HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > General Development


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #7581  
Old Posted Jul 1, 2009, 12:52 PM
sukwoo sukwoo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Oak Park, IL
Posts: 204
Quote:
Originally Posted by Via Chicago View Post
And in related news...



This is going to look atrocious...

And I still cant place where this will be. Is that the former site of the old Pancake House?
Here's more detail from the local paper.

http://wjinc.com/main.asp?SectionID=...rticleID=14939
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7582  
Old Posted Jul 1, 2009, 5:53 PM
ChicagoChicago ChicagoChicago is offline
Chicago carpetbagger
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chicago, Atlanta, Nashville
Posts: 662
Quote:
Originally Posted by sukwoo View Post
Here's more detail from the local paper.

http://wjinc.com/main.asp?SectionID=...rticleID=14939
What does the hotel market look like in Oak Park? At first thought, I'm struggling to see how this thing will be financially viable.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7583  
Old Posted Jul 1, 2009, 6:40 PM
sukwoo sukwoo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Oak Park, IL
Posts: 204
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChicagoChicago View Post
What does the hotel market look like in Oak Park? At first thought, I'm struggling to see how this thing will be financially viable.
Supposedly, market research commissioned by the village suggests that demand exists (otherwise the village presumably wouldn't be subsidizing this proposal.) Oak Park only has two hotels (plus a few B&Bs). Outside the village, the nearest hotels are 6+ miles away near O'hare/Franklin Park. The proprietor of the Carleton Hotel (in Oak Park) isn't happy about having a new (subsidized) competitor for obvious reasons.

Personally, I'm happy to see that block get a big density boost. I know lot of the old-timers around here don't like the idea, but I think most of that is NIMBYism.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7584  
Old Posted Jul 2, 2009, 7:22 PM
J_M_Tungsten's Avatar
J_M_Tungsten J_M_Tungsten is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,379
July 2nd

Old Colony Building looking good.



235 W. Van Buren





155 N. Wacker

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7585  
Old Posted Jul 2, 2009, 8:20 PM
Tom Servo's Avatar
Tom Servo Tom Servo is offline
BANNED
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,647
Quote:
Originally Posted by J_M_Tungsten View Post
Old Colony Building looking good.


unbelievable
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7586  
Old Posted Jul 2, 2009, 9:29 PM
BVictor1's Avatar
BVictor1 BVictor1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 10,469
http://www.suntimes.com/business/164...070109.article

Developer Thomas Roszak, companies file for Chapter 7

July 1, 2009

BY DAVID ROEDER droeder@suntimes.com

Not even a highly publicized auction of condominiums could save the business of architect and developer Thomas Roszak. Roszak and companies he controls filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection. The filing indicates he will liquidate rather than reorganize operations.

He has been a busy developer from Evanston to the South Loop, drawing acclaim for his designs and lawsuits over his business practices. Roszak has been sued by investors who accused him of mishandling money from their partnerships, and he settled at least one case.

Roszak designed a 31-story tower at 601 S. Wells called Vetro. In March, he staged an auction that led to the sale of 45 units in a slow market. But his court filing listed such creditors as Bank of America, a lender at Vetro, and debts associated with an Evanston condo project called Sienna.

In an e-mail, Roszak attributed his plight to “an unprecedented decline in housing values.” His filing claimed less than $10 million in assets vs. at least $50 million in liabilities.
__________________
titanic1
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7587  
Old Posted Jul 2, 2009, 10:26 PM
BorisMolotov's Avatar
BorisMolotov BorisMolotov is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 547
Regarding the Old Colony Building, are there any other old buildings in desperate need of cleaining? I always see one in the northern part of the loop with like almost yellow and dirty black bricks, is that intentional or is that on purpose?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7588  
Old Posted Jul 2, 2009, 11:23 PM
wrab's Avatar
wrab wrab is offline
Deerhoof Evangelist
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,670
Notice in window is for development of 470' building at 421-25 & 430-38 S Michigan - this would be the Roosevelt U dorm tower.





It's a strange little building - cast iron/terra-cotta mix on the face? - but I'm kinda fond of it and will be sorry if it goes.

Last edited by wrab; Jul 3, 2009 at 7:00 AM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7589  
Old Posted Jul 2, 2009, 11:31 PM
J_M_Tungsten's Avatar
J_M_Tungsten J_M_Tungsten is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,379
Quote:
Originally Posted by J_M_Tungsten View Post
Old Colony Building looking good.
I never even noticed the fire escape stairs until they started cleaning this thing. They blended in so well with the rest of the building. I wish they would get rid of them, quite an eyesore for such a nice building (now).
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7590  
Old Posted Jul 2, 2009, 11:58 PM
Busy Bee's Avatar
Busy Bee Busy Bee is offline
just a pool of mushy goo
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: on the artistic spectrum
Posts: 11,225
You could really get into a real debate on an architecture forum like this when one starts to talk about pro and anti fire escapes. It's really 50/50 for me. The shielded turds that were on the Palmer House, yeah those were terrible and I'm glad they're gone. But others on old apartment houses in NY or like these on the Old Colony I don't mind—they seem to add texture, dimension and interest.
__________________
Everything new is old again

