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View Poll Results: Who should be the next mayor of Ottawa?
Mark Sutcliffe 8 15.38%
Catherine McKenney 43 82.69%
Bob Chiarelli 1 1.92%
Other 0 0%
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Almost certainly. Without knowing the geographic results of the Ottawa mayoral race it's easy to see how amalgamation has been a failure on a number of urban fronts. Suburban growth, urban degradation, downgrade of most city services in general.
Well that was the plan. Along with downloading services without causing a flight to the suburbs.

I wonder if Sutcliffe even won narrowly in some of the downtown wards given the overall numbers unless McK was deeply unpopular in the suburbs.
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So disappointed... thought voter turnout would have been over 50%. Some of the councillors that got re-elected (Hubley - seriously Kanata South?!?!?!)... will be interesting to see how Sutcliffe navigates this Council. And the donor list will be an interesting delight. He did win clearly so hoping for the best.
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So disappointed... thought voter turnout would have been over 50%. Some of the councillors that got re-elected (Hubley - seriously Kanata South?!?!?!)... will be interesting to see how Sutcliffe navigates this Council. And the donor list will be an interesting delight. He did win clearly so hoping for the best.
Yeah, this was the most exciting election since 2010. So much at stake. I was expecting a turnout in the 60 percents.

Hubley and Darouze, my God! Hubley ran in 2010 promising he would only serve two terms. Now on his fourth. He says that he'll sick around as long as people want him, but they don't. Winning 35% of the vote while your two main rivals each hover around 25% is not a ringing endorsement.

Sutcliffe has a chance now to show that he does have a "balanced" approach and will represent the entire City with his Committee Chair picks. No more stacking the deck with suburban and rural Councillors like Watson did.

I found Sutcliffe's victory speech, but not McKenney's concession speech. Apparently, Sutcliffe praised McKenney and told their voters that he heard them (McKenney supporters).

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Yeah, this was the most exciting election since 2010. So much at stake. I was expecting a turnout in the 60 percents.

Hubley and Darouze, my God! Hubley ran in 2010 promising he would only serve two terms. Now on his fourth. He says that he'll sick around as long as people want him, but they don't. Winning 35% of the vote while your two main rivals each hover around 25% is not a ringing endorsement.

Sutcliffe has a chance now to show that he does have a "balanced" approach and will represent the entire City with his Committee Chair picks. No more stacking the deck with suburban and rural Councillors like Watson did.

I found Sutcliffe's victory speech, but not McKenney's concession speech. Apparently, Sutcliffe praised McKenney and told their voters that he heard them (McKenney supporters).

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They both gave very good speeches. CBC claimed and I believe it that the two of them get along well at a personal level.

I think Sutcliffe is clear on where is bread is buttered. We are back to 13-12 votes I think.
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Ottawa council election saw lots of change — but few surprises
The new council under Mark Sutcliffe will have less collective experience than its predecessor.

Taylor Blewett, Ottawa Citizen
Oct 25, 2022 • 1 hour ago • 5 minute read


Voters steered clear of any major upsets in selecting 11 new faces for Ottawa council Monday and allowing every incumbent to return to the table, where Mark Sutcliffe rather than Catherine McKenney will succeed Jim Watson as mayor.

The new council will have less collective experience than its predecessor, with a cohort of political newcomers, including the mayor, joining two veterans whose council histories extend to 12 years and a few others with eight.

The remainder of the incumbents have served only a term and, in some cases, not yet a full one.

Some of the more seasoned councillors also saw the most serious threats to their re-election. In Osgoode, former councillor Doug Thompson came close to pulling off a comeback, but the unofficial results Monday night indicated he didn’t secure quite enough support to topple two-term incumbent George Darouze, who led by about 240 votes.

Kanata South’s Allan Hubley didn’t manage a huge vote of support for his fourth mandate — just 34 per cent of the ballots cast — but it was enough to win, with the remainder split between a field of strong challengers.

Fellow-three term councillor Tim Tierney kept his lock on Beacon Hill-Cyrville, while Riley Brockington in River and Jeff Leiper in Kitchissippi both won solid mandates to represent the wards they’ve held since 2014.

