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Originally Posted by The North One
Nobody is overlooking anything except maybe EV enthusiasts. Obviously the auto industry is subsidized. And everybody got a bailout in 2008. The whole economic system of the country was collapsing.
But at least ICE vehicles ya know, make money. And have for over a hundred years. Also they don't require insanely environmentally destructive and exploitive cobalt mining, which is also a scarce metal. The battery thing will always be an issue unless there's some technological miracle. Not to mention issues with the grid to power it all.
Even disregarding all these things. Where do you think the electricity to run these cars comes from? Vast majority of it in the US is fossil fuels.
I'm not exactly against EVs but the hype is obviously bullshit.
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i addressed these points in posts above.
LFP batteries have no cobalt. the tesla 3/Y standard range, new models from hyundai, polestar, etc - use LFP batteries. pretty much everything made in china is using LFP batteries now. did you know that oil refining also requires the use of cobalt?
in 2023, 19% of the energy on the US grid came from nuclear. (before vogtle 3/4 came online, which added another 2.2GWh) another 20% came from solar+wind+hydroelectric+geothermal. with the growth of renewables,
i would guess about 45% of all power on the grid comes from non-fossil fuel sources in 2024, based on the data from 2023 (where it was about 40%) and general news about large scale solar and wind projects. and that figure is only going to keep rising.
most of the 'fossil fuels' burned are natural gas, which is cleaner than burning gasoline in car engines or coal. coal is on the way out.
your assumptions are out of date.