Federal Government & Politics II

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Genocide? Is it Israel that calls for “from the river to the sea, Israel will be free”?

Disgusting and completely uneducated uninformed people claiming what happened in Gaza a genocide. Fucking try claiming this as genocide to a Jew…. More people had died in London during Nazi air raids on everything civilian infrastructure, anyone claim that the Brits were facing a genocide.

This sickening post is beneath a counter argument.

[Hecate]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

You and YOWital responded to Molson using the example of his Muslim neighbours being murdered by a White Supremacist as proof of Islamophobia in this country, by denying that it happens and whatabouting with examples of hate crimes that were not nearly as severe. If you want to start a pissing match over who is being more oppressed then come with examples that are at least equivalent. A man being punched is a far cry from an entire family being murdered in a historic hate crime. Have you also forgotten about the Quebec mosque shooting?

Anti semitism is vile and wrong, but it should never be used to deny the existence of equally vile and horrid Islamophobia. It should also not be used as a distraction from the war crimes that Israel is committing daily in Gaza.

Ummm anyone who brings Islamophobia into a conversation about antisemitism being dished out by predominantly Muslim people doesn’t get to pull the whataboutism card.

Again over 50% of reported hate crimes in Canada are against Jews.

And seriously, Israel has every right to defend its people and do everything it can to help them. NO ONE LEFT BEHIND. Israel was built on that philosophy and they didn’t start this shit show. No matter how much you distort history. Israel is their indigenous homeland. Just like I live in treaty one. It’s the traditional lands of the indigenous people here before me.

“We can forgive arabs for killing our children, we cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children.” - Golda Meir

[Hecate]

And it is not a genocide, it’s a rescue mission. Israel has said many times. Return the hostages and they will cease. Yet they refuse.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Ummm anyone who brings Islamophobia into a conversation about antisemitism being dished out by predominantly Muslim people doesn’t get to pull the whataboutism card.

Again over 50% of reported hate crimes in Canada are against Jews.

And seriously, Israel has every right to defend its people and do everything it can to help them. NO ONE LEFT BEHIND. Israel was built on that philosophy and they didn’t start this shit show. No matter how much you distort history. Israel is their indigenous homeland. Just like I live in treaty one. It’s the traditional lands of the indigenous people here before me.

“We can forgive arabs for killing our children, we cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children.” - Golda Meir

Can you please provide sources showing most Canadian hate crimes against Jews come from Muslims? Cause the terrorist attack that occurred in London and the Mosque shooting that happened in Quebec were both White Supremacist nutjobs. In fact most domestic terrorism here is from Alt Right White Supremacist nutjobs.

As for the rest of your Disney, Intelligent Design, Creationist, Zionist settler propaganda history of the foundation of the current state of Israel I think you are the one revising history and ignoring the source of tension between Palestinians and Israelis through selective amnesia.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

Right. Good catch. Surely you agree though that is in response to the original saying, which implies Israel is to be wiped out??

Originally Posted by O-tacular

This sickening post is beneath a counter argument.

This sickening post? You claim Gaza is a genocide. That in itself is sickening.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Hecate

And it is not a genocide, it’s a rescue mission. Israel has said many times. Return the hostages and they will cease. Yet they refuse.

False. Israel has stated they will not stop until they destroy all of Hamas. This goal is unachievable and has been discredited by the US and other allies.

[Wigs]

Next time there's a school shooting in America they should blow up the entire school as the "rescue mission"

Seems like the best way forward. After all the shooter was using the elementary school kids as "human shields" and the SWAT team can't be held responsible for a high rate of deaths. What's a few hundred kids if you eliminate the shooter. Just collateral damage, man

[Hackslack]

A real swing and a miss with that analogy!!… faaaaacccckkkk

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by Hecate

Israel has said many time it will not stop until all the hostages are recovered. No one left behind. What exactly have the Palestinians done to speed this process up?

I think you're confusing IDF with the US military.

Read up on Hannibal Directive
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[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Right. Good catch. Surely you agree though that is in response to the original saying, which implies Israel is to be wiped out??

This has been stated by Israeli cabinet ministers as well. This post was Bibi’s son. A loser who somehow escaped conscription into the IDF for this siege and lives in Miami.

This sickening post? You claim Gaza is a genocide. That in itself is sickening.

