Parkdale Collective [159-167 Parkdale Ave] | 96m | 31f | U/C - Page 4

Boxster · #61 Posted **Mar 4, 2013, 6:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by JackBauer24

I found a place for my boat, it's my submarine I'm having problems with.

Water access means a lot to most, however it is also too expensive for most.

Try buying something in Toronto with direct access to Lake Ontario. Have you ever seen the Tall Ships Landing waterfront project in Brockville or the various water front condo developments in Kingston, how nice can it get both with marinas within minutes of walking.

Have you ever driven along Lake Ontario through Oakville for example and looked at the multi million dollar houses all with direct water front access.

The truth is most people cannot afford these...not even the cost of the land.

As for your submarine, I believe the Ottawa river is a bit restrictive and doubt it can go through the canal system. As a result, you may need to move to Toronto to get a bit of maneuvering space.

JackBauer24 · #62 Posted **Mar 4, 2013, 7:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Boxster

Water access means a lot to most, however it is also too expensive for most.

Try buying something in Toronto with direct access to Lake Ontario. Have you ever seen the Tall Ships Landing waterfront project in Brockville or the various water front condo developments in Kingston, how nice can it get both with marinas within minutes of walking.

Have you ever driven along Lake Ontario through Oakville for example and looked at the multi million dollar houses all with direct water front access.

The truth is most people cannot afford these...not even the cost of the land.

As for your submarine, I believe the Ottawa river is a bit restrictive and doubt it can go through the canal system. As a result, you may need to move to Toronto to get a bit of maneuvering space.

Anyone that knows anything about real estate knows water front lot is more costly than land-locked property - but I think the point myself and other contributors to this thread were making was that it's not a common requirement for most prospective condo buyers. Sure, everyone would love to have the downtown penthouse condo with water front access and all the bells and whistles, but it's not a realistic purchasing option for 99% of the population. Plus, water front access it's not commonly found in large metropolitan cities (and when available, as you stated, it's very expensive - even for builders). So, if I'm a builder, constructing a water front condo would definitely get a lot of potential buyers and interest, but with the cost of land and cost of going through the approval process being passed along to the buyers through the purchase price, you would be hard pressed to find a large and financially solvent market place - especially in Ottawa.

Boxster · #63 Posted **Mar 4, 2013, 8:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by JackBauer24

Anyone that knows anything about real estate knows water front lot is more costly than land-locked property - but I think the point myself and other contributors to this thread were making was that it's not a common requirement for most prospective condo buyers. Sure, everyone would love to have the downtown penthouse condo with water front access and all the bells and whistles, but it's not a realistic purchasing option for 99% of the population. Plus, water front access it's not commonly found in large metropolitan cities (and when available, as you stated, it's very expensive - even for builders). So, if I'm a builder, constructing a water front condo would definitely get a lot of potential buyers and interest, but with the cost of land and cost of going through the approval process being passed along to the buyers through the purchase price, you would be hard pressed to find a large and financially solvent market place - especially in Ottawa.

Totally agree with you. Availability and affordability are the major factors that prevent most people from even considering water front property.

As you say, Tunney's Pasture will someday be a nice area given it's proximity to Wesboro...just a matter of time.

Oh! By the way, good luck with finding a parking spot for your submarine. You may be able to find an available pier if it's not over 65 ft.

Luker · #64 Posted **Mar 5, 2013, 4:46 PM**

Waht about its proximity to West Wellington, Hintonburg, Lebreton, as well as Westboro

waterloowarrior · #65 Posted **Jun 18, 2013, 12:11 AM**

appealed to the OMB http://www.omb.gov.on.ca/ecs/CaseDetail.aspx?n=PL130529

waterloowarrior · #66 Posted **Nov 13, 2013, 5:54 AM**

hearing set for Jan 6 2014. Appeals were from the Mechanicsville Community Association and another resident. Issues list is in the pdf below
http://www.omb.gov.on.ca/e-decisions...ep-03-2013.pdf

waterloowarrior · #67 Posted **Nov 29, 2013, 4:09 PM**

OMB appeal withdrawn, application approved

vict0804 · #68 Posted **Oct 1, 2018, 12:10 AM**

Richcraft started demolishing old buildings

Davis137 · #69 Posted **Nov 25, 2018, 10:04 PM**

Is this the project that is now at least 4 floors above grade now?

