seriously revamp Winterlude to be much less weather (and Canal dependant). Winterlude used to give Ottawa an edge on winter tourism but it's really gotten downhill in the past few years (even outside COVID).

They should look at what's being done in Montreal with Igloofest. Some great events happening and it draws huge crowds for several weeks in Jan/Feb - think of it as our winter version of Bluesfest.


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Will this be the first time that the Canal isn’t opened for the season?
Yes, I believe so. If it happens.
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This is interesting reading with the benefit of living a little further in the future than when it was written.


Climate Change: A Long-Term Strategic Issue for the NCC.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2023, 3:41 AM
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Rideau Canal Skateway won't open this winter
Warmer, wetter weather could jeopardize future of popular Ottawa attraction

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Posted: Feb 24, 2023 12:34 PM EST | Last Updated: 6 hours ago




The Rideau Canal Skateway will not open this winter, making this season the first one ever without the popular pastime and tourist draw.

The National Capital Commission (NCC) said Friday afternoon the closure is disappointing, but the weather didn't co-operate.

"This winter's higher-than-average temperatures, snow and rain … contributed to a thin and porous ice surface," it tweeted.

"The latest ice tests show that the ice surface remains unsafe. Any further efforts are unlikely to yield a different result."

This winter in Ottawa has been one of the warmest in decades, with more than 250 centimetres of snow falling as of Friday — weather conditions poorly suited to the formation of thick, smooth ice.

The NCC first dispatched a team of workers armed with brooms and shovels to clear a short section of the frozen waterway for skating in 1971. This year is the first time the skateway hasn't opened since then.

The capital's annual Winterlude festival, which ended Monday, also did not have one of its major attractions for the first time ever.

Until now, the shortest skating season on the canal was in 2016, when the skateway was open for just 18 days. The latest opening date was Feb. 2, 2002.

Last winter, the entire 7.8-kilometre length of the skateway opened in mid-January and lasted 41 days until early March.

The NCC bills it as the world's largest skating rink, calling it "an iconic and beloved attraction" as it closed the door on its chances for the season.

"We already look forward to welcoming visitors to the world's largest skating rink next winter."

As winters in Ottawa grow warmer and wetter, the NCC has been experimenting with new ice-making methods, and has also updated and bolstered its climate change strategy.

"This year taught us a great deal about the effects of milder winters on the Skateway … [We] remain committed to applying what we learn going forward," it said in Friday's news release.

According to a long-term risk assessment commissioned by the NCC, the warmer weather has shortened the average skating season on the UNESCO World Heritage site by about four days per decade, typically at the start of the season.

According to the report, February starts could become the norm, while skating seasons of 40 days or more will become the exception by 2050. (The report's authors didn't dwell on the possibility that the skateway might remain closed altogether.)

"In the long term, the NCC should determine the threshold for which investing in maintaining the ice surface will exceed the benefits provided, and consider diversification of winter programming surrounding the canal," the report said.

It mentions the possibility of hosting concessions and other winter activities such as cross-country skiing next to the canal on the NCC's pathways and Queen Elizabeth Driveway.

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I wonder if it is possible to grade the bed, drain it completely and then flood it like you would a backyard rink?
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Do the downtown section as a chilled rink, and with heat pump/transfer technology use the extracted heat to heat buildings
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Really sad it didn't open this year, and after the NCC and Carleton University put in so much extra effort to get it done.

Meanwhile, the City is not helping by using stupid amounts of salt everywhere.
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Do the downtown section as a chilled rink, and with heat pump/transfer technology use the extracted heat to heat buildings
It's a good idea, and one that was just setup at the new Shipyards outdoor skate plaza in North Vancouver:

https://www.nsnews.com/in-the-commun...-plaza-6194263
https://www.cnv.org/parks-recreation...ds/skate-plaza
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What if we refrigerated the Rideau Canal?
Wayne Borrowman's cool idea just might save the skateway from climate change and heat your home, too

Alistair Steele · CBC News
Posted: Apr 13, 2023 4:00 AM EDT | Last Updated: 6 hours ago


Wayne Borrowman has never skated on the Rideau Canal, but he just might have a cool idea to save Ottawa's famous attraction from climate change.

Borrowman is an engineer and director of research and development for CIMCO Refrigeration, a company headquartered in Burlington, Ont., that claims to have built more than half of the world's artificially cooled ice rinks.

With more than three decades of experience in the industry and hundreds of major projects including Olympic venues under his belt, Borrowman knows a thing or two about the thermal systems required to maintain a top-quality ice surface.

So when he learned this past winter that warm, wet weather had for the first time in its 52-year history prevented the Rideau Canal Skateway from opening, Borrowman saw an opportunity.

"I guess the first thought I had was, well, we're in the refrigeration business and we make ice," he told CBC. "Yeah it's a big surface, but we've done big refrigeration systems."

In a blog post, Borrowman estimated the skateway's ice surface to equal about 60 NHL rinks. To him, it's just a matter of scaling up.

"That may sound crazy to some, but I've spent my whole career involved with the design and installation of large cooling systems and I can assure you from an engineering perspective it is possible," he wrote.

Underlying a typical refrigerated rink is a network of some 15,000 metres of piping through which a brine solution or propylene glycol is pumped, extracting heat from the ground and keeping the ice surface above in a solid state.

