Centre Mall -> The Centre on Barton

[Da Warrior]

FYI Zellers centre mall just put up 2 windmills today lol. Not that I even care for that place since it doesn't look like their going to have a footlocker anymore

[crhayes]

Originally Posted by raisethehammer

please find a post of mine where I called another poster stupid. ever.
I've called out some ignorant comments from time to time, as have all of us. If we can't chat like grow-ups then let's shut the whole thing down.
Comadriver beat me to it, but I've been mulling over ending my account here as well.
there's some great people and posters, but then there's others who only come on to start arguments.
Not to mention the whole 'urbanism' 'skyscraper' agenda on this site seems to no longer exist. I'm sure one could crack big box jokes at a big box convention and get treated better than on this site.

You don't need to close your account, just don't continue arguing if it's pissing you off

This forum would be dry without your commentary lol

[Jon Dalton]

I doubt the guy with 8000 posts is going to cancel his account. He'd have serious withdrawal.

[MsMe]

Plus there is the iggy button. I have it used on one person. I won't mention names though. If I don't reply to your posts you will know why.

[fastcarsfreedom]

Participation in the Forum is down significantly by my estimation.

[Dundasguy]

Originally Posted by raisethehammer

please find a post of mine where I called another poster stupid. ever.
I've called out some ignorant comments from time to time, as have all of us. If we can't chat like grow-ups then let's shut the whole thing down.
Comadriver beat me to it, but I've been mulling over ending my account here as well.
there's some great people and posters, but then there's others who only come on to start arguments.
Not to mention the whole 'urbanism' 'skyscraper' agenda on this site seems to no longer exist. I'm sure one could crack big box jokes at a big box convention and get treated better than on this site.

This is a bunch of BS, are you forgetting what you wrote about me 2 weeks ago. It was thankfully deleted when I reported it to the Moderators. I have noticed you belittle almost everyone on this board in one way or another who doesn't share your opinions.

[Millstone]

Not to derail this thread any further, but RTH attacks others via weak attacks on their ideals. Then you try to defend them, but defending common sense is kind of hard, so it's fruitless.

[hmagazine]

So what I'm seeing here is that everyone is right and RTH is wrong?

Wow - these must be some of the same folks who post some really out of whack comments on the Raise the Hammer threads...

If you don't like Cities and uniquely urban topics - stay away! You are just gonna drive yourself nuts...

[realcity]

I just saw this for the first time. I'm speechless... that is... very disappointed. This is another step backwards for that property, first changing from a race track to a mall and now a glorified Power Center. Every new phase was a step backwards from a proper urban, walkable, real city. I would have a bit of respect for it, if the the elevations facing the street had windows and proper frontage. Obviously they don't expect any patrons from the street/sidewalk... only cars.

F(**k this city... and these developers. Why bother? It won't attract new business because it's more car oriented. The same patrons the same busines. I'm certainly not shopping there because of new stucco and pad-site stores. gawddammit

[fastcarsfreedom]

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If you don't like Cities and uniquely urban topics - stay away!

A more accurate and earnest statement would be, "if you don't think the way I think - stay away!" - because what you suggest here is that in order to "like" cities and urban topics - one must think exactly as you do.

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F(**k this city... and these developers. Why bother?

A comment that requires no further dissection--except to say it's unbelievably negative and defeatist.

[hmagazine]

Originally Posted by fastcarsfreedom

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If you don't like Cities and uniquely urban topics - stay away!

A more accurate and earnest statement would be, "if you don't think the way I think - stay away!" - because what you suggest here is that in order to "like" cities and urban topics - one must think exactly as you do.

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F(**k this city... and these developers. Why bother?

A comment that requires no further dissection--except to say it's unbelievably negative and defeatist.

This forum could've been a contender...

[highwater]

Originally Posted by fastcarsfreedom

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If you don't like Cities and uniquely urban topics - stay away!

A more accurate and earnest statement would be, "if you don't think the way I think - stay away!" - because what you suggest here is that in order to "like" cities and urban topics - one must think exactly as you do.

You're being disingenuous. This is an urban forum devoted to all things urban. There is lots of room for differences of opinion on urban issues, but if you prefer the suburbs, and suburban models of development, then this simply isn't the place for you. It's like going on a Japanese flower arranging forum and complaining because no one is talking about scrapbooking.

Originally Posted by fastcarsfreedom

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F(**k this city... and these developers. Why bother?

A comment that requires no further dissection--except to say it's unbelievably negative and defeatist.

What you call negative and defeatist, I call the righteous anger of someone who understands good urban form, cares passionately about his/her CITY, and is sick to death of the ignorance and apathy that produces stunning mediocrities like we see here. Again, if you are content with suburban models of development, this is not the forum for you.

[flar]

continue...

[highwater]

Originally Posted by markbarbera

I have heard rumblings that some of the yet-to-be announced tenants include Winners, a home furnishing store (can't pin the brand down - hearing either Pier 1 or Home Outfitters), PetSmart, Indigo, Starbucks and Michaels. All would be warmly welcomed to the lower city. Can anyone confirm these rumours?

Not likely to be Pier 1. From the 24/7Wallst blog:

"Pier 1's (PIR) shares are on sale for $.50. A little less than a year ago they would have cost $8.25, making this a remarkable write-down. PIR said its Q3 same-store sales would be down as much as 18%. The firm says it has a $325 million credit facility, but the stock market clearly thinks that is inadequate. The company's guidance for the quarter sent shareholders running for the exits. In the last quarter, revenue fell 7% and the company lost $30 million. Pier 1 pulled its guidance because it believes it cannot predict how much the retail market will deteriorate. With $183 million in debt, it won't take much to tip Pier 1 into insolvency. UBS recently cut its price target on the shares."

[LikeHamilton]

The new TD Canada Trust is now open. This is the first of the new buildings to open.

[SteelTown]

Maybe a Home Outfitters? It's part of HBC and with the Bay relocating to Eastgate this could be a way for them to keep a HBC connection to Centre Mall.

[fastcarsfreedom]

Home Outfitters would be a possibility--as would the Winners-owned HomeSense or Quebec-based BouClair Home. In light of the economic crisis I would expect a number of bankruptcy filings/insolvencies come January--many of which may well affect the Canadian market. Pier 1 is clearly one of the companies to keep an eye on as far as failure goes--it would surprise me to see any expansion from them in the near term.

[MsMe]

I feel like we are playing who done it, but we are playing what it's going to be.

Big waiting game indeed.

[matt602]

I can't wait to see how many of those new retailers actually appear. I still want to be surprised by a movie complex or something. So badly needed in this end of the city. People here have to go all the way downtown, up the mountain or to Ancaster to see anything.

[SteelTown]

Take the Red Hill up to the new movie cineplex.