This group now accounts for the veteran voices at the council table, after the city’s senior-most politicians chose this election to make their exit.

Replacing Jan Harder, Diane Deans and Rick Chiarelli, who’ve been on council since amalgamation, will be newcomers David Hill in Barrhaven West, Jessica Bradley in Gloucester-Southgate and Laine Johnson in College.

Hill is a Canadian Forces veteran, whose campaign involved a minor scandal that wasn’t enough to torpedo his appeal among voters (he apologized for a “lapse in judgment” after he was caught on camera removing a competitor’s flyer from a resident’s front door and replacing it with his own).

Bradley, who strode to a comfortable victory Monday, will step into familiar shoes in Deans’s ward, as the councillor’s executive assistant of more than a decade.

Johnson, on leave from a director role at affordable housing provider Centretown Citizens Ottawa Corporation, started campaigning long before Chiarelli bowed out of the race, and bested her closest challenger — Pat McGarry of Hulse, Playfair and McGarry Funeral Homes — by more than 3,000 votes.

In rural West Carleton-March, Parliament Hill Liberal staffer Clarke Kelly edged out his opponents by claiming 27 per cent of the vote in a crowded field to take over for retiring Eli El-Chantiry, who was first elected in 2003.

In neighbouring Rideau-Jock, where Scott Moffatt decided to move on after three terms, political staffer David Brown easily secured the victory. He came up short in 2018 when he challenged Moffatt, in whose office he used to work, for the seat.

A 10-candidate battle in Rideau-Vanier become a fight to the finish between two front-runners, with public servant Stéphanie Plante defeating researcher and fellow university professor Laura Shantz by just over 300 votes. They were vying to replace Mathieu Fleury, another three-term councillor who didn’t want a fourth.

Knoxdale-Merivale Coun. Keith Egli left his ward in the same circumstance, with seven candidates vying to take over as its representative, and playwright Sean Devine ending up the winner. It’s a sweet electoral victory for Devine, a well-known community volunteer who twice ran unsuccessfully as a federal NDP candidate in the area.

In Alta Vista –– Jean Cloutier’s turf since 2014 –– the incumbent-less race was won by Marty Carr, a federal public service executive and former president of the Alta Vista community association. She bested three challengers, including runner-up Carolyn Kropp, MPP John Fraser’s executive assistant.

Somerset ward handed an expected victory to Ariel Troster, a communications strategist who won McKenney’s endorsement for her bid to take over the ward McKenney had represented for two terms, and enjoyed support from other local progressives.

One ward is actually gaining a more experienced councillor than it’s losing. In Riverside South-Findlay Creek, Steve Desroches — the area’s previous councillor twice over — secured by a sizeable margin a return to the seat that Carol Anne Meehan is leaving after one term.

OC Transpo employee Wilson Lo will become the first-ever councillor for Barrhaven East, the city’s 24th ward and a new addition to its electoral map. The 30-year-old bus driver-turned-customer communications officer secured 37 per cent of the vote in a seven-candidate field.

The other eight of the 13 sitting councillors who won their respective races Monday night will be entering their second terms.

In the city’s east end, reworked ward boundaries were no blockage for Matthew Luloff, Laura Dudas and Catherine Kitts. They breezed to re-election in Orléans East-Cumberland, Orléans West-Innes and Orléans South-Navan, respectively.

In the west, Kanata North voters gave their seal of approval to Cathy Curry, who was appointed by council last November to the seat Jenna Sudds had vacated to run federally. Curry took more than three-quarters of the vote Monday.

In Stittsville, planning committee co-chair Glen Gower saw his pitch for re-election easily green-lit by ward residents, defeating his nearest opponent by more than 5,000 votes and taking 59 per cent overall.

Inside the Greenbelt, a cohort of one-term councillors broadly seen as part of this council’s “progressive” faction were returned to their seats, overwhelming their few challengers with roughly 80 per cent of the vote in each race: Theresa Kavanagh in Bay, Shawn Menard in Capital and Rawlson King in Rideau-Rockcliffe.

