[Halifax] Citadel Halifax Redevelopment | 3X49 m | 18-16-16 fl | Completed

[scryer]

It definitely looks good!

[Jonovision]

I know which unit I want!


Those windows are huge. They have to be at least 10 feet tall if not bigger.

[Duff]

One from today. The hotels must be very close to opening. I could see furniture in a lot of the units.

[Jonovision]

The apartment building will be called 19twenty and will be owned by the same company that took over the 3 buildings across the street. The four buildings will now be known as Brunswick Heights.

Here is the website for the new apartment building: http://vertica.ca/en/19twenty/building-and-amenities
There is a really great youtube video on the website showing what Brunswick Street will look like when everything is done on both sides of the street. Couldn't get it to embed on here though.
Here are some stills from it though

[mcmcclassic]

I like how the 2 bedroom units in this building are only about $200 more than Park Vic......

[Waye Mason]

Originally Posted by mcmcclassic

I like how the 2 bedroom units in this building are only about $200 more than Park Vic......

I expect market pressure to further drive down rents in older buildings over the next 18 months.

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by Waye Mason

I expect market pressure to further drive down rents in older buildings over the next 18 months.

That is possible. That will be good for people in lower income brackets and younger people just joining the work force. It will encourage even more people to live on the peninsula.

Over the next few years if the shipbuilding contract and offshore oil exploration pan out then the new units will be needed.

[terrynorthend]

Originally Posted by Waye Mason

I expect market pressure to further drive down rents in older buildings over the next 18 months.

Interesting. Over the past few days I've noticed CapReit push ads on my Facebook for The Welsford offering better rental prices + incentives (2 months free) than when I lived there 3 years ago.

[Keith P.]

It appears they intend to redevelop the street-level parts of the old MacKeen Towers into retail, and add a plaza at the pedway connection to Scotia Square. Anything they can do for the three older apartment blocks across the street would be a plus.

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by Jonovision

The apartment building will be called 19twenty and will be owned by the same company that took over the 3 buildings across the street. The four buildings will now be known as Brunswick Heights.

Here is the website for the new apartment building: http://vertica.ca/en/19twenty/building-and-amenities
There is a really great youtube video on the website showing what Brunswick Street will look like when everything is done on both sides of the street. Couldn't get it to embed on here though.
Here are some stills from it though

http://vertica.ca/files/styles/property_...ties/gallery/19twenty-Screencapture2.jpg

http://vertica.ca/files/styles/property_...ties/gallery/19twenty-Screencapture3.jpg

http://vertica.ca/files/styles/property_...ties/gallery/19twenty-Screencapture4.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UPIBauZHydQ

Thanks for posting this link. It is fascinating.

I was able to embed the video below.

• Video Link

[jslath]

Originally Posted by fenwick16

Thanks for posting this link. It is fascinating.

With all the plans for adding retail space in this area and renovations to Scotia Square, have any retailers been named?

[someone123]

Originally Posted by Waye Mason

I expect market pressure to further drive down rents in older buildings over the next 18 months.

Occasionally I see news articles complaining about this but it's actually a great thing for older properties to move downmarket. It's the same thing for office space; it's good for the top tenants to move to new buildings and leave cheaper office space behind them that then becomes available to the sorts of tenants who would otherwise go to the office parks. This is one of the ingredients that helps cities build up a good ecosystem of startups.

I like how there's a bit of higher-level thinking going on here about how to make this Brunswick Street neighbourhood more attractive. These apartment buildings don't exist in isolation. Their value depends on what's around them, and making the whole area a better place to be is good for everybody.

[worldlyhaligonian]

Originally Posted by someone123

Occasionally I see news articles complaining about this but it's actually a great thing for older properties to move downmarket.

Exactly, which is what I was trying to explain to that guy in the Avery forum.

Until recently, the rents or costs of a condo in old, taller, buildings were way to high as compared to the quality of the units.

The more affordable the old buildings become, the more people will move into them and fill the void left by those with more money to go into the new buildings.

