Stinson School Lofts | ? | 4 fl | Complete

[Jon Dalton]

Working class now means driving out of town to work a shitty job. It fails as an identity for Hamilton. It worked when there were plenty of factory jobs that paid a living wage, as far as the result of our former prosperity was mostly sprawl.

That said I do agree with lower prices. This is a city where you can buy a decent condo for $50k.

[SteelTown]

[SteelTown]

The model suite

[matt602]

Not bad.

[emge]

Could be better, but looks like higher-quality finishes and a very nice place to live.

It'll do its job though -- I think it'll attract the market it's designed to. Nice detail with the coloured accent wall too.

Though it's relatively minor, I wish they would have gone for some warmer and more detailed doors, or at least door trim. That would make it look much more classic than the builder's white six-panel.... and the kitchen cupboards are situated fairly low for the ceiling height, especially since one's set unevenly a bit higher, and the width of the island isn't very usable on the kitchen side.

Again, just minor details, but ones I'd look at if I was buying something in this price range.

[crhayes]

Originally Posted by emge

Could be better, but looks like higher-quality finishes and a very nice place to live.

It'll do its job though -- I think it'll attract the market it's designed to. Nice detail with the coloured accent wall too.

Though it's relatively minor, I wish they would have gone for some warmer and more detailed doors, or at least door trim. That would make it look much more classic than the builder's white six-panel.... and the kitchen cupboards are situated fairly low for the ceiling height, especially since one's set unevenly a bit higher, and the width of the island isn't very usable on the kitchen side.

Again, just minor details, but ones I'd look at if I was buying something in this price range.

The cupboards can't be too much higher or many people would need a step stool to use them

[realcity]

very nice. I like the poster of One King.

[adam]

Big windows and high ceilings will be a huge selling point

[emge]

Nah, I'm talking tiny details here, just a four-inch space or so.

It's the difference between the cabinet above the stove and the rest of the cabinets. They offset it probably for visual interest and to define parts of the kitchens,and so they could stick a wine rack in there and perhaps showcase that it could be "display space"

The problem is, you can see the cheap 'eh, we didn't bother to put the same veneer on this' panel of white laminated MDF on that four inches - something that higher-end homebuyers would notice.

Another thing that's often done these days is that a second set of upper cabinets, either regular-size or horizontal ones (which yes, one would need a stepstool to reach) are placed above the regular cabinets. This open-floor-plan one-side kitchen doesn't lend itself too well to that concept, but the ceiling height would certainly accomodate them.

Again, though, a minor detail, but in this price range it can be about minor details, and if I was buying a $350k place, I wouldn't want to see particleboard showcased in the kitchen.

[waterloowarrior]

There is an infomercial for this development on shoptv right now... Promotes Hamilton a lot

[BCTed]

I just had a quick look at the price list at the project Web site at http://stinsonschool.com/prices.html

Some details:

- 60 units for sale
- only one is priced below $250K and that is a studio at $159,900
- median price is $379,900. Mean price is $400,000
- Ten of the units are priced at $599,900 or higher. Six of those are priced at $699,900
- A note at the bottom reads: "Prices subject to change at the developers [sic] discretion.", so the prices are not fixed.

The units seem to be quite large, but I cannot picture many sales at these prices. Also, Harry really needs to get himself a proofreader.

[Blurr]

The site says that there is a heat pump that needs maintenance.

Does anyone know how the building will be heated?

[BCTed]

Originally Posted by BCTed

I just had a quick look at the price list at the project Web site at http://stinsonschool.com/prices.html

Some details:

- 60 units for sale
- only one is priced below $250K and that is a studio at $159,900
- median price is $379,900. Mean price is $400,000
- Ten of the units are priced at $599,900 or higher. Six of those are priced at $699,900
- A note at the bottom reads: "Prices subject to change at the developers [sic] discretion.", so the prices are not fixed.

The units seem to be quite large, but I cannot picture many sales at these prices. Also, Harry really needs to get himself a proofreader.

Details from the current pricing page:
- 67 units now listed, but only 51 have prices attached
- 22 units are now priced at or below $250K (4 at $249,900, 18 below it)
- median price (of the units with listed prices) is now $299,900. Mean price is now $296,700
- only two units are now listed at $599,900 or higher. They are both right at $599,900. No longer are any units priced at $699,900.

Prices are down by quite a bit, but still seem far too high to me.

[markbarbera]

From what I understand, the $699K units have disappeared because the revised plans no longer includes a row of new townhouses along Alanson. The project is now strictly loft conversion of the existing building.

The removal of the $699K towns from the plans obvious pushes down the overall median and mean pricing. I believe you'll find the remaining units are still priced at roughly the same as when originally posted. Another change to the overall plan is the conversion of the auditorium into several condo units instead of the original plan to retain it as a common use facility for condo owners.

[SteelTown]

http://www.dailywebtv.com/Hamilton/v...-School-Lofts-

[BCTed]

Originally Posted by SteelTown

http://www.dailywebtv.com/Hamilton/v...-School-Lofts-

Not surprisingly, this project seems to be changing a fair bit on the fly. Last week, I counted sixty units on the pricing page of the site. This video mentions 48 units. I currently count 54 units on the pricing page.

[realcity]

good reel....

I think this will work well.... not just hope but that it will be what HS needs

[Jon Dalton]

I'm still skeptical about the prices. 1 bedrooms are $150,000 at the Ironstone condos in Burlington. Absolute crap ass location, I know, but it is a location with much higher housing prices than central Hamilton. Also, you can get a nice 2BR condo in an older building in Hamilton for $50,000.

I think the key is the smaller scale of the project. If these units are really as class as they're cracked up to be, maybe he can find a handful of buyers. In a city of half a million in a region of several million, it's not a big stretch to imagine there'd be 50 or so with the means who appreciate the style of this place enough to pay what he's asking.

I should go pay Harry a visit, he's open 7 days a week there. Maybe he'd hire me to help build this thing.

[realcity]

150$ Ironstone condo is 500 sq ft. Stinson School lofts are huge. Watch that video.

As someone who tried buying anything in Durand a few months ago those $50k condos are co-ops. I was surprised to see how many of those buildings in Durand are co-op structured.

They suck because 1. you can't get any financing 2. They're all old people so 3. They have a little granny committee that says who can and can't live in the building and 4. they definitely won't allow you to live there if you have kids.

There's a new building almost at the top of mountain above Stinson School. *Madisson Bldg* that has million dollar condos. At nite I see two top floors have lights on. I assume someone bought those. And those aren't anywhere as cool as Stinsons.

[BCTed]

Originally Posted by realcity

There's a new building almost at the top of mountain above Stinson School. *Madisson Bldg* that has million dollar condos. At nite I see two top floors have lights on. I assume someone bought those. And those aren't anywhere as cool as Stinsons.

What about the other eight floors?