Newly elected councillors will have a few weeks to get oriented before their swearing-in on Nov. 15. The current council stays in place until that time, subject to “lame duck” rules that restrict their ability to approve new spending and to hire or fire staff.

Monday’s results aren’t official until the clerk declares them, which is expected on or before Friday.

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Larry O’Brien offers some hard-earned lessons to Ottawa’s mayor-elect

By: Larry OBrien
Oct 25, 2022 9:19am EDT


Congratulations to Mark Sutcliffe, the 60th mayor of Ottawa!

Full disclosure, Mark — I didn’t support you because I don’t believe a rookie can do the job. But in a great competition, you won. Now comes a few weeks of joyful celebration with old friends and many brand-new friends.

You’re now the mayor of Ottawa, where my great-grandfather came to live in 1847. It is now a large, complex city with over 100 city services being delivered to more than one million residents in 2,500 square kilometres. On a playful note, Ottawa is the only G7 country with a farm in the geographic middle. In other words, you have a very complex and demanding job in front of you.

My first two years were a massive learning experience and if I had a do-over, here is a list of 10 things I would do differently. I offer it as a gift with a hope you succeed, because if you succeed we all succeed.
  1. Immediately announce you are going to donate any raise to charity. The raises come by process and you might not even hear about them until it is on the news. Jim Watson did that in 1996 and it's good politics.
  2. Pick a chief of staff that has been in city hall and understands the nature of municipal politics. As a rookie, you will need guidance and wise counsel from someone who knows the way around city hall. Maybe even a former councillor that did not run for re-election?
  3. You have had a lot of help getting elected but remember, most of them have zero experience running a city. After studying the city financials for two weeks, I realized my zero-means-zero promise was impossible to keep. Yet, I listened to some well-intentioned stubborn supporters who had no grasp on the issues. I was a rookie and easily led.
  4. Get to know all the new and existing councillors quickly. You will need a majority of council on your side to get anything of worth done. I think this will be natural for you and that is good.
  5. Meet the heads of the unions quickly and roll over and be submissive. They run the city and, unless the province passes legislation to reverse the binding arbitration clauses, you will never be in control. By the way, there are many qualified and quality people among the 17,000 union workers who want the city to function well. Don’t pick a fight with the union bosses because you can’t possibly win.
  6. Review the senior executive team of the city. Ask Watson who among the senior management is capable and trustworthy. Fire anyone you doubt and do it quickly; they can make your life a living hell if they choose.
  7. Find a good long-term project that will make the city better and start working on it. There are new technologies you could explore that would continue to position you as a democratic leader. The city could be a world leader in governance.
  8. Don’t cancel any major projects; it's not worth the pain, even if you are right. What the last council completed is where you start from. Fortunately, besides the new hospital, there is not much on the books, so you have a clean slate.
  9. Walk back your intentions to not use the new mayor’s powers. Those new powers will be your tool to build a better and stronger Ottawa.
  10. Make friends with the provincial government. Although you were elected by the citizens of Ottawa, you are a creature of the province.

And on behalf of all of us who did not vote for you, good luck and I, for one, will be cheering for your success. Good luck.


Larry O'Brien is co-founder of Prio Arts.io, founder of Calian Group and former mayor of Ottawa.

https://www.obj.ca/article/local/cit...as-mayor-elect
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By: Larry OBrien
Oct 25, 2022 9:19am EDT


Congratulations to Mark Sutcliffe, the 60th mayor of Ottawa!

Full disclosure, Mark — I didn’t support you because I don’t believe a rookie can do the job. But in a great competition, you won. Now comes a few weeks of joyful celebration with old friends and many brand-new friends.

You’re now the mayor of Ottawa, where my great-grandfather came to live in 1847. It is now a large, complex city with over 100 city services being delivered to more than one million residents in 2,500 square kilometres. On a playful note, Ottawa is the only G7 country with a farm in the geographic middle. In other words, you have a very complex and demanding job in front of you.