[counterfactual]

Originally Posted by someone123

Occasionally I see news articles complaining about this but it's actually a great thing for older properties to move downmarket. It's the same thing for office space; it's good for the top tenants to move to new buildings and leave cheaper office space behind them that then becomes available to the sorts of tenants who would otherwise go to the office parks. This is one of the ingredients that helps cities build up a good ecosystem of startups.

I like how there's a bit of higher-level thinking going on here about how to make this Brunswick Street neighbourhood more attractive. These apartment buildings don't exist in isolation. Their value depends on what's around them, and making the whole area a better place to be is good for everybody.

Exactly! People are always complaining about the cost of rentals and office space downtown. Well, new spaces means more competition means lower pricing. A nice side effect of finally getting some proper development across the peninsula.

I love that video as well. Great to see a more unified vision for the area, especially if they attract an urban grocer. That will make the area even more attractive-- being able to walk to shop for groceries. Huge convenience and healthy benefit.

Thanks for embedding the vid, Keith.

[Drybrain]

Originally Posted by someone123

Occasionally I see news articles complaining about this but it's actually a great thing for older properties to move downmarket. It's the same thing for office space; it's good for the top tenants to move to new buildings and leave cheaper office space behind them that then becomes available to the sorts of tenants who would otherwise go to the office parks. This is one of the ingredients that helps cities build up a good ecosystem of startups.

Exactly. That's basic dynamic urbanism--that's why healthy cities need old and new buildings. The folks who want to bulldoze old "eyesores" don't get that, and neither do the uber-NIMBYs who want to kibosh any significant new construction. Seems like every city has a contingent of both. Maybe it's the push and pull between them that keeps cities at some reasonable equilibrium between the two.

[OldDartmouthMark]

I think this is the best thing that could have happened to that stretch of road. For years it was a place to pass through on your way to somewhere else, but now it will be a destination, which will be great for both those who live there and those who will come from other areas to visit the shops, restaurants, etc, or even just to walk around.

I think it will also help serve as a link to the north-downtown especially once Cogswell is reconfigured.

Good show!

[halifaxboyns]

One of things we're trying to do more of out here in Calgary is recognizing that knocking everything down isn't always the best way forward - sometimes the existing buildings can be converted to other things. Adaptive re-use is becoming a key principle of building design and approach more and more for new buildings.

It's good to see - Edmonton has a lot of reuse of old buildings. This building is a flat iron building that used to be offices which is now Lofts. This building was a warehouse that turned into lofts as well - there are several examples in Edmonton (not so many in Calgary).

This gives a variety of price points throughout an area (often higher for new Development; lower for renovation - although some conversions can be pricey too!) allowing all levels of residents to move in.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by halifaxboyns

One of things we're trying to do more of out here in Calgary is recognizing that knocking everything down isn't always the best way forward - sometimes the existing buildings can be converted to other things. Adaptive re-use is becoming a key principle of building design and approach more and more for new buildings.

It's good to see - Edmonton has a lot of reuse of old buildings. This building is a flat iron building that used to be offices which is now Lofts. This building was a warehouse that turned into lofts as well - there are several examples in Edmonton (not so many in Calgary).

This gives a variety of price points throughout an area (often higher for new Development; lower for renovation - although some conversions can be pricey too!) allowing all levels of residents to move in.

Great examples. I'd like to see more of this done around here, such as they did with Greenvale School (this project was actually the reason I joined this forum). It manages to preserve the outward heritage aspects of the building while giving it a vitality it otherwise wouldn't have had.

This will definitely be a boost for Brunswick St. and is nice to see.

[halifaxboyns]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

Great examples. I'd like to see more of this done around here, such as they did with Greenvale School (this project was actually the reason I joined this forum). It manages to preserve the outward heritage aspects of the building while giving it a vitality it otherwise wouldn't have had.

This will definitely be a boost for Brunswick St. and is nice to see.

One of my favorites is the repurposing of King Edward school into an arts incubator building with low density and multi-residential development with it. It was a former sandstone school - the land use has been approved as has the development permit - it just needs to have some civic works deposits paid and then they are good to go.


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[OldDartmouthMark]

I love projects like that! I can't ever see a time where a new building would be built from stone and wood again due to the cost of construction and materials, so it's kind of neat to think that here's a chance to live in or use a "new" building that was constructed in such a fashion.