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Originally Posted by Ando
It's actually amazing that it hasn't been condemned and closed.
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Agreed. One of the staircases is fully missing a stair. It's completely gone.
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Originally Posted by factis
Had lunch with my father-in-law yesterday at the Fairmont (back door burgers) and he asked how I felt about opening up the intersection. I said I was for it and he seemed shocked. So I took him on a walk into the underground and explained the safety concerns and the brutal conditions for anyone in a wheel chair or with a stroller. Needless to say he was converted. Long story short, seeing is believing. Physical tours would not be a bad idea in terms of educating the general public on this matter.
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Agreed. A big issue here (as always, and anywhere) is that people have made up their minds before considering any facts or other opinions, and they will fight to the death for them.
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Originally Posted by J.OT13
For P&M, there are no accessible entrances at street level, is that correct? People have to go though buildings for elevators. Are those lobbies open outside business hours to make them accessible at all times.
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That is correct. And on the SE side where the historic BMO building is, there is no accessible entrance at all. IIRC some of the buildings used to stay open almost 24/7, but that is not the case anymore.
I remember crossing the street underground after leaving Whiskey Dix at 2 am years and years ago, but I don't think it's possible anymore. And a lot of the signage is extremely unclear.