Trumpism is the road to ruin
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7591  
Old Posted Jul 3, 2009, 12:31 AM
J_M_Tungsten's Avatar
J_M_Tungsten J_M_Tungsten is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,379
I agree that some buildings look good with fire escaped, especially darker brick buildings, but just try to image the Old Colony building with out the stairs, it would look amazing, just like it did when it was built, but yes some buildings do look like they were meant to have them.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7592  
Old Posted Jul 3, 2009, 12:55 AM
BWChicago's Avatar
BWChicago BWChicago is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 486
This photo also shows the repainting going on at Harold Washington Library - which makes no sense to me, I thought the color was supposed to be like patina-ed copper. The dark green just looks like... dark green.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7593  
Old Posted Jul 3, 2009, 2:01 AM
Mr Downtown's Avatar
Mr Downtown Mr Downtown is offline
Urbane observer
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by BorisMolotov View Post
are there any other old buildings in desperate need of cleaning?
The Edison (now Board of Education) Building at Clark/Adams. I think there's resistance to doing anything that might be thought of as a "waste" of money needed for education, though a few years ago there was a rumor that TIF money had been allocated for the project.

Last edited by Mr Downtown; Jul 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7594  
Old Posted Jul 3, 2009, 3:30 AM
denizen467 denizen467 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,212
Quote:
Originally Posted by J_M_Tungsten View Post
You were on the Skydeck?!?? How was The Ledge?
More pressingly, how long are the lines??
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7595  
Old Posted Jul 3, 2009, 4:18 AM
J_M_Tungsten's Avatar
J_M_Tungsten J_M_Tungsten is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,379
It was pretty sweet actually, I highly recommend it! I thought it would have been more "thrilling" honestly though. I got there right at 10 so the lines weren't so bad, but when we we're leaving around 1130 the line was out the door and went down Jackson! Im going to post more pics from inside later on other threads so keep an eye out!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7596  
Old Posted Jul 3, 2009, 6:39 AM
ardecila's Avatar
ardecila ardecila is offline
TL;DR
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: the city o'wind
Posts: 16,524
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWChicago View Post
This photo also shows the repainting going on at Harold Washington Library - which makes no sense to me, I thought the color was supposed to be like patina-ed copper. The dark green just looks like... dark green.
Yea, you're right. My only thought is that it might be an overcompensation for fading, so that once the paint fades, it will be the appropriate shade?

Fading certainly hasn't been kind to the Thompson Center - I can see why CPL would want to avoid that problem.
__________________
la forme d'une ville change plus vite, hélas! que le coeur d'un mortel...
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7597  
Old Posted Jul 3, 2009, 7:24 AM
wrab's Avatar
wrab wrab is offline
Deerhoof Evangelist
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,670
Quote:
Originally Posted by ardecila View Post
.....Fading certainly hasn't been kind to the Thompson Center - I can see why CPL would want to avoid that problem.
Yeah - the TC is looking rat-eared.





Or is that supposed to be the Korean Peninsula in the top panel?


Last edited by wrab; Jul 3, 2009 at 7:35 AM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7598  
Old Posted Jul 3, 2009, 3:07 PM
the urban politician the urban politician is offline
The City
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Chicago region
Posts: 21,375
Surprised this was never posted.

Now if Chicago can just keep up this growth for a decade, it will gain 200,000 residents:

Chicago population rises for 2nd year in a row
Recession forces many residents to stay put

Tribune staff report
July 1, 2009
For the second year in a row, Chicago's overall population increased, challenging the trend of declining population as the economy causes many urban residents to put off moves to suburbia.

From July 1, 2007, to July 1, 2008, Chicago grew by 20,606 people, according to population estimates released Wednesday by the Census Bureau. That's more than three times the previous year's reported increase of 6,400 people, which reversed five consecutive years of population declines.

Part of the explanation for Chicago's population increase are changes in domestic migration patterns. The number of residents leaving Cook County slowed by nearly 11 percent from 2006 to 2007, while those entering the county fell by only 0.4 percent, according to demographer Kenneth Johnson, a professor of the University of New Hampshire who previously taught at Loyola University Chicago.

Large cities across the country continue to lose people who leave for other communities in the United States, but the rate of loss has diminished in the last year as more people remain in place.

Chicago is still the third largest U.S. city, with 2.85 million people.
__________________
Supercar Adventures is my YouTube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4W...lUKB1w8ED5bV2Q
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7599  
Old Posted Jul 3, 2009, 3:17 PM
wrab's Avatar
wrab wrab is offline
Deerhoof Evangelist
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,670
^ I'm somewhat suspicious of these interim census reports, as they have been inaccurate in the past. The full 10-year census coming up should be a better indicator. Last time round, the interim reports were showing population losses whereas in fact the full census showed a population gain for the period.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #7600  
Old Posted Jul 3, 2009, 3:29 PM
sentinel's Avatar
sentinel sentinel is offline
Plenary pleasures.
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Monterey CA
Posts: 4,320
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianXSands View Post


unbelievable
Adrian I was thinking the same exact thing!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Talk about a transformation!!! It looks like a brand new building. In fact I think this revelation deserves a
__________________
Don't be shy. Step into the light.
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > General Development
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 7:56 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.