Your London example is stupid and makes no sense. It also doesn’t help your argument as the ones bombing the UK were bloody Nazis! You know, the ones who genocided the Jews and forced the UK into WW2 by trying to conquer all of Europe.

The fact you find it disgusting that I oppose the bombing, starvation and killing of close to 15,000 Gazan children speaks volumes about you.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

A real swing and a miss with that analogy!!… faaaaacccckkkk

Agreed, it's not like the school elected the shooter.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

This has been stated by Israeli cabinet ministers as well. This post was Bibi’s son. A loser who somehow escaped conscription into the IDF for this siege and lives in Miami.




Your London example is stupid and makes no sense. It also doesn’t help your argument as the ones bombing the UK were bloody Nazis! You know, the ones who genocided the Jews and forced the UK into WW2 by trying to conquer all of Europe.

The fact you find it disgusting that I oppose the bombing, starvation and killing of close to 15,000 Gazan children speaks volumes about you.

Nooooo no no no…. the fact that you falsely claim genocide in Gaza is what I find disgusting. The fact that you demonize Israel and Jews for defending itself is what I find disgusting, the fact that you purportedly keep claiming Israel intentionally bombs schools and daycares and hospitals with no regard for innocent life is what I find disgusting, the fact that you cannot wrap your head around the reasons why Israel is defending itself and fighting for innocent hostages that were taken the same day that over a thousand people were slaughtered, raped, babies slaughtered… is what I find disgusting about you.

[urbandreamer]

It's clear that neither Israelis nor Palestinians are a civilized people. Imagine the British had completely flattened Belfast in response to the IRA terrorist attacks in London 25-30 years ago! Did the US completely level UAE, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and Egypt after 911?


I always ask the other side:

What would you do if you lived in _____?

All war is wrong. It's interesting that just as the real estate market slows down, countries are actively using their military to decrease supply of affordable housing.

[Wigs]

Read what Jewish Israeli academics are now saying. From a Holocaust and genocide scholar, professor of Jewish Studies and Contemporary Jewry at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

It's in Hebrew online magazine 'Local Call' but Google can auto translate to English

https://www.mekomit.co.il/ps/134005/

On that note, have a good night everyone and rest of your weekend. Thankful that we're all alive and live in Canada.

[O-tacular]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Read what Jewish Israeli academics are now saying. From a Holocaust and genocide scholar, professor of Jewish Studies and Modern Jewry at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

It's in Hebrew online magazine 'Local Call' but Google can auto translate to English

https://www.mekomit.co.il/ps/134005/

On that note, have a good night everyone and rest of your weekend. Thankful that we're all alive and live in Canada.

Sounds like an anti-semitic hate monger who laughed at the civilian deaths after the Hamas attack. There’s no room for criticism of Israel’s response or any mercy. Hamas attacked therefore Israel can bomb and starve as many children as they like. Hamas started it and was elected by those dead babies! You hate monger!

[urbandreamer]

I can believe that Palestinians and Israelis share similar DNA: they both behave like Biblical savages.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by urbandreamer

It's clear that neither Israelis nor Palestinians are a civilized people. Imagine the British had completely flattened Belfast in response to the IRA terrorist attacks in London 25-30 years ago! Did the US completely level UAE, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and Egypt after 911?


I always ask the other side:

What would you do if you lived in _____?

All war is wrong. It's interesting that just as the real estate market slows down, countries are actively using their military to decrease supply of affordable housing.

What does civilized mean? All of those examples are a bit spurious on both sides. The IRA killed 500 civilans. Mostly in Northern Ireland over 30 or 40 years. If they killed 1200 people in London in one day you better believe they would have gone into Belfast and if house by house there was resistance of course much of it would have been leveled.

9.11 was one attack and US actions led to possibly millions of deaths. And there was no actual declared enemy they could attack other than Bin Laden and a small group around him.

[urbandreamer]

The English, being civilized, didn't kill 100,000 IRA and their families in response to the 500 deaths!? I mean how can you separate an IRA member from his cousins club?

[Hackslack]

Release the hostages.

Stop hiding behind women and children while using civilian infrastructure for military operations.

[urbandreamer]

What infrastructure? It's all been destroyed. Where would you run your operations from if you lived in a tiny country like Gaza, what used to be one of the densest places on earth?