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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 4:30 AM
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Schmoe - See if you can hit up Nassi again
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 5:07 AM
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 1:42 PM
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Yes, two blocks from Saca's piledrivers there's an aura of silence.

Between a 265-unit building with 80% deposits and an 800+-unit building with 50% deposits I would have bet on the Aura topping out first. Obviously there are other factors in play.

The Towers having the piles driven (or being driven) and setting the foundation may allow Saca to proceed faster than BCN, especially if BCN runs into weather delays during excavation or driving piles. Delaying this project nearly into the rainy season leads me to question whether he's (Nassi) run into some problems.
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I thought they were drilling the piles for Aura? With an "auger" or something? anyone remember?

it wasn't the same process, and Aura is a much smaller building that the Towers project is.
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Anyone willing to post a contract for a tower condo.
I guess not!!
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 7:23 PM
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The contracts are as big as a book... get real guys Youy guys should walk
into the sales office and get the real scoop and stop acting like everythings
flawed. The office is open 7 days a week.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 7:23 PM
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I thought they were drilling the piles for Aura? With an "auger" or something? anyone remember?

That was what they were intending to do....
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Schmoe - See if you can hit up Nassi again
Dude, I got shut down last time. I'm done contacting him.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 7:32 PM
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Dude, I got shut down last time. I'm done contacting him.
What did you say to him???


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Old Posted Sep 15, 2006, 10:43 PM
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LOL! No, I just asked the questions that you forumers put forth. But instead of answering like he used to, he forwarded to a sales agent who gave me no information. I believe that sales agent gets on the boards once in a while, but I can't remember her screen name.
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This is getting interesting. Maybe I'll stick around?
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I am a project manager for a major developer. Although I now live in Southern California, I take great pride in watching my hometown becoming a cosmopolitan center with a spectacular skyline. The Aura project is a critical element of this growth and as such, I am eager to see it completed and thriving.

As a project manager, I would be fighting tooth and nail to start pouring before the rainy season began. If all is in place and yet nothing has started, I find that very distressing. It is all the more troubling if the previously gregarious developer is now clamming up.

Does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that the project is finished, but it is troubling.
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Old Posted Sep 16, 2006, 9:46 PM
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Welcome William!

From what we understand, they will be doing no escavation, other than tearing up the concrete. Will that help the time line at all? We looking at a close call to get foundation poured before the rain starts?
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2006, 12:51 AM
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It looks like the Epic site was recently updated. It's saying 615' will be the height. Not sure if this is new news or not. Also, last night I spoke to someone who talked to Nassi in the last few days, and he said that the project is very much still on. Just a small delay.

http://www.epictower.com/
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2006, 12:55 AM
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Please understand that I am the project manager. I deal with the architects, engineers, city councils, neighborhood groups, planning commissions and city staff. The construction manager works on site with the plumbers, framers and concrete pourers. Also, I have never worked on a high-rise like the Aura project. I have been PM for projects of up to six floors including parking (commonly called podium-over-parking) and approaching costs of $60 mil. Although the construction manager is responsible for day to day activity on site, the PM is ultimately responsible for the successful project completion on schedule and on budget. The PM is in essence, an asset manager and the project is the asset.

I do know that you could not build a project like this without a great deal of excavating. Given Sacramento’s high water table, the foundation would require significant depth and anchoring. On a project this size, I imagine the pile-driving schedule alone is a matter of months, not weeks.

If the driving started today, that takes us well into Sacramento’s rainy season before any significant pouring begins. It’s not likely that they are delaying to time pouring with the start of the dry season. Costs have exploded over the last few years (concrete alone is up over 40% since 2003 - in some cases, much more) and on a project like this, a six-month delay translates into millions.

In a softening real estate market, you want to get going now, not in the spring.

If the buyers are well-qualified (FICO scores exceeding 700), they required no creative financing to purchase and their deposits are good as gold. That is the question to ask the developer. How qualified are the buyers? If he sold units to qualified buyers, we can look forward to Aura majestically gracing the Sacramento skyline. If not, the project is in trouble.
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2006, 3:17 AM
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If the buyers are well-qualified (FICO scores exceeding 700), they required no creative financing to purchase and their deposits are good as gold. That is the question to ask the developer. How qualified are the buyers? If he sold units to qualified buyers, we can look forward to Aura majestically gracing the Sacramento skyline. If not, the project is in trouble.

I think (not certain) but didn't buyers put down either 10-15% of the purchase cost???


BTW William welcome to the boards. Your feedback and expertise are appreciated.
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I don't know for sure, but I'm fairly certain the deposits were 15% (50% more than the 10% deposited by the Towers' buyers) That seems to me a pretty solid down payment on a preconstruction contract, equalling about $100K for most units. As far as I'm concerned, the quality/magnitude of the deposits are of no concern to the eventual likelyhood of this project getting off the ground. I would be willing to wager that the FICO scores of these depositors is significantly better than the homebuyers' scores in the Sac metro area at large. If Nassi actually has 80% of his units spoken for with 15% nonrefundables, then this project is fine. I would say, generally speaking, someone who can put $100K nonrefundable down on a 900sf condo isn't too nervous about a 10% correction in the Sac metro real estate market. I could be wrong, but that's my guess.

