Canadian Retail Thread - Page 392

MonctonRad · #**7821** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 11:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by le calmar

Unless you’re not comfortable with the idea of having your credit card info on your phone at all.

Well, you know, Bill Gates and his nanobots, trackers and mind control devices etc.................

esquire · #**7822** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 2:35 PM**

How many consumer brands have to pull out of Canada before we start to consider it a marker of decline?

Kleenex maker says famous tissues to be wiped out of Canada soon, citing 'unique complexities'

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The move makes Kleenex just the latest in a long line of well-known consumer products to pull out of Canada in recent years, including Bugles snack chips, Skippy peanut butter and Delissio frozen pizza.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kle...nada-1.6947410

kwoldtimer · #**7823** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 2:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

How many consumer brands have to pull out of Canada before we start to consider it a marker of decline?

Kleenex maker says famous tissues to be wiped out of Canada soon, citing 'unique complexities'

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kle...nada-1.6947410

Not easy to be a "premium" tissue brand in the current market, one would think.

Acajack · #**7824** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 2:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

How many consumer brands have to pull out of Canada before we start to consider it a marker of decline?

Kleenex maker says famous tissues to be wiped out of Canada soon, citing 'unique complexities'

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kle...nada-1.6947410

This could be a noteworthy trend.

I remember as a kid there was a lot of stuff we'd see on US TV that wasn't available in Canada.

While free trade (late 1980s) didn't bring every single US product to Canada, it did bring a noticeable change where it seemed like most of the same stuff was now available here.

J.OT13 · #**7825** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 3:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

How many consumer brands have to pull out of Canada before we start to consider it a marker of decline?

Kleenex maker says famous tissues to be wiped out of Canada soon, citing 'unique complexities'

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kle...nada-1.6947410

Meh.We're a Scotties family anyway.

esquire · #**7826** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 3:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

This could be a noteworthy trend.

I remember as a kid there was a lot of stuff we'd see on US TV that wasn't available in Canada.

While free trade (late 1980s) didn't bring every single US product to Canada, it did bring a noticeable change where it seemed like most of the same stuff was now available here.

It feels like the presence of US consumer brands peaked around the time of Target (not coincidentally the last time the CAD was roughly at par with the USD) but since then it has been reversing somewhat.

Not the be all and end all of course, but it does not seem like a positive trend that these companies are dialing back their Canadian presence.

jonny24 · #**7827** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 3:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Loco101

No, I'd rather have to drive to the store, wait in line, wait awhile and then find out that the item is not in stock. Time well spent!

Most online retailers even tell you how much stock they have for each item. Sure some people like to see items in person but that costs the retailer a lot and leads to higher prices.

Even better is when you check inventory online, go to that specific store, can't find the item, ask them to get it for you, only to be told that they don't have and the inventories aren't that accurate anyway

Damn near lost it in a Canadian Tire because of that. It was 8:30 at night, I only had time to get to one store before they all closed, and I drove to that one specifically.

WhipperSnapper · #**7828** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 3:43 PM**

I went through a phase watching retro 1980s game show in part to the number of products from my childhood that are no longer sold.

J.OT13 · #**7829** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 4:01 PM**

Do we know what's causing this trend of U.S. producers pulling out of Canada?

I mostly don't care so far (Coca-Cola better not leave Canada

), but I do worry it may drive prices up due to the lack of competition.

Changing City · #**7830** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 4:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

Meh.We're a Scotties family anyway.

Scott paper, like Kleenex, is owned by Kimberley Clark, so all that's disappearing is the (generally more expensive) brand.

acottawa · #**7831** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 4:15 PM**

I wonder if it is people favouring Canadian made products? Most of the more famous exits in recent years (Nestle pizza, skippy peanut butter and now Kleenex) have an obvious competitor with a big “made in Canada” logo on the package.

acottawa · #**7832** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 4:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Changing City

Scott paper, like Kleenex, is owned by Kimberley Clark, so all that's disappearing is the (generally more expensive) brand.

Scotties is currently owned by Kruger in Canada.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotties

WhipperSnapper · #**7833** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 4:31 PM**

There's been numerous plant closures in the GTA as companies merge and/or consolidate operations. The Canadian market may not be a lucrative a market for these multi-national. There's also the occasional winfall selling the property to a developer for $100 of millions.

I think there's a growing trend for artisan or boutique products as prices have risen closer to parity. A frozen pre-package medium pizza is now averaging $7. The not much smaller, made to order, stone oven bake pizza at my pub is $9. Esty.

esquire · #**7834** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 4:56 PM**

^ Who in their right mind would buy a frozen pizza for $7 when Little Caesar's exists? I get that Little Caesar's is not exactly Michelin star gastronomy, but it is when you compare it to any frozen pizza that I have ever had. I'm sure other local pizza joints have similar deals.

acottawa · #**7835** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 6:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ Who in their right mind would buy a frozen pizza for $7 when Little Caesar's exists? I get that Little Caesar's is not exactly Michelin star gastronomy, but it is when you compare it to any frozen pizza that I have ever had. I'm sure other local pizza joints have similar deals.

Frozen pizza is tax exempt and doesn’t expect a tip.

esquire · #**7836** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 6:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by acottawa

Frozen pizza is tax exempt and doesn’t expect a tip.

I pick up the Little Caesar's as a treat for my kids on my way home and never tipped once!

Wigs · #**7837** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 6:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ Who in their right mind would buy a frozen pizza for $7 when Little Caesar's exists? I get that Little Caesar's is not exactly Michelin star gastronomy, but it is when you compare it to any frozen pizza that I have ever had. I'm sure other local pizza joints have similar deals.

I may serve my kids junk pizza while my wife and I get high quality ethnic cuisine, but at least it's Hot n Ready junk pizza

esquire, I just like to poke some fun at ya.
I've had my share of Little Caesars, Domino's, and Pizza Hut in my life.

esquire · #**7838** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 6:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wigs

I may serve my kids junk pizza while my wife and I get high quality ethnic cuisine, but at least it's Hot n Ready junk pizza

esquire, I just like to poke some fun at ya.
I've had my share of Little Caesars, Domino's, and Pizza Hut in my life.

LOL I thought you might have something to say about it

I am not too proud to admit that I help myself to the leftovers of the kids' Hot n Ready pepperoni!

Acajack · #**7839** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 6:44 PM**

Isn't frozen pizza bought in a grocery store taxable anyway, since it's food that's been prepared, processed or transformed? Perhaps it depends on the province though.

(I thought it was only stuff like milk, fruits and vegetables, etc. that wasn't taxable.)

Djeffery · #**7840** Posted **Aug 25, 2023, 7:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Isn't frozen pizza bought in a grocery store taxable anyway, since it's food that's been prepared, processed or transformed? Perhaps it depends on the province though.

(I thought it was only stuff like milk, fruits and vegetables, etc. that wasn't taxable.)

I would have to check our grocery bill this weekend to see again but I think the frozen stuff is tax free because you still have to cook it. A store like Loblaws or Metro that actually sells hot pizza at the counter, that I think is taxed if it's over $4 or something like that.

As for frozen over Little Caesars, I'm not a fan of frozen pizza anyway but the locally made Dr Oetker ones are pretty damn good, especially compared to the bottom of the barrel LC. But I would still pay more for a pizza made by a local store over either of those options. My daughter is coming home for a few days and likes the Dr Oetker, which is why we are buying 1 this week with our groceries.