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Old Posted Jan 4, 2007, 10:18 PM
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I don't like this building on the backside , its like an open steel frame without any content, the top looks ok though.
Truly I hope the design changes before building this...
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those other two designs for the AXA redesign are both much better, I think. Especially the second one.
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2007, 5:30 PM
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Take a look at this site where you can see T1 grow into the sky:

http://perso.orange.fr/p2r92/Pages/Page1TourT1.html
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Old Posted Feb 11, 2007, 8:10 PM
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New proposed tower for Paris

Tour Majunga 180 meters





The AXA tower is empty and the tower is currently under in asbestos removal. The renovation will start in june.
Other rendering of New AXA tower


Diagram of the renovation
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2007, 2:51 PM
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Is there something new about the status of the Tour Majunga ??
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2007, 5:42 PM
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A third super tall for Paris after Tour Generalli and tour Phare This is..

Tour Signal

This Brisavoine post posted in an other forum
Sorry I am very lazy I will not rewrite this
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Great news on the French forum. It is confirmed that the "tour Signal" is distinct from the "tour Phare". You may remember that in the beginning it was announced that a so-called "tour Signal" would be built to symbolize the regeneration of La Défense. Then last November it was Thom Mayne's 300m tower that was selected, and the project was renamed "tour Phare". Then two months ago, during his New Year's "good wishes" press conference, the director of La Défense Authority (EPAD) hinted that the "tour Signal" was a project still alive and distinct from the "tour Phare". I wrote about that in a message some weeks ago here, but some forumers doubted my information. Now it is confirmed by EPAD itself! One French forumer asked on the official La Défense forum whether the "tour Signal" was distinct from the "tour Phare", and the admin from EPAD said YES. You can see it here if you can read French: http://www.ladefense.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=792

The fact that EPAD answered is quite remarkable. Usually they are pretty secret about what's going on in La Défense, so I was very surprised to discover this on the French forum. Especially since we are in the middle of a bitter presidential election in France, it's surprising that they answered the French forumer. They must feel quite confident about the "tour Signal" project.

According to the admin, this "tour Signal" would house the Ministry of Public Works. It had long been rumored that the ministry was planning to leave the Grande Arche where its offices are currently located, and build its own tower. Now it's confirmed, and this new tower they'd build for their offices would be the "tour Signal". Also, initially it was rumored the ministry was planning to build 80,000 m² (860,000 sq. ft) of office space, but now it was reported in the French press that they're planning to build 100,000m² (1,075,000 sq. ft). So this born-again "tour Signal" would contain 100,000 m² of office space if the ministry is the only occupier. That means the "tour Signal" would be at least 200m (600 ft) high, perhaps more. For comparisons, the 310m (1,1018 ft) US Bank Tower in LA contains 120,000 m² (1.3 million sq. ft) of office space, so the ministry is not envisioning something small.

The admin said that an architect contest would be launched to select the design of the "tour Signal". It is quite probable that we will have no renderings until the winning project is selected, same as what happened with the "tour Phare". If you re-read what I wrote here a few weeks ago, I reported this rumor that Ferrier's 335m tower could be chosen as the design for the "tour Signal" because Ferrier was furious at the way Thom Mayne's project had been chosen for the "tour Phare" (Thom Mayne didn't respect the budget assigned to contestants). Now the EPAD admin said there would be an architect contest for the "tour Signal", so what of Ferrier's tower? Perhaps Ferrier will be allowed to take part in this new contest, with a more serious chance to win this time. I don't know. Personally, I would love if Ferrier's tower is built. It's by far the most beautiful tower that I've seen proposed in La Défense.

In any case, let's remember that this "tour Signal" for the Ministry of Public Works will be a State project (unlike Generali Tower or "tour Phare" which are private projects), so it is most sensitive to political changes. Should the Socialists win back power next May-June, there's a great likelihood it would be cancelled if their recent anti-La Défense stances are to be taken at face value.

Anyway, I can't resist putting again some pictures of Ferrier's 335m (1,100 ft) tower, for those who haven't seen it already.





This is my message

According the magazine of Haut de Seine departement "92 Express" the height of Tour Signal should be around 300m

Tour Signal will be the sister of Tour Phare.
Article warning,the height of this PDf is 9 Mb

And an official source from the senat
From the start of the plan Defense 2015 Tour Signal and Tour Phare was distinct.

Sorry it is in french because I am lazy.

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Afin de « relancer » le quartier, le directeur général de l'EPAD a proposé le 2 décembre 2005 au conseil d'administration de l'établissement le Projet « La Défense 2015 », plan de développement prévoyant notamment la construction de 850.000 m² de bureaux et 100.000 m² de nouveaux logements, l'édification de deux tours de plus de 300 mètres de haut (Tour Signal et Tour Phare) et la rénovation de tours existantes.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2007, 8:05 PM
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Excellent news ... but where is it going to be built in LD ??

Rendering of "la passerelle" to connect Granite with the SGtwins:
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Some poeple said that Tour Signal height would be between 350 and 400 m
But those people are fanatic french forumer. (Like me)
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Loving the base of Tour Signal
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2007, 8:52 PM
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It is not the Tour Signal
This tower was a project for the Tour Phare
but some rumor said that this tower called Hypergreen will become the new Tour Signal.
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Old Posted Mar 17, 2007, 9:18 PM
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cool map. I notice that under unrevealed projects is "replacing Gan". I assume that would just be a renovation of the tower?

I hope they aren't planning on changing the exterior/facade... I think it looks great like it is.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 8:26 AM
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The remplacing Aurore is now know.

The tour Aurore, wich is 110 m (360 ft) high and contains 27,000 m² (290,000 sq. ft) of office space, would be demolished and replaced by a new tower called Air² which would be approx. 200-220 m (650-700 ft) high and would contain 75,000 m² (800,000 sq. ft) of office space.

Tour Aurore now :



Tour Air² :



View from the south
At the left tour Air², at the middle tour Generalli and tour Gan, at the right new tour Axa


With the new towers, tour Gan look small but today it is the third tallest skyscraper in la Defense


View from the north


Paris has now 3 szkyscraper u/c

Tour Axa : 240 m 787 ft
Tour T1 185 m : 606 ft
Tour Granite : 184 m 603 ft

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The remplacing Aurore is now know.

The tour Ariane, wich is 110 m (360 ft) high and contains 27,000 m² (290,000 sq. ft) of office space, would be demolished and replaced by a new tower called Air² which would be approx.
Is it Aurore or tour Ariane that is being replaced by Air2?
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2007, 3:17 PM
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Sorry for the mistake, It is Tour Aurore wich being replaced by Air2.

Tour Ariane is an other tower (152m built in 1973) It is in renovation.
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cool map. I notice that under unrevealed projects is "replacing Gan". I assume that would just be a renovation of the tower?

I hope they aren't planning on changing the exterior/facade... I think it looks great like it is.
Apparently GAN will move out of the building. There are rumours saying the insurance group currently hesitates between renovating and heightening the tower in a way similar to AXA, or simply destroying the building to build something taller instead.

For now there's nothing official, these are just gossips. However, Air² replacing Aurore and D2 replacing Veritas were also rumours at the beginning... and now we see the renderings. So let's wait and see.
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Is Auror going to look like that ?
Any idea which colour it will have + any changes on ground level ?
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2007, 8:00 AM
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Rendering of the renovated AXA tower:

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The top of AXA reminds me of the proposed Bishopsgate Tower in London. Kind of a curved, glass crown. I like it.
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