But the bottom line, "I hate Michigan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2006, 5:52 PM
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I would say, generally speaking, someone who can put $100K nonrefundable down on a 900sf condo isn't too nervous about a 10% correction in the Sac metro real estate market.
Unless they took out a Home equity line of credit too get the $100k deposit. There is a lot of that going around.
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I don't know for sure, but I'm fairly certain the deposits were 15% (50% more than the 10% deposited by the Towers' buyers) That seems to me a pretty solid down payment on a preconstruction contract, equalling about $100K for most units. As far as I'm concerned, the quality/magnitude of the deposits are of no concern to the eventual likelyhood of this project getting off the ground.
A few points:

As of this month, Sacramento market’s homes for sale inventory is over 15,000. I believe this is a record number.

In the first quarter of 2004, more than one in four houses sold in Sacramento County were to investors and second-home buyers. But at last count this summer it was closer to one in six,

“The wave of investors and Bay Area arrivals who helped drive the (Sacramento) region's real estate market to what many believe were unreasonable heights has primed it now for an aftermath that no one can yet measure. Adding to the uncertainty is the continuing inability of many locals to afford even today's weakened prices as the market slowdown enters its second year…. "Now the market is going back to core activity where local demand is self-generated."
Source: DataQuick.

California foreclosures are increasing at an even faster annual rate, up 160 percent since last year to 12,506.
Source: CNN

Foreclosures in California increased 25 percent from July to August.
Source: RealtyTrac.

Ivy Zelman, a housing analyst at Credit Suisse Group in Cleveland, estimates that prices of newly built homes in San Diego, Sacramento, Calif., Phoenix, northern Virginia and southwest Florida already are down as much as 10% to 15% from a year ago… "We believe that the housing market is still in the early innings of a hard landing that will likely take several years to develop,"
Source: Wall Street Journal

The Sacramento Real Estate Blog reports that sales of existing homes in Sacramento County fell 52.5% in August.


Here’s a little something from Business Week (please note local angle):
For cash-strapped homeowners, it was a pitch they couldn't refuse: Refinance your mortgage at a bargain rate and cut your payments in half. New home buyers, stretching to afford something in a super-heated market, didn't even need to produce documentation, much less a downpayment. Those who took the bait are in for a nasty surprise. While many Americans have started to worry about falling home prices, borrowers who jumped into so-called option ARM loans have another, more urgent problem: payments that are about to skyrocket...

After prolonging the boom, these exotic mortgages could worsen the bust. They also betray such a lack of due diligence on the part of lenders and borrowers that it raises questions of what other problems may be lurking. And most of the pain will be borne by ordinary people, not the lenders, brokers, or financiers who created the problem.

Gordon Burger is among the first wave of option ARM casualties. The 42-year-old police officer from a suburb of Sacramento, Calif., is stuck in a new mortgage that's making him poorer by the month. Burger, a solid earner with clean credit, has bought and sold several houses in the past. In February he got a flyer from a broker advertising an interest rate of 2.2%. It was an unbeatable opportunity, he thought. If he refinanced the mortgage on his $500,000 home into an option ARM, he could save $14,000 in interest payments over three years. Burger quickly pulled the trigger, switching out of his 5.1% fixed-rate loan. "The payment schedule looked like what we talked about, so I just started signing away," says Burger. He didn't read the fine print.

After two months Burger noticed that the minimum payment of $1,697 was actually adding $1,000 to his balance every month. "I'm not making any ground on this house; it's a loss every month," he says. He says he was told by his lender, Minneapolis-based Homecoming Financial, a unit of Residential Capital, the nation's fifth-largest mortgage shop, that he'd have to pay more than $10,000 in prepayment penalties to refinance out of the loan. If he's unhappy, he should take it up with his broker, the bank said. "They know they're selling crap, and they're doing it in a way that's very deceiving," he says. "Unfortunately, I got sucked into it." In a written statement, Residential said it couldn't comment on Burger's loan but that "each mortgage is designed to meet the specific financial needs of a consumer."

He’s a guy I’d call newly unqualified, but the key point is how creative financing prolonged the boom.

In my own experience, I am aware of projects suffering cancellation rates of 40% or more because those who qualified in May or earlier now no longer do. This type of problem becomes even more acute if there are significant delays in construction and thus, closings. Or, buyers who thought they’d be able to pull $200k equity from current property and swing $600k mortgages find the deal no longer pencils.

The point is that in today’s market and particularly in Sacramento, quality of buyer most certainly does matter. It may, in fact, be the single most important factor in determining the viability of a project. I suspect Aura has very quaified buyers and thus should continue. But unless someone here works for Nassi, none of us knows for sure.

What is for sure is that there seems to be an unexplained delay in this project. That’s why it’s the crucial question to ask.
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