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Old Posted Apr 12, 2016, 11:45 PM
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^ Originally that part of Staples Center served as the front office space for the Clippers on the upper levels (they've since moved on, I believe), and the Fox Sports bar at the ground level. Fox Sports closed up some time ago and there is a memorabilia shop there now, if memory serves me correctly. Honestly, that area has plenty of open plaza space between LA Live and the plaza next to Staples along Chick Hearn Ct, and I don't think we need any more. Rather, all they need to do is activate the space at ground level a little better, and it should be fine.
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Shhhh! watch what you say. Anything concerning a negative opinion of Ava or TCA will launch another retort by CityWatch, including weird out of context and inappropriate cartoons about "assholes" as they relate to opinions. Be careful. LOL
This is not an especially helpful or productive post either. Stop bating other posters. We can do better than this guys.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2016, 1:43 AM
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^ Originally that part of Staples Center served as the front office space for the Clippers on the upper levels (they've since moved on, I believe), and the Fox Sports bar at the ground level. Fox Sports closed up some time ago and there is a memorabilia shop there now, if memory serves me correctly. Honestly, that area has plenty of open plaza space between LA Live and the plaza next to Staples along Chick Hearn Ct, and I don't think we need any more. Rather, all they need to do is activate the space at ground level a little better, and it should be fine.
The Clippers have their own training center in Playa Vista I believe. It's really nice actually.
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This is not an especially helpful or productive post either. Stop bating other posters. We can do better than this guys.
Phil, you're right and I apologize for my post. It was just that Citywatch's earlier post was so damned annoying, and that cartoon was totally uncalled for.
     
     
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^ Originally that part of Staples Center served as the front office space for the Clippers on the upper levels (they've since moved on, I believe), and the Fox Sports bar at the ground level. Fox Sports closed up some time ago and there is a memorabilia shop there now, if memory serves me correctly. Honestly, that area has plenty of open plaza space between LA Live and the plaza next to Staples along Chick Hearn Ct, and I don't think we need any more. Rather, all they need to do is activate the space at ground level a little better, and it should be fine.
As of right now it's fine the way it is because all the activity ends at Staples Center but once Oceanwide Plaza and Circa are built, they'll almost feel like islands onto themselves with the sightline to LA Live blocked. I just think it's more of a psychological barrier, whereas if the space between the two were open, the area would feel like one cohesive district vs 5-6 separate projects. Besides, the corner of Staples Center I was referring to is only a tiny footprint so it's not really creating lots of extra open space, but I doubt AEG will spend the money to redo Staples for this reason, I just wish it was planned out this way to begin with.
     
     
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CIM Group adding new retail, office space to 810 S. Grand Ave

3,000 square feet of retail, 5,500 square feet of office.

     
     
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^ Now if only they could finish the parking garage down the street and start on the Hope tower...
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^ Now if only they could finish the parking garage down the street and start on the Hope tower...
Right?!? At this point I have a hard time believing the tower is stalled for financial reasons.
     
     
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^^^ that place was always empty. I never went but I had friends complain that a sausage and a beer was like 30 bucks. Ah well. Every restaurant is not going to succeed
I checked it out once and enjoyed the food, but never went back for whatever reason. It seems like Bierbeisl was under construction for longer than it was actually open. Hopefully the next place can make use of their build out.
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SouthPark's gonna be packed tonight for Kobe's last game.
     
     
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^ Originally that part of Staples Center served as the front office space for the Clippers on the upper levels (they've since moved on, I believe), and the Fox Sports bar at the ground level. Fox Sports closed up some time ago and there is a memorabilia shop there now, if memory serves me correctly. Honestly, that area has plenty of open plaza space between LA Live and the plaza next to Staples along Chick Hearn Ct, and I don't think we need any more. Rather, all they need to do is activate the space at ground level a little better, and it should be fine.
I think there are offices above. That corner space should be turned into a tavern style outdoor bar that's open on all sides with a bar in the middle
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2016, 10:12 PM
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^ There are most certainly office levels floor 2 and above on that side. I like the idea of an open air bar there. If any city has the ability to do that, it's LA. Or Miami. Or San Diego. Or New Orleans. But you get the idea.
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Phil, you're right and I apologize for my post. It was just that Citywatch's earlier post was so damned annoying, and that cartoon was totally uncalled for.
I don't disagree with you Wilcal and no need to apologize, I think we're all generally pretty cool (this is my favorite thread on the forum).
     
     
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The very busy (with construction) Olympic and Broadway intersection, earlier today
Wow, even with just the construction rising above street level you can already tell what a dramatic effect this is going to have on that block.
     
     
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SouthPark's gonna be packed tonight for Kobe's last game.
Indeed. It took my bus 15 minutes to go from the just south of Pico to Olympic at 4:45. I could've walked that fast. The line to get into staples went down the sidewalk down fig into la live. I've never seen that before.
     
     
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Indeed. It took my bus 15 minutes to go from the just south of Pico to Olympic at 4:45. I could've walked that fast. The line to get into staples went down the sidewalk down fig into la live. I've never seen that before.
Did you see if traffic had any effect on the construction across the street?
     
     
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Did you see if traffic had any effect on the construction across the street?
I was sitting with my back to the construction sites but I doubt there was any significant impact. There was no concrete pout so I imagine it was business as usuall for the most part.
     
