Canada's 10 Tallest U/C - Page 393

WhipperSnapper · #**7841** Posted **Mar 30, 2022, 10:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

But I always find that the forumers and moderators over at UT know what they are talking about. They rarely post heights on mere speculation.

It's not speculation. It's a proposed height increase for a building that has already started construction at the approved height. Someone from outside of urbantoronto would not know this and would assume the 338 is a go. The height increase is referenced on the building's page https://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=105731 twice! LOL

Wigs · #**7842** Posted **Mar 31, 2022, 12:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by craner

Wrapped in black like that with the green TD logo it looks like it could be another addition to Mies’ TD Centre.

Riiiight

How much office space does TD need?

Are they abandoning any office space such as in the awesome c. 1990 PoMo TD Canada Trust tower when this tower opens?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookfield_Place_(Toronto)

GeneralLea · #**7843** Posted **Mar 31, 2022, 1:28 AM**

That's one good looking building. I've been looking forward to seeing this corner redeveloped for a while, just based on it's location alone.

TorontoDrew · #**7844** Posted **Mar 31, 2022, 1:40 AM**

Well it seems at One Bloor West they are confident they will get the added height. They've updated all of their renders with the additional 6 floors. But they have yet to update the schematics of the structure on the site. If you look you can see they just copied and pasted the model of the six floors below to make the new renders. The units have the same floor plans and furniture. If the market can handle it I see no reason why they won't get the additional height. Maybe they will add it on at the end after Sky Tower tops out like the ESB did with it's spire after Chysler topped out.

travis3000 · #**7845** Posted **Mar 31, 2022, 2:56 AM**

As far as I know the height increase still subject to city approval. The vibes I've gotten so far aren't the most positive for the increase with the council basically saying they won't approve it.

WhipperSnapper · #**7846** Posted **Mar 31, 2022, 3:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by Wigs

Riiiight

How much office space does TD need?

Are they abandoning any office space such as in the awesome c. 1990 PoMo TD Canada Trust tower when this tower opens?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookfield_Place_(Toronto)

Don't know. CIBC is moving out of the tower.

craner · #**7847** Posted **Mar 31, 2022, 4:04 AM**

Remember when CIBC, The Bay & Manulife ruled Yonge & Bloor ?
Now they look downright stubby.

suburbanite · #**7848** Posted **Mar 31, 2022, 9:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by Wigs

Riiiight

How much office space does TD need?

Are they abandoning any office space such as in the awesome c. 1990 PoMo TD Canada Trust tower when this tower opens?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookfield_Place_(Toronto)

TD hasn't had a significant presence there in years. They are consolidating some space in the new tower but still retaining a fair bit in TD Centre.

TorontoDrew · #**7849** Posted **Mar 31, 2022, 2:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by travis3000

As far as I know the height increase still subject to city approval. The vibes I've gotten so far aren't the most positive for the increase with the council basically saying they won't approve it.

Who are the councilors at Yonge and Bloor? I think Kristen Wong_Tam is on the east side, is it Layton on the west? I don't know why those two are so anti-height along Yonge. They should worry more about the aesthetics then they do on meters. 6 more floors at One Bloor East is not going to add a lot of densityto the area. This units will be large and most likely will be owned by rich empty nesters, or rich couples or singles with no kids. If you're wealthy with a family there are much better options near by. Another 6 floors would probably only add another 24-30 people to the area, and that's being generous.

And Craner, ya I remember as a kid we would drive down Yonge and I always marveled how tall CIBC, The Bay, and Manulife looked as we passed by.

TorontoDrew · #**7850** Posted **Mar 31, 2022, 3:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by craner

Remember when CIBC, The Bay & Manulife ruled Yonge & Bloor ?
Now they look downright stubby.

here is the Manulife Centre, The CIBC Tower, and the Bay Tower going up all at the same time.
1973
Source: Toronto Archives Library

A tight rope walker 1975 walking between the Bay and CIBC tower

And all three buildings mentioned.
1974

Here are two more of the buildings we spoke about. Some comedian named Marty Putz remained suspended between the two Towers as some sort of stunt.

WhipperSnapper · #**7851** Posted **Apr 1, 2022, 3:09 PM**

I'm hopeful any issues with the increase in square footage will relate to the visual & physical impact of 30 more metres on public space over the increased number of occupants. The floor space index does matter from a precedence setting point of view. It's not significant for one tower. It becomes significant over a dozen developments within a few block radius

Wigs · #**7852** Posted **Apr 1, 2022, 8:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Don't know. CIBC is moving out of the tower.

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Originally Posted by suburbanite

TD hasn't had a significant presence there in years. They are consolidating some space in the new tower but still retaining a fair bit in TD Centre.

Thanks for the info. Is TD Centre one of the original '60s Mies black skyscrapers?

WhipperSnapper · #**7853** Posted **Apr 1, 2022, 10:02 PM**

Yep. TD Bank set out to build a monumental head office in the early 1960s. The board hired Mies (who designed the 4 tower/ pavilion block) and partnered with developer, Fairview Corporation. I'm going to assume they sold their property stake in the 1990s like so many others did.

There were several major bank mergers in the 1960s which aided in wanting to build these landmarks.

caltrane74 · #**7854** Posted **Apr 6, 2022, 3:33 PM**

Glad to see we got some office construction out of this boom, but not exactly what we wanted. - CIBC Plaza, and 160 Front / TD Bank are good/ok, but the other stuff kinda banal.

TorontoDrew · #**7855** Posted **Apr 6, 2022, 4:09 PM**

The One has finally broken free of non repeating floors so things may start to move a bit faster now as the floorplates are more of a copy and paste scenario.

Posted by: thaivic on urbantoronto.ca

Nouvellecosse · #**7856** Posted **Apr 6, 2022, 5:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

Glad to see we got some office construction out of this boom, but not exactly what we wanted. - CIBC Plaza, and 160 Front / TD Bank are good/ok, but the other stuff kinda banal.

Oh well at least we got rid off all the remaining gaps. Omg those vids were so hilarious. Effin' huneeez!

Wigs · #**7857** Posted **Apr 6, 2022, 8:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Yep. TD Bank set out to build a monumental head office in the early 1960s. The board hired Mies (who designed the 4 tower/ pavilion block) and partnered with developer, Fairview Corporation. I'm going to assume they sold their property stake in the 1990s like so many others did.

There were several major bank mergers in the 1960s which aided in wanting to build these landmarks.

Thanks for your reply

TorontoDrew · #**7858** Posted **Apr 14, 2022, 3:30 PM**

Lots going on over at CIBC Square Tower 2. 780 ft / 237.73 m

Posted by Red Mars
on urbantoronto.ca

TorontoDrew · #**7859** Posted **Apr 14, 2022, 3:49 PM**

160 Front Street
787 ft / 239.87 m

Photos by : Rascacielo
Posted on urbantoronto.ca

The Intercontinental Hotel is looking really shabby. I'm not sure what could be done to update it without it being covered in glass which we don't need anymore of. This could be a fun design challenge for us.

WhipperSnapper · #**7860** Posted **Apr 14, 2022, 3:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wigs

Thanks for your reply

I don't know the reason. I assume the bank mergers in the 1960s allowed Toronto based banks to directly compete with the larger Montreal banks. That would have a profound impact on the development of Bay Street as the country's premier financial services street if I'm right. (more than the often cited Toronto taking advantage of Montreal language politics)