My first two years were a massive learning experience and if I had a do-over, here is a list of 10 things I would do differently. I offer it as a gift with a hope you succeed, because if you succeed we all succeed.
  1. Immediately announce you are going to donate any raise to charity. The raises come by process and you might not even hear about them until it is on the news. Jim Watson did that in 1996 and it's good politics.
  2. Pick a chief of staff that has been in city hall and understands the nature of municipal politics. As a rookie, you will need guidance and wise counsel from someone who knows the way around city hall. Maybe even a former councillor that did not run for re-election?
  3. You have had a lot of help getting elected but remember, most of them have zero experience running a city. After studying the city financials for two weeks, I realized my zero-means-zero promise was impossible to keep. Yet, I listened to some well-intentioned stubborn supporters who had no grasp on the issues. I was a rookie and easily led.
  4. Get to know all the new and existing councillors quickly. You will need a majority of council on your side to get anything of worth done. I think this will be natural for you and that is good.
  5. Meet the heads of the unions quickly and roll over and be submissive. They run the city and, unless the province passes legislation to reverse the binding arbitration clauses, you will never be in control. By the way, there are many qualified and quality people among the 17,000 union workers who want the city to function well. Don’t pick a fight with the union bosses because you can’t possibly win.
  6. Review the senior executive team of the city. Ask Watson who among the senior management is capable and trustworthy. Fire anyone you doubt and do it quickly; they can make your life a living hell if they choose.
  7. Find a good long-term project that will make the city better and start working on it. There are new technologies you could explore that would continue to position you as a democratic leader. The city could be a world leader in governance.
  8. Don’t cancel any major projects; it's not worth the pain, even if you are right. What the last council completed is where you start from. Fortunately, besides the new hospital, there is not much on the books, so you have a clean slate.
  9. Walk back your intentions to not use the new mayor’s powers. Those new powers will be your tool to build a better and stronger Ottawa.
  10. Make friends with the provincial government. Although you were elected by the citizens of Ottawa, you are a creature of the province.

And on behalf of all of us who did not vote for you, good luck and I, for one, will be cheering for your success. Good luck.


Larry O'Brien is co-founder of Prio Arts.io, founder of Calian Group and former mayor of Ottawa.

https://www.obj.ca/article/local/cit...as-mayor-elect
Good article. Better at giving advice than doing it I guess. Sounds like he learned a lot.

But who the heck did he vote for?
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Good article. Better at giving advice than doing it I guess. Sounds like he learned a lot.

But who the heck did he vote for?
Ironically, Bob Chiarelli.
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I expect Ottawa to experience the same type of degradation under Sutcliffe as Toronto saw under Tory. And it will be well earned.
The key difference between Toronto and Ottawa is that Toronto has "run out of land". It can't keep sprawling within its own boundaries, so its policy conflicts are somewhat different from Ottawa's.
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And yet they lined up behind McKenney.
Sitting LPC and LOP MPs and MPPs were Sutcliffe supporters. Official Ottawa Liberaldom for McKenney was a minority.
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Cost-recovery e-bike chargers?
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And yet they lined up behind McKenney.
Did I miss something? Naqvi, Sudds, and Blais all actively supported Sutcliffe. McKenna is the only Ottawa Liberal I saw actively supporting McKenney and she's not even an MP anymore. Did I miss someone else who was supporting McKenney?
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Cost-recovery e-bike chargers?
When people tell you who they are you should believe them. This is a bike plan like most of our transit plans written to appeal to voters who won't use transit or bikes but think they are good for getting other people off the roads and out of their way. While some grants might change the math imagine what an actual cost recovery would require to break even on bike charging infrastructure. Now Ottawa Hydro is a cash generating engine so we can hide lots of unprofitable virtue signaling in it's budget. An actual green plan would increase our Hydro rates at least to Hydro One rates and any drop in consumption could be exported to the grid. But we prefer to pretend we can be net zero with no costs to ourselves.