Based on Borrowman's estimate, refrigerating the Rideau Canal would require nearly one million metres of piping, with chilling units about the size of a shipping container placed at regular intervals along its 7.8-kilometre length.

The big question is where all those pipes will go — encased in concrete, set into the mud, or somehow suspended at an optimal depth — and whether they can coexist with the canal's other seasonal uses.

"The issue is that it may not be practical from an installation or operating cost perspective," Borrowman acknowledged in the blog post.

Undaunted, he began to consider the potential output of such a massive thermal system.

Traditionally, the heat extracted from the ground during the refrigeration process was simply expelled into the atmosphere. More recently, CIMCO and other refrigeration companies have been putting that heat to better use to warm arenas and other buildings.

"It's not just about cooling, it's about what you can do with the heat that you would otherwise have lost," Borrowman explained.

One example is the Shipyards Skate Plaza in North Vancouver, where CIMCO installed a system that not only chills the ice, but also provides space heating and hot water to nearby buildings — enough to warm the equivalent of 40 homes.

Borrowman estimates the thermal output of a refrigeration system capable of chilling the Rideau Canal would be similar to that of a massive district energy system in Sweden, thought to be the world's largest. (A district energy system is already operating at the Zibi development on the Ottawa River.)

So the Rideau Canal could one day provide Ottawans with far more than winter recreation — it could heat their homes, too.

"I would want to be real clear here that this was sort of a thought exercise," Borrowman told CBC. "But think about some difficult things that humanity has done that are more complicated than this."

Shawn Kenny, a professor at Carleton University's department of civil and environmental engineering who has been working with the National Capital Commission (NCC) to improve ice conditions on the Rideau Canal Skateway, agrees that from a purely scientific perspective, Borrowman's idea is "doable."

"The concepts are there in terms of what's feasible and what's not, in an engineering sense … but I think there are other softer issues," Kenny said.

Chief among those is convincing the NCC and Parks Canada, which manages the UNESCO World Heritage Site, that refrigerating the canal is a viable solution. Then there's the enormous cost and upheaval that would be involved in constructing a district energy system capable of delivering heat to thousands of homes, businesses and institutions throughout central Ottawa.

In an emailed statement to CBC, the NCC did not respond directly to Borrowman's idea. Instead, it lauded its partnership with Carleton University "to identify strategies to adapt Skateway operations to the impacts of climate change."

Among the innovations Kenny and his team have been working on is a "slush cannon" to help ice form at the front end of the skating season. They're also using 3D printers to assemble an army of "snowbots," remote-controlled snowblowers that can be used to clear the ice when it's too thin for heavier equipment.

This summer, the group also plans to experiment with thermosiphons, which are used in the Arctic to slow the degradation of the permafrost by removing heat, and which could potentially have the same chilling effect on the Rideau Canal.

They'll also consider how such technology might fit into a larger district energy system, Kenny said.

"It'll be at the conceptual level of how much heat do you need, what kind of system would you need, how much power would it require and how much output would it have."

Borrowman suggests his idea to refrigerate the canal could be achieved in phases, beginning with a more manageable pilot project to demonstrate its practicality and environmental sustainability.

"I just think [this] is the kind of thinking that we have to talk about," he said. "Even if it went nowhere, I think it's worth the exercise of investigating it further."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...ated-1.6807965
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I would not be at all opposed to doing some kind of trial run of this concept at Dows Lake.
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I would not be at all opposed to doing some kind of trial run of this concept at Dows Lake.
Yeah, seems like a no-brainer to take a smaller stretch of the skateway and try it out. I was thinking downtown, but could be Dow's Lake.
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Yeah, seems like a no-brainer to take a smaller stretch of the skateway and try it out. I was thinking downtown, but could be Dow's Lake.
Tie it in with the heating system at the new Civic Hospital
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Tie it in with the heating system at the new Civic Hospital
Yup, or even as the start of a district heating plan for that area, with loads of construction on the way.
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Tie it in with the heating system at the new Civic Hospital
Civic Hospital, uOttawa, City Hall, Convention Centre.

This could be an investment in a Green future, not just a way to preserve a heritage and tourism asset.
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They pretty much drain it dry in the winter. Not sure there is much potential in that.

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They pretty much drain it try in the winter. Not sure there is much potential in that.
Would they have to drain it so low if it was refrigerated?
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Pressure from ice would destroy the concrete walls of the canal. The water must be lowered so that any ice-build-up is below the lowest point of the concrete.

I believe that the remaining water in the canal is still flowing below the ice. I expect that moving water is more difficult to freeze, so the cooling element will need to be above the water. This would mean that any cooling tubes would need to be self-supporting (assuming that they are ‘permanently’ installed). And they would need to be robust enough to survive near the bottom of the canal water during the other three seasons.

Chilling equipment for winter ice will be difficult, and expensive, both to install and maintain.
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Here is an example of a refrigerated ice pathway. I don't think the entire canal width would need to be refrigerated up to the muddy edges. Something like this could be permanently built into the middle, and shapes can be made as you see here for access routes. There would have to be low retaining walls embedded into the sides for the remaining water to channel through and be refrigerated after the draining.

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I know this is all very dreamy and pie in the sky, but now I am honestly wondering if using the canal and Dow's Lake as a water source heat pump would actually be an excellent way to heat the hospital and more. I have a background in HVAC and it's definitely got the gears turning in my head.
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