YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Chikinlittle]

http://www.travelpress.com/air-canada-making-the-shift/#.VeiN17Ren_R

[Gordon]

would these likely be yvr or YYZ routes?

[Chikinlittle]

Originally Posted by Gordon

would these likely be yvr or YYZ routes?

YYZ-SIN would become the longest flight in the world by ~800 nautical miles.

So, if they intend for them to be non-stop flights from Canada, YVR would be the gateway.

Or perhaps they intend to have an enroute stop in NRT or HKG, or use an Asian city as a mini-hub.

[casper]

Originally Posted by Chikinlittle

YYZ-SIN would become the longest flight in the world by ~800 nautical miles.

So, if they intend for them to be non-stop flights from Canada, YVR would be the gateway.

Or perhaps they intend to have an enroute stop in NRT or HKG, or use an Asian city as a mini-hub.

When Singapore Airlines operated YVR-SIN they stopped in Soule, South Korea.

YYZ is not at all likely. What may make sense is NRT if they can time it to have good connections on the YVR, YYZ and YYC flights.

[craneSpotter]

Well, this would be cool to see at YVR:


airlinersgallery.com

Apparently YVR is on their radar for seasonal charters Sorry if this has been posted already...

http://fijisun.com.fj/2015/08/26/analysis-singapore-china-for-fiji-airways/

[nname]

Fiji Airway (Air Pacific) used to serve YVR via HNL I believe.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by nname

Fiji Airway (Air Pacific) used to serve YVR via HNL I believe.

Yes sir.

Air Pacific used to fly twice weekly YVR-HNL-NAN.

Fiji Airways is their new branding.

They look fantastic.

That would be a nice addition to the growing list of airlines at YVR....

[Klazu]

I would love to visit Fiji, so I like the sound of that news.

[Johnny Aussie]

AC is doing a fantastic job of filling the additional capacity they are adding.

http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=916

Looking at Asia/Pacific specifically... 92.7% of seats filled.... the market has more than absorbed the 11% additional capacity added. The Pacific region had the highest LF and also the highest growth in LF.

A lot of this capacity was added at YVR with its increase in capacity on all former 763 routes becoming 788 routes plus the addition of KIX.

Of course, this includes all Asian routes including YYZ but with most Asian routes ex YYZ and YVR this suggests YVR routes are doing very well for AC, at least from a load factor perspective. I have also heard this from various sources anyway but seeing the hard numbers is a good sign.

Perhaps YVR will actually see some of these additional flights that are being suggested by AC.

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

AC is doing a fantastic job of filling the additional capacity they are adding.

http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=916

Looking at Asia/Pacific specifically... 92.7% of seats filled.... the market has more than absorbed the 11% additional capacity added. The Pacific region had the highest LF and also the highest growth in LF.

A lot of this capacity was added at YVR with its increase in capacity on all former 763 routes becoming 788 routes plus the addition of KIX.

Of course, this includes all Asian routes including YYZ but with most Asian routes ex YYZ and YVR this suggests YVR routes are doing very well for AC, at least from a load factor perspective. I have also heard this from various sources anyway but seeing the hard numbers is a good sign.

Perhaps YVR will actually see some of these additional flights that are being suggested by AC.

That is great news about the quick absorption of AC's additional YVR-based transpacific capacity.

I have to say that Air Canada seems to have turned something of a corner. I have had good in-flight experiences with them lately, their international prices are competitive and sometimes cheaper, and they are investing in improving their in-flight product (at a loss of personal space, though) and new aircraft. They're winding down their use of Embraer E-Jets, which I don't like that much in favour of more A320s and, by decade's end, Boeing 737s (the new Max variant?). I have never had an issue with lost bags with AC, nor have I been on an over-sold flight and been bumped. Plus they upgraded me to business class on my most recent flight, which was nice!

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

That is great news about the quick absorption of AC's additional YVR-based transpacific capacity.

