Winnipeg Roads & Infrastructure

[bon_vivant]

I dunno... I keep hearing about how bad the build quality of new homes are nowadays (from owners and builders). Cheap materials... poor construction... dishonoured warranties... I'm sure cost-cutting must be at an all time high with inflation and all. I'd resist the temptation buy into a new development.

[bomberjet]

This set-up should be used way more often. I think about this at a lot off locations actually. Sitting waiting for the non-existent traffic to turn left.

Originally Posted by bodaggin

Related: I'm not sure why "Slip-Lanes" or "By-Pass Lanes" aren't used at Winnipeg T-Intersections. Examples include Academy, Chief/Main, Archibald/Provencher, Marion/Lag, etc. Any 3-way intersection.

The right-most lanes of the "Tee" should never get a red light. They should be permanently green, and protected from encroaching left turns by median barriers. This left turning traffic can merge in further downstream. This simple and cheap design could create more free flowing intersection and reduce the drag of traffic lights. They can be used on turning circles at 3-way intersections too.

[Carboy15]

Adding onto yesterdays discussion of building Waverly street to Portage, McPhillips and Waverly were supposed to connect at one point. A Waverly and McPhillips connection would be a dream, but house expropriation would be a big opposition. Similar to McGillvary and Fermor connection. It would make sense to everyone but the residents

[bon_vivant]

Originally Posted by Carboy15

Adding onto yesterdays discussion of building Waverly street to Portage, McPhillips and Waverly were supposed to connect at one point. A Waverly and McPhillips connection would be a dream, but house expropriation would be a big opposition. Similar to McGillvary and Fermor connection. It would make sense to everyone but the residents

It would make sense to the residents if the price was right. I lived in Vancouver for many years. The city expropriated blocks and blocks of single family dwellings to make room for higher density residences. The difference is that they have the money to make irresistible offers to the homeowners and the new multi-resident dwellings will provide even more tax revenue for the city. Here, we don't have the money to buy up land like that, especially for something that won't generate revenue. Even speculating the possibility is pointless. Winnipeg has painted itself into a corner when it comes to our road network. Better public transit seems like the more viable way to go. Anyway... that's just my take, I'm not an expert on the topic.

[bodaggin]

Credit where it's due, CoW is on a Mill + Fill rampage this year.

Route 90 @ Sask was done. Then route 90 at Academy NB was done. And now Route 90 at RRC is in progress. Bravo. These projects weren't listed on the Construction map either, so maybe some bean-counter finally grabbed the bull by the horns and made a proper call. Good.

M+F is the cheapest, fastest, most painless way to get roads up to snuff until permanent fixes can occur. Even if the patch only lasts 2yrs. That rig should be running 24hr a day all summer long, aside from rain days. Start on the main routes and work down to P2's until main routes need a redo. The entire city could be resurfaced in 2 summers with 1 or 2 rigs and the value for dollar is through the roof. More of this!

[cllew]

We should be happy that over the last few years that mill and fills have been done on major routes on weekends. Out my way we had Regent and 59 done over two weekends.

Last year 59 by Rona was done as weekend work too.

Years ago there would never have been city crews doing that on a weekend.

[Biff]

Lagimodiere from Springfield Rd south to Hwy 1 at the Mint is in horrible shape (pretty much all of Lagimodiere). I can't believe that the city would let a "high speed route" if you can call it that, be in such poor shape.

[wags_in_the_peg]

Originally Posted by Biff

Lagimodiere from Springfield Rd south to Hwy 1 at the Mint is in horrible shape (pretty much all of Lagimodiere). I can't believe that the city would let a "high speed route" if you can call it that, be in such poor shape.

[harls]

Is the St. Mary's / Perimeter interchange done yet?

[optimusREIM]

Nope, they appear to have made some progress, but still weeks away from any traffic on the interchange

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Nope, they appear to have made some progress, but still weeks away from any traffic on the interchange

Or more. Went through there Monday and so much more work to be done.

[Hecate]

I drove through there a couple weeks ago, looked basically the same as the year before when I went to a bomber game.

[wags_in_the_peg]

Originally Posted by Hecate

I drove through there a couple weeks ago, looked basically the same as the year before when I went to a bomber game.

if you've seen no changes in 1 year there, i highly recommend you get your eyes checked. they have built massive new roads to the north & south, etc. it's not done obviously but to say no changes in 1 year is very wrong

[WildCake]

Originally Posted by Kinguni

Or more. Went through there Monday and so much more work to be done.

Still lots to do. Most of the ramps and future St Marys roadway is paved, and they have the Perimeter roadway almost ready. Currently excavating and grading the median east of the bridge.

The tricky job will be diverting the current St Mary's roadway to pave the EB Perimeter lanes and ramps, while maintaining some sort of traffic light system.

[Hockey]

How is the Abinojii Mikanah roadwork coming along? I saw the city doing the EB road between st.vital bridge and st. Mary's. Is it looking good?

[Biff]

They are using the same technique on Abinojii as they used on the section of McGillivray from Waverley to Pembina Hwy done a few years ago.

Basically this work can only be done on a road that utilizes ditch drainage. They apply a thick amount of aggregate base directly over the old concrete and asphalt roadway (thus utilizing the old roadway as a compacted base). They grade it, pack it and apply the new asphalt roadway on top and grade the edges with a clay fill.

Pretty ingenious if you ask me. It wouldn't work on a curbed road with sewer grates. the new roadway ends up being probably close to 12" higher than the previous roadway.

[bomberjet]

The sandwich method. The Province also does something similar in rubbelizing the concrete and building on top. They're doing this on PTH 75.

This is also a good way to reconstruct parking lots. Instead of digging it all out and replacing, just put the gravel on top and repave. We did this in at least one location, possibly two.

[bodaggin]

On the topic of smart imagineering: More pre-cast please.

Whole overpasses, not just girders. Especially in a climate with <150 day construction season. Pre-cast in warm factories during winter, rapid-assemble onsite during the short summer window. None of this Mickey Mouse tarp and heater stuff. Cast-in-place is part of the reason MB overpasses are so slow and expensive.

[Jeff]

it took almost three years, but the city and hydro finally replaced the heritage light pole in front of city hall at main and william! probably only did it ceremonially for the city's 150th bday.

[cllew]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

The sandwich method. The Province also does something similar in rubbelizing the concrete and building on top. They're doing this on PTH 75.

This is also a good way to reconstruct parking lots. Instead of digging it all out and replacing, just put the gravel on top and repave. We did this in at least one location, possibly two.

Is what MIT was doing like proof rolling to break and sink the pavement chunks

I know the city of Winnipeg did at least 2 streets in Winnipeg like that a number of years ago. One was two blocks away from me on my street in EK and the other I am aware of was in North Kildonan on a street off of Edison that friends of mine lived on.

I have not see any tenders since those for proof rolling the pavement before doing a residential pavement overlay.