Bottom line obviously anyone who prioritizes cycling should have voted for McKenney it was probably biggest difference between candidates with transit fares and service another but more marginal.
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Did I miss something? Naqvi, Sudds, and Blais all actively supported Sutcliffe. McKenna is the only Ottawa Liberal I saw actively supporting McKenney and she's not even an MP anymore. Did I miss someone else who was supporting McKenney?
Yeah you're right. Some staffers McKenna and Carney doesn't outweigh Sutcliffe's for sure.
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The key difference between Toronto and Ottawa is that Toronto has "run out of land". It can't keep sprawling within its own boundaries, so its policy conflicts are somewhat different from Ottawa's.
To a point. Ottawa can sprawl more. Doesn't change affordability problems, as we see elsewhere. And now we'll get to add horrendous traffic as the mayor basically ignores every alternative form of transport. We can look forward to Ottawa guiding towards becoming even more like Mississauga.
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I expected that the Freedom Convoy occupation would motivate the people of downtown to vote, but turns out it wasn't the case. Turnout was only 45% in the Somerset Ward.

https://app06.ottawa.ca/election/2022_en.html

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I expected that the Freedom Convoy occupation would motivate the people of downtown to vote, but turns out it wasn't the case. Turnout was only 45% in the Somerset Ward.

https://app06.ottawa.ca/election/2022_en.html
That's higher than the two Rideau wards. Would have to compare to last time to see if the convoy had any impact. Maybe a few points at most. Mostly people vote or they don't.
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Pundits' panel: Our columnists ponder the results of Ottawa's municipal election
Brigitte Pellerin, Randall Denley and Mohammed Adam join editorial pages editor Christina Spencer to share some post-election thoughts.

The Ottawa Citizen Editorial Board
Oct 25, 2022 • 6 hours ago • 5 minute read


Ottawa has a new mayor, Mark Sutcliffe. What are your thoughts about his victory?

Brigitte Pellerin: I endorsed Catherine McKenney for mayor. I would have been happier had they won. That said, a Mark Sutcliffe victory does not make me unhappy. He is not an experienced politician but he is a good and honourable man who works hard and doesn’t give up easy. He’ll do a fine job. I am not happy that voters chose a platform so heavy on asphalt and so weak on active transportation and affordable housing. I guess Ottawa didn’t want that much change after all.

Randall Denley: An impressive and substantial victory for Mark Sutcliffe. A clear verdict from Ottawa voters. Let’s hope the next council respects that and follows his leadership.

Mohammed Adam: Mark Sutcliffe’s victory is not surprising. It is a dominant win, but electing someone with no experience is a gamble. Sutcliffe ran a smart campaign; he aggressively went after Catherine McKenney’s spending promises, and was seen as more like Jim Watson than anyone else. McKenney would have taken the city in a dramatically different direction, and they were too much of a revolutionary for Ottawa to abide.

Christina Spencer: Sutcliffe’s victory shows, again, that campaigns matter. He entered the race late but quickly got out in front of his opponents on several issues. But as I am sure he well knows, now comes the hard part.

What should the new council’s priority be, among the many issues facing it?

Pellerin: As always after a somewhat fractious election, the first priority ought to be mending fences and finding ways to identify common ground and work together in the interests of the city. Does that sound goodie-two-shoes, or what? Fine. Ottawa is at its best when it does the right thing earnestly.

Denley: Dealing with the complex but intertwined problems of the hollowing out of downtown due to public service work- from-home, and the collapse in OC Transpo ridership.

Adam: Three things. First, bridge the divide on council by setting up a fair and equitable process for appointing committee chairs. Mayor Jim Watson abused the process to reward those he liked, and that’s where the problem began. Second, a root-and-branch financial review. Third, downtown is at a crossroads, and Sutcliffe should quickly meet with Ottawa-Vanier MP and Treasury Board President Mona Fortier to impress on her how dire the situation is. The city needs Fortier as an ally in the fight to persuade the federal government to get employees back in their offices. Otherwise, downtown is doomed.

Spencer: My first priority would be aimed specifically at Mark Sutcliffe. Find a way to involve Catherine McKenney in the city’s near-term future in some way, as a clarion voice for some of the environmental concerns they have championed. There’s much a new mayor and new councillors should learn from McKenney.

A lot of new councillors were elected; some familiar faces return. What are your thoughts?

Pellerin: Not too many surprises overall. But I am very pleased to see Ariel Troster winning in Somerset ward, taking the seat vacated by Catherine McKenney. Troster knows downtown like the back of her hand, and is uncommonly knowledgeable about urban issues generally. She is well-connected in her neighbourhood and — evidently — well-liked, too. I’ll be watching her closely.