McC · #70 Posted **Nov 26, 2018, 12:17 PM**

No, this one is a block south at the corner of Lyndale.

vict0804 · #71 Posted **Dec 14, 2018, 9:39 PM**

It’s demolished. Not sure what Richcraft’s plan is.

waterloowarrior · #72 Posted **Jul 17, 2020, 12:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by RideauRat

can anybody provide light on this??
A new high-density proposal for the former Nielsen Dairy (Clyde and the 417)
A site plan application for 163-167 Parkdale (an already approved high-rise)

last lines in the article
http://kitchissippiward.ca/content/k...pment-overview

Update

rocketphish · #73 Posted **Aug 11, 2020, 3:23 AM**

Richcraft Homes is proposing to redevelop the subject property at 163 Parkdale Avenue with a 31-storey residential condominium building with a ground floor commercial use. The proposed development will contain a total of 267 dwelling units, as follows: 176 one (1) bedroom units, including one (1) two (2) storey, ground-oriented townhouse unit; and, 91 (2) bedroom units, including four (4) two (2) storey, ground-oriented townhouse units.

The tower and top of the building will sit on a three (3) storey podium which will serve as the primary interface at street level. To articulate the podium, the tower has been stepped back at the 4th floor, creating a strong base that frames the streetscape and visually reduces the building’s mass at grade. The podium will incorporate five (5) ground-oriented two (2) storey townhouse units, the building’s main residential entrance along Parkdale Avenue, and retail/commercial space at the corner of Parkdale and Lyndale Avenues. The townhouse units will have direct access to Parkdale Avenue ensuring that both frontages maintain an active and animated street front.

Vehicular access to the site will be provided at the edge of the property adjacent to the existing City-owned laneway, ensuring that the pedestrian experience around the building and landscaping is uninterrupted. A driveway at the northeast corner of the subject property connects the City-owned laneway to an underground parking garage. The underground parking garage, which will consist of five (5) levels, will provide 40 parking spaces for visitors and for the ground-floor commercial use, and 127 parking spaces for residents, for a total of 167 parking spaces.

The underground parking garage will also accommodate 142 bicycle parking spaces and a bicycle repair station, mechanical equipment, and 82 storage lockers. 108 additional storage lockers will be located on the building’s second storey. It should be noted that a significant amount of additional, secure bicycle parking can be accommodated by the above-noted 190 storage lockers.

Vehicular access to, and egress from, the subject property is also proposed to be provided in the form of a one-way, sheltered drop-off and pickup area with a direct connection to the ground floor lobby, in the southeast corner of the subject property. The drop-off and pickup area will also be accessed via the rear, City-owned laneway to the east, and will egress directly onto Lyndale Avenue to the south.

Architect: TACT Architecture

Development application:
https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...2-0133/details

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Siteplan:

Renderings:

McKellarDweller · #74 Posted **Aug 11, 2020, 12:25 PM**

Thanks, Rocketphish!

It looks great. I'm really digging the setbacks, and articulations in the massing. We need more buildings like this, and fewer rectangular blocks with uniform strips of balconies around town.

J.OT13 · #75 Posted **Aug 11, 2020, 12:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by kevinbottawa

TACT Architecture does some good work. Here's a Dymon Storage they designed near Yorkdale in Toronto.

A quick look through their portfolio, it seems they've designed two buildings in Ottawa: Minto at Beachwood and Bank Street at 5th Avenue.

I wouldn't mind seeing some of their Dymon Storage buildings here. They look better than most new condo towers.

J.OT13 · #76 Posted **Aug 11, 2020, 12:40 PM**

Love this one. Only complaints; pretty much the same height as Apogee, and the treatment of the mechanical penthouse, though with good lighting, it might not be too bad.

Great to see far fewer parking spots than units and bike spaces. A retail unit, even a small one on the corner, can go along way in improving street presence. Overall great design.