Urban living in Edmonton

[Coldrsx]

Reference ID: Job No 460104106-002
Description: To Increase the number of children in a Childcare Service from 56 to 64
Location: 10215 - 108 STREET NW
Plan 1520896 Blk 7 Lot 103A
Applicant: Intercultural Child and Family Centre, JASVINDER
Status: In Development Review
Create Date: 1/10/2023 7:55:21 AM
Neighbourhood: DOWNTOWN

[Coldrsx]

Concept for an infill design comp, but damn, BUILD THIS!






https://www.nextarchitecture.ca/work/missing-middle

[Coldrsx]

Lost for words continues to be a theme for me.

1200sqft, concrete construction, 2bdrm + 2bath for $199,999.00 in the Downtown of a major city steps from the river valley, 3 blocks from LRT.

*dated, but very livable, rental, investable.

https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/25219440/304-9707-105-st-nw-edmonton-downtownedmo

[Slide]

the condo fee is eye popping, even if it does include heat and water.

[Coldrsx]

Not really; it's a large unit.

Most 'quality' or amenity rich buildings are going to be $.40-.50/sqft or $400-500/1000sqft when new. Responsible boards should raise fees by inflation +1-2%/yr (rule of thumb) and that builds over each and every year and so a building from the 90s or early 2000s will have higher fees.

This also assumes near or full funding of their Reserve Fund based on their 5yr (mandated) study, but usually is underfunded and with deferred maintenance.

[Base]

I understand the condo fees but it does give you an idea of why the price is so cheap. If you put 5% down looking at about $1150/month on a mortgage + $715 in condo fees you can rent a much nicer, updated, & better located place of similar size.

[JSS1974]

Originally Posted by Base

I understand the condo fees but it does give you an idea of why the price is so cheap. If you put 5% down looking at about $1150/month on a mortgage + $715 in condo fees you can rent a much nicer, updated, & better located place of similar size.

Condo purchase = money pit
As the condo fees rise, the value of the condo typically drops
At some point, long down the future, the condo fee can be more than the mortgage itself

[Coldrsx]

Urban Land Institute - Edmonton

Here are some ideas on how we might prepare our cities for the next frontier:

Making our region affordable.
Making places of work a meaningful amenity.
Making public infrastructure efficient.
Making our downtown safe and clean.
Making city building an ongoing priority.

https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-how-to-prepare-edmonton-for-the-future

[feepa]

^ space, the final frontier?

What is 'the next frontier'? in respect to the above post?

[feepa]

"Making our region affordable. To ensure our region remains an attractive place for people to migrate to from across Canada and around the world, we will need to keep housing costs low and non-residential development opportunities plentiful. Municipalities can contribute to this outcome by opening up more land for development and providing a clear and predictable picture of development requirements, timelines, and costs. "

So more sprawl? err Smart Growth? That's what the region needs?

[Coldrsx]

Alcohol to be allowed in some parks on a permanent basis.

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-n...s-alcohol-in-some-park-sites-permanently

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Rice and Principe voted against citing safety concerns and social disorder and yet the reports indicate an overall positive experience.

“We have not seen any issues. People are well-behaved when they are using picnic sites and it allows people the opportunity to connect with friends and families, particularly those who don’t have a backyard.”

So, your report/data says one thing and yet you still vote against and disagree? Are they representing their ward or themselves?

Interesting.

[feepa]

Rice and Principe are two of the most useless councilors ever.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by feepa

Rice and Principe are two of the most useless councilors ever.

Agreed

[Hallsy's Toupee]

I really can't see Rice lasting for more than one term. Principe may get by with just her name recognition since her hubby is part of the Oilers media.

[Coldrsx]

https://www.edmonton.ca/public-files/assets/document?path=Downtown_Forecasts.pdf

[EdmTrekker]

The report data was prepared in 2009 and published in 2010 - 13 years ago. Why not look at the latest StatsCan numbers for Edmonton? Lots of ways including by census track # and postal code which is not as accurate like below T5K and T5J

T5K 22,440
T5J 6,288


https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recen...ENDERlist=1&STATISTIClist=1&HEADERlist=0

https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recen...ist=2021A00054811061&SearchText=edmonton

https://postal-codes.cybo.com/canada/edmonton/

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by EdmTrekker

The report data was prepared in 2009 and published in 2010 - 13 years ago. Why not look at the latest StatsCan numbers for Edmonton? Lots of ways including by census track # and postal code which is not as accurate like below T5K and T5J

T5K 22,440
T5J 6,288


https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recen...ENDERlist=1&STATISTIClist=1&HEADERlist=0

https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recen...ist=2021A00054811061&SearchText=edmonton

https://postal-codes.cybo.com/canada/edmonton/

lol yup, those graphs/charts also projected the City to pass 1 million population in 2029, but that happened last year, 2022, a full 7 years earlier than was projected. That data is BADLY out of date.

[Edmontonguy]

Just attended a party at a brand new suburban Edmonton home. Here's my question:

Why does the city continiously approve suburban neighbourhood plans that are completely vehicle-dependant, while at the same time lambast people for driving or relying on their cars?

The way this neighbourhood is designed doesn't make transit feasible. There are bike lames, but it doesn't integrate well. The nearby retail/ services centre is best reached by vehicle, instead of walking, biking or transit.

The city approved this; a neighbourhood plan that's not condusive to taking 'urban' forms of transport. and then they wonder why people stick to their cars! Until these neighbourhood designs change, people will see driving as their best alternative.

[snowman123]

Originally Posted by Edmontonguy

Just attended a party at a brand new suburban Edmonton home. Here's my question:

Why does the city continiously approve suburban neighbourhood plans that are completely vehicle-dependant, while at the same time lambast people for driving or relying on their cars?

The way this neighbourhood is designed doesn't make transit feasible. There are bike lames, but it doesn't integrate well. The nearby retail/ services centre is best reached by vehicle, instead of walking, biking or transit.

The city approved this; a neighbourhood plan that's not condusive to taking 'urban' forms of transport. and then they wonder why people stick to their cars! Until these neighbourhood designs change, people will see driving as their best alternative.

Interesting questions, politicians say things to get elected, ie, talk out of both sides of their mouths. Let's be a 15 min city ( whatever that means), let's rip up road for bike lanes, but, in the meantime approve developments that are miles away from transit.

It's our fault too, we are not keeping our elected representatives under control. I love the old style streets and aves, numbered and such. In the newer areas, it's all loopey-doopey and names. Why, and which candidates ran on changing our grid system. I do not remember any candidate saying that.

[canucklehead2]

Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too. And in theory there's enough space for all types of housing and lifestyles. But we all know at the end of the day who is financing our politicians and why some projects are prioritized while others fall into the abyss. Ban corporate and yes even union donations over a very small fixed amount and you might see some progress... Maaaaaybe.