     
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DTLA revitalization through lens of the Los Angeles Athletic Club

The narrative of Downtown Los Angeles has survived many twists and turns, and the Los Angeles Athletic Club (LAAC), a twelve-story Beaux-Arts style members-only clubhouse, has witnessed it all. The club, which was founded in 1880 and has been located at 431 West Seventh Street since 1912, is in the second phase of a three-part, multi-million-dollar renovation slated for completion in November. It will soon compete with rising stars like Soho House, which is opening an Arts District location this year, and a new planned club by Est4te Four.

The LACC has certainly survived many cycles of change Downtown. It was around when DTLA, circa 1920, was a booming hub for retail and theatre, when Seventh Street and Broadway was one of the busiest intersections in the entire country. It was around when suburban sprawl hit and the artsy vibe shifted to something of a more corporate choke, with Bunker Hill’s branded towers quieting the once-regal entertainment energy.

It’s still around as the area rises again to embrace the creative class. Theatres, art galleries, restaurants, bars, boutique hotels, retail spaces — hello, Whole Foods — are revitalizing a pocket of Los Angeles that was once discarded. While it may not yet be #Brooklyn, #DTLA is developing an identity that extends beyond the confines of its geographic borders.

The Real Deal sat down with LAAC’s assistant general manager Cory Hathaway, the great-great-grandson of one of the clubhouse’s founding members — and the first groom to marry his bride in the renovated historic space — to chat about the changes in DTLA and what they mean for the club.

The LAAC has seen many cycles of change Downtown. What is different this time around?

The cycles typically last for 25 to 40 years, and in this one we’re really feeling the boom. We’ve always adjusted to the interests and needs of the community here more so than a hotel or restaurant ever could.

How does a club like Soho House expanding to a Downtown location affect LAAC?

Their presence actually helps us. There aren’t a lot of clubs in DTLA that are social-focused for this new downtown creative class. You have the Jonathan Club and the California Club, which are both amazing clubs, but aren’t [appealing] to creative people, like say, a graphic designer. Soho House gets the idea out there that maybe you should join a social club. People then say, “Let me look at Soho House, and then why not look at other clubs?” Soho starts that thinking process. It’s not competition. It’s about where you feel most comfortable.

How many of your members are DTLA residents?

Most of our new members are Downtown residents. Eighth and Grand just opened above Whole Foods and a lot of people have joined the clubhouse from that building. When the whole redevelopment started we began tracking which buildings our members were coming from and how much to justify our future renovations.

When did you see that proof?

The Staples Center was the beginning of the renaissance for DTLA and the community, but we started to take things seriously with the opening of the Standard Downtown. That showcased a boutique hotel working down here as well as proof that a cool bar and restaurant could work. We started renovating about six years ago. When the critical mass of residents reached 30,000 people living in downtown, that was when we were able to say, we can support bigger investment based on a population of people being down here 24/7 vs. the previous 9 to 5. Meanwhile, (we saw developers) take advantage of the adaptive reuse ordinance.

So you saw the development as proof you’d have new members?

It enabled us to justify this three-phase, three-year big renovation. We were at first fully able to justify the start of smaller renovations, first to our guest rooms. That renovation supported the case to then renovate the third floor, but it wasn’t until two years ago that we decided to renovate the fourth and fifth floors and a big chunk of the sixth floors to put in the spa, a barbershop, new locker-rooms, treatment rooms. Our business has doubled since we began renovating.

What development are you most excited about now?

We think the NoMad Hotel across the street and the Freehand Hotel down the street will be an even bigger deal for us than the giant Wilshire Grand project.

Where do you live?

I live in Highland Park, which is a cool area. We live in a mid-century modern house. My wife’s family has a loft Downtown. They live in Temecula but the loft is for their business use, which means they rarely use it. I stay Downtown a lot. The loft is near Pershing Square.

btw, I noticed my name mentioned in a few previous postings, which leads me to say....

The posts in this thread that I favor....or the ones I always prefer....contain at least one of the following: (1) photo updates, (2) news about changes to dtla, (3) descriptions of personal, onsite experiences in dt, such as seeing new changes to the hood, or what a restaurant was like or how busy a new store was, (4) insider rumors or (5) links to or postings of recent stories or vids about dtla.

when posts contain none of those things but instead contain purely personal opinions or the type of very generalized posts that could just as easily be slotted into the dt atlanta, dt SF, dt seattle, dt boston or dt philly threads, that's when this thread becomes too much like a social forum or frivolous chat room.

I drop by here always hoping to see news or updates about dtla. I don't drop by here wanting to know anything about the personalities or eccentricities of ppl who are forumers at SSP.


     
     
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I think there are offices above. That corner space should be turned into a tavern style outdoor bar that's open on all sides with a bar in the middle
You read my mind, I've always thought that would have been a perfect spot to put an open air bar/restaurant with outdoor seating area around it. With Oceanwide and Circa coming, something needs to happen with that specific area and staples center façade facing fig. If not we'll end up with pedestrians activating one side of Fig while the other side sits empty. Something that can easily be changed. I'm not saying gut the entire side of the stadium but AEG needs to figure out a way to activate their side of fig.
     
     
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