Denley: Despite McKenney’s loss, there has been a definite strengthening of the progressive wing of city council. It is good to see solid councillors such as Catherine Kitts, Cathy Curry, Jeff Leiper, Glen Gower and Rawlson King back at the council table. The city will need their leadership.

Adam: Some of the returnees were Jim Watson acolytes and they will find a comfortable home with Sutcliffe. What we should all hope for is that they will develop some backbone and think for themselves, instead of becoming yes-men and women again. Looking at both confirmed results and those leading in the count, people who identify with “progressive issues” have picked up a couple more seats among the new councillors. The divide will not be easily fixed. Sutcliffe has his work cut out for him.

Spencer: Fresh faces, no matter their initial ideological views, will help council think more creatively as it faces continuing challenges around the downtown, policing, transit and housing.

Anything surprise you?

Pellerin: I was surprised to see support for Bob Chiarelli so low. I thought he would pull more voters away from Mark Sutcliffe. His campaign was a plea for getting back to basics and living within our means, which is especially attractive to suburban homeowners who don’t use transit and want their taxes as low as possible and their roads pothole-free. Evidently those voters went with Sutcliffe in the end.

Denley: Sutcliffe’s margin of victory was significantly larger than expected based on polls, but I was at a big public event on the weekend. You could feel sentiment firming up in his favour in the last few days.

Adam: Sutcliffe’s big margin is remarkable.

Spencer: Maybe I’ve watched federal politics for too long, but I was surprised at the good, tough, healthy debate between the mayoral front-runners. They took the issues seriously — they took each other seriously — and Ottawans were treated to a genuine exchange of ideas. Sure, social media was a cesspool of silly comments from folks who should know better, but in real life, the candidates set a high bar for what a campaign should look like. Surprising — in a good way.

Broadly, what did we learn about Ottawa and Ottawans from this election?

Pellerin: Sutcliffe’s victory shows the power of middle-class values and sensitivities in Ottawa politics. People want a house they can afford, roads that get you where you need to be, taxes that are as low as possible, and a downtown they find congenial and safe to go visit — by car — on the weekend. They have relatively limited interest in effective public transit or addressing the causes of homeless and poverty. Sutcliffe ran hard on middle-class values, and it paid off.

Denley: Ottawans prefer a centrist mayor. Jim Watson was one and so was Bob Chiarelli in his day. By electing Sutcliffe, they’re sticking to form.

Adam: Ottawa is a no-drama, steady-as-she-goes city, and the result reflects the city’s personality. McKenney represented a new Ottawa that voters were not ready to embrace. Sutcliffe is a safe choice; he represents continuity and that’s why he got the nod.

Spencer: I think it says they’re as aware as anyone else of global financial instability, inflation and interest rates. They aren’t prepared for big new investments — this time. But in future? Who knows?

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When people tell you who they are you should believe them. This is a bike plan like most of our transit plans written to appeal to voters who won't use transit or bikes but think they are good for getting other people off the roads and out of their way. While some grants might change the math imagine what an actual cost recovery would require to break even on bike charging infrastructure. Now Ottawa Hydro is a cash generating engine so we can hide lots of unprofitable virtue signaling in it's budget. An actual green plan would increase our Hydro rates at least to Hydro One rates and any drop in consumption could be exported to the grid. But we prefer to pretend we can be net zero with no costs to ourselves.

Bottom line obviously anyone who prioritizes cycling should have voted for McKenney it was probably biggest difference between candidates with transit fares and service another but more marginal.
Increasing hydro rates would be a green plan? If anything, hydro rates should go down, not up. Encourage people to heat electric and drive electric cars (not a overall solution, but probably better than internal combustion engine).

Hydro Ottawa and Hydro On rates are the same. I think it's the extra charges such as delivery that vary, making Hydro Ottawa cheaper, which makes sense as Hyrdo Ottawa's grid is more compact than Hydro One.

https://hydroottawa.com/en/accounts-...idential-rates

https://www.hydroone.com/rates-and-b...cing-and-costs
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