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Old Posted Nov 9, 2010, 6:05 AM
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I LOVE IT!


We finally have something RADICALLY different from the Vancouver-norm. If this really is the design, I'm almost certain that the up-to-date/higher quality renderings to be released later this week will be absolutely fabulous. It's BOLD, it has attitude and that's a variety this city severely lacks with its buildings.

If this gets shot down, it'll be yet another statement to architects that they should just stay within the Vancouver cookie-cutter/functional norm.




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Old Posted Nov 9, 2010, 7:52 AM
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I see the Kingston Hotel is still there in a few of the renders.

Too bad they seem to be holding out & breaking up the continuity of that side of the block.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2010, 8:37 AM
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I see the Kingston Hotel is still there in a few of the renders.

Too bad they seem to be holding out & breaking up the continuity of that side of the block.
I'd be happy to see that building still there but jubilant to see the many parking garages gone.
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Question forsooth!! What now??

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Oh God. Why?
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lol I refuse to believe that is it. It can't possibly conceivably be.....
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I was thinking the same, from a few angles it looks like it is in the process of falling over.
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I LOVE IT!


We finally have something RADICALLY different from the Vancouver-norm. If this really is the design, I'm almost certain that the up-to-date/higher quality renderings to be released later this week will be absolutely fabulous. It's BOLD, it has attitude and that's a variety this city severely lacks with its buildings.

If this gets shot down, it'll be yet another statement to architects that they should just stay within the Vancouver cookie-cutter/functional norm.

It seems as if there two camps of opinion here. I would tend to place myself in the first. I think this project should be legally reviewed before the pour one ounce of concrete, let alone the first hole in the ground. So.... Fast!
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2010, 8:31 AM
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and kenny rogers roasters!
i miss the neon and i am sure some would love the neon for granville
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So I guess we know its not a fluorescent dog turd then...
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2010, 3:52 PM
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I dont think anyone really does, although I am curious as to why he doesnt just leave? This city clearly is not and never will be for him.

I think everyone, especially him, would be much happier.
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I really like the basic idea and design.

Most iconic architecture has a majority that hate it.

The Eiffel Tower was hated.
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^^

I have to agree with twoneurons.

I think some will hate it but in the future it will be loved!
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2010, 5:14 PM
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LOL at Hed the most.

Every time a new design is posted here, I can't figure out whether there are more "too boring" complaints or more "stupid design".
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LOL at Hed the most.

Every time a new design is posted here, I can't figure out whether there are more "too boring" complaints or more "stupid design".


"Vancouver's skyline is boring. Let's build taller, lets build something unique, lets build something that is at least different than what we have"

"Ok, here's something different and unique"

"No, no, no, thats crap. We didnt mean "different" or "unique" in that way"

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The actual proposal (at least one concept):

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Old Posted Nov 9, 2010, 7:40 PM
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The actual proposal (at least one concept):

I like this much better than the Google rendering.

It also better incorporates the old block on Seymour Street (but they won't be allowed to overhang Seymour St. as shown). The protruding box is getting a bit stale. They show the alley closed. Presumably there is access for the Kingston (if it's still there).

I didn't mind the block upon block theme of the Google rendering, since it referenced the "pod" that sits atop the existing building on Seymour Street.

What I didn't like about the Google rendering is the exoskeleton. It looked too frail for a building of that size - i.e. because we know that it's not holding up the building (the internal structure is doing that) - but if you are creating the illusion that it provides a useful function, then it needs to be far, far beefier than shown on that render (think of the cross-bracing on the John Hancock Tower, Chicago; and the HSBC pic posted shows a much heavier industrial form). As presented in that Google render, it looked like decoration (ditto for the cross-braces on the VanCity Centre).
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The actual proposal (at least one concept):
Seymour & Georgia & Richards: 2fl base
Seymour & Georgia: 5fl +roof
Richards & Georgia: 17fl +roof
Robson & Richards: 26fl visible

Any guesses as to how many sq ft in this rendering?

It would be nice if the Kingston wasn't a nail house, and agreed to sell its land in exchange for space in the new building or an equity share of it. That should work better for both sides

On an individual case level, I don't mind losing the alley (at least on the Georgia side)

I wouldn't want to lose alleys on a large scale though. Curb side trash is a smelly mess. Will the City retain the right of way, does compensation have to be paid, is this common?

Longer term alleys could be better organized where it's only slow commercial vehicles (doing deliveries at service entrance, picking up trash) or those accessing underground parking entrances, have light controlled crossings of roads synchronized with parallel roads, and make for a great network of bike or bus lanes. You lose virtually no throughput on roads, in fact there would be more road lanes available and fewer vehicles entering or exiting those lanes in the middle of moving traffic. You gain a huge network targeted for traffic faster than pedestrian but slower than cars. Bury the hydro lines, add some lighting, signal the road crossing, and ticket anything blocking the alley.

Bikes, skateboards, rollerblades, segways... imagine the possibilities. I call it the inner city seawall
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The actual proposal (at least one concept):


The original render, posted by PHESTO, some time back, for easier comparison. Hope that's OK.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2010, 5:15 PM
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I really hope that those are the renders. I love it! In comparison to Bentall 6 this is way better. My only beef with this project is the size of the office component. 22 floors and another 10 and I'm happy or make the building stand out more somehow at the top.

I think if the Ritz were ever to be built that would be our architecturally significant building.

All in all I'm excited for all the new office development talk going on in the city.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2010, 5:46 PM
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Those renders are 80s-awesome. They don't seem to be Henriquez's style though. I think they're neat and wouldn't mind the project looking like that, but my guess is it won't look like that in the end.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2010, 6:28 PM
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I think the basic premise of this massing study shows a lot of promise. And I trust Henriquez to deliver on the details in a way that is better than most of us could imagine. Just look at what he did with the W43 tower of Woodward’s. I was expecting to like it , and then he came up with the leaf pattern in the ironwork and it went from pretty cool to amazing. I’m sure as this is refined it will get better and better.

The office bit could use another “rack” though…
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2010, 6:52 PM
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^ Disappointing. Looks just like more of the uninspired/unoriginal same of what we already have in this city.


I, for one, absolutely loved the concept of the first few renderings posted.
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