I have to say that Air Canada seems to have turned something of a corner. I have had good in-flight experiences with them lately, their international prices are competitive and sometimes cheaper, and they are investing in improving their in-flight product (at a loss of personal space, though) and new aircraft. They're winding down their use of Embraer E-Jets, which I don't like that much in favour of more A320s and, by decade's end, Boeing 737s (the new Max variant?). I have never had an issue with lost bags with AC, nor have I been on an over-sold flight and been bumped. Plus they upgraded me to business class on my most recent flight, which was nice!

Somehow the prospect of a Toronto - Jo'burg route rounds out the picture for me; symbolic of a real, big-time, global airline.

[CareerShow]

This is slightly off topic but do airlines still allow passengers to visit the flight deck during flights? It would appear some do based off some photos you see of the flight deck during the flight.

[excel]

No they do not. Those pictures would be from someone authorized to fly in the jump seat. Usually another pilot or employee of the airline.

[Johnny Aussie]

LAX: now increased to three daily (up from 19 weekly last winter) morning flight remains a daily 763 the other two daily on 319s

LAS: the five weekly morning flights now all 763. last winter only 3 per week on the 763. The daily afternoon flight remains a 319.

So with the other increases to PSP, HNL, OGG and KOA.... the winter rouge transborder operation will increase from 77 flights per week to 86 flights per week. 763 action increases from 25 to 32 weekly.

Thursdays to Sundays mornings YVR will have three 763s parked next to each other at the Transborder gates... Should look nice and purdy.

Oh... And sorry folks!! Still no flights to San Diego, Baton Rouge or Cedar Rapids! Perhaps we may see flights to SAN in the next couple of years again but the other two are less likely.

And the current tally taking into all the ups and downs and ins and outs... Transborder is showing about 70 daily flights for the winter scheds. I realise adjustments are made all the time but that's where we sit today.
Also, larger aircraft on some routes and more mainline showing at the moment too.

Soooooo.... until the next adjustment....

[trofirhen]

Long ago, when Frontier Airlines served YVR, there was a flight to Spokane that continued on to Denver and ended up in Shreveport, Louisiana. The days of past glory !!!

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

LAX: now increased to three daily (up from 19 weekly last winter) morning flight remains a daily 763 the other two daily on 319s

LAS: the five weekly morning flights now all 763. last winter only 3 per week on the 763. The daily afternoon flight remains a 319.

So with the other increases to PSP, HNL, OGG and KOA.... the winter rouge transborder operation will increase from 77 flights per week to 86 flights per week. 763 action increases from 25 to 32 weekly.

Thursdays to Sundays mornings YVR will have three 763s parked next to each other at the Transborder gates... Should look nice and purdy.

Oh... And sorry folks!! Still no flights to San Diego, Baton Rouge or Cedar Rapids! Perhaps we may see flights to SAN in the next couple of years again but the other two are less likely.

And the current tally taking into all the ups and downs and ins and outs... Transborder is showing about 70 daily flights for the winter scheds. I realise adjustments are made all the time but that's where we sit today.
Also, larger aircraft on some routes and more mainline showing at the moment too.

Soooooo.... until the next adjustment....

Thank you JohnnyAussie. Your updates are always greatly appreciated!

[Valley_Refugee]

Oh... And sorry folks!! Still no flights to San Diego, Baton Rouge or Cedar Rapids! Perhaps we may see flights to SAN in the next couple of years again but the other two are less likely.

YVR never will be a truly global hub until there's direct service to BTR and CID.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Valley_Refugee

YVR never will be a truly global hub until there's direct service to BTR and CID.

I thought CHA, GRU, and SCL would do us better.

[osirisboy]

Lol!! Valley refugee was being sarcastic

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

Lol!! Valley refugee was being sarcastic

Ummmm .... yes, I know !!!
(Actually, I was hoping for Tulsa, Akron, and Chattanooga) !!!!