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Chamber lays out wish list for 2007

The Salt Lake group wants the Legislature to put road projects high on its agenda

By Mike Gorrell
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 01/10/2007


To perpetuate Utah's robust economy, the Salt Lake Chamber will encourage the Legislature to invest state revenue surpluses into transportation, education and measures that help businesses control rising health care costs.
"There is nothing more important at this time for our future economic growth," Chamber President Lane Beattie said Wednesday at a news conference outlining the chamber's legislative agenda.
Investing in road-improvement projects is vital to sustaining an economy generating job growth exceeding 5 percent annually, said Beattie and Keith Rattie, the Questar Corp. president now serving as chairman of the chamber's board of governors.
Emphasizing that Utah faces an estimated $5.8 billion worth of needed transportation upgrades by 2015, the chamber officials want lawmakers to go along with Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr.'s budget request for $450 million in new money for highway construction and to supplement that purse with revenue from the state's projected budget surplus.
The chamber also advocates dedicating all tax revenue generated from sales of motor vehicles, parts, and repairs to the transportation budget, along with money from a slow-but-steady increase in motor fuel taxes over the next decade.
Chamber official Lisa Verhenkamp, a vice president with American Express, said the Legislature will be pushed to increase its spending on education. The state's funding support for education has slipped in recent years, she said, and the number of Utahns pursuing college degrees also is declining.
"That's not where we want to be," she said. "New jobs that are being created require post-secondary educations. We're interested in over-investing in education rather than under-investing."
The chamber will lobby for lawmakers to support the governor's call for a 7 percent increase in the weighted pupil unit that determines how much money goes to local school districts. It also backs larger investments in teacher pay, language education, high-tech high schools and engineering and computer-science programs.
In terms of health care, chamber member Clark Ivory said a half dozen bills are being prepared that will help control prices. "As health care becomes more expensive, more businesses drop out of [insurance] programs," said Ivory, a home builder. "If it cuts costs, we're for it. Quality health care goes up if we keep costs down."
Ivory also said the chamber espouses comprehensive immigration reform and supports the continuation of in-state tuition benefits for children of foreigners working in Utah. "It's important to send a positive message to those who came here that they're welcome here," he said.

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The Salt Lake Chamber would like to see an additional $5.8 million spent in the next decade on the following road projects (in order of priority):
* Interstate 15 in Utah County: $2.5 billion
* Mountain View Corridor: $2 billion
* Interstate 80 (State State to 1300 East: $58 million
* Interstate 15 in Davis County: $500 million
* I-15 mitigation projects in Utah County: $285 million
* Washington County road projects: $250 million
* State Road 6 and other statewide upgrades: $282 million
Total: $5.85 billion
     
     
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Don't say that. I'm glad you post it. It's a good project for the most part. It will add tons of jobs for that area and Lagoon will have a near by hotel.
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Not sure if any of you guys know this yet, but the "LETTERS" on the delta center came down as of today. Very sad.
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LDS Church gets OK for parking high-rise
By Rosemary Winters
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 01/11/2007 12:16:33 AM MST

Salt Lake City's Planning Commission voted unanimously Wednesday to allow Property Reserve Inc., the real estate arm of the LDS Church, to exceed a building height requirement for a parking structure.
As part of its $1 billion, City Creek Center project, PRI plans to replace a dilapidated, 7-story parking terrace at 125 E. Social Hall Avenue (between South Temple and 100 South) with an 11-story garage, which would be integrated with another 11-story parking structure already on the site.
Mid-block buildings downtown cannot be taller than 100 feet, but portions of the garage would reach 106 feet and an elevator tower would climb to 124 feet.
Because city code allows an exemption of 116 feet for elevator shafts, the additional height was deemed minor.
PRI representatives expect to begin demolition next month and complete construction in May 2008. At the ground level, space for restaurants, offices or retail is planned.
The new structure will neighbor a planned Harmons Grocery Store. Shoppers from the grocery store and the City Creek Center, along with residents and office tenants, are expected to use the garage's 685 stalls.
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snow snow snow... how's everyone liking winter so far? get ready for the cold! the national weather service has us down for -4 as the low on Monday night. Should be a fun drive home for tonight. I was worried about my fiance so I called home and he never answered, i tried calling later, still no answer. So I called his brother, nope hasn't seen him. Called his work and he left 2 hours ago. I log on here and see he posted stuff about 4pm. Here's a hint men, if it's bad weather and your wife, fiance or girlfriend might be looking for you. ANSWER THE F'N PHONE!! Okay, thanks for letting me vent. Back to the snow...... i hate it.
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snow snow snow... how's everyone liking winter so far? get ready for the cold! the national weather service has us down for -4 as the low on Monday night. Should be a fun drive home for tonight. I was worried about my fiance so I called home and he never answered, i tried calling later, still no answer. So I called his brother, nope hasn't seen him. Called his work and he left 2 hours ago. I log on here and see he posted stuff about 4pm. Here's a hint men, if it's bad weather and your wife, fiance or girlfriend might be looking for you. ANSWER THE F'N PHONE!! Okay, thanks for letting me vent. Back to the snow...... i hate it.



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Post Decision on soccer stadium may come soon.

County committee to discuss concerns during 3 meetings

By Leigh Dethman and Amelia Nielson-Stowell
Deseret Morning News
A deal to fund a Major League Soccer stadium in Sandy could be done in a matter of weeks.
Salt Lake County's Debt Review Committee is scheduled to meet three times within the next 10 days to determine if Real Salt Lake is a worthy business in which to invest public dollars. A decision from the committee could come as soon as Jan. 22.
Both Mayor Peter Corroon and the County Council have said the $30 million deal hinges on the committee's approval.
The committee is scheduled to either make a recommendation or give a status report to the County Council on Tuesday. County treasurer Larry Richardson, who serves as the Debt Review Committee's chairman, said a recommendation likely won't be ready by then, but that doesn't bar the council from making a decision.
"They might have enough information at that point to make up their minds," Richardson said. "They can make whatever decision they want, with or without our advice."
But councilman Marv Hendrickson said the council would not move forward on a stadium funding deal without the committee's stamp of approval.
"No way," Hendrickson said. "It wouldn't be in our best interest. Obviously, you can understand there are a lot of questions that have not yet been answered."
The three scheduled hearings are meant to answer a lot of those questions.
Tops on the list of most members of the committee is how Sandy will come up with the $15 million that the city promised for the $110 million stadium. Real Salt Lake is asking for $30 million in hotel-tax revenue from the county and $15 million in redevelopment-agency dollars from Sandy.
But Sandy Mayor Tom Dolan says those details will be worked out after the county finishes its independent review.
"We haven't even created the CDA (community-development area) yet," Dolan said. "We're still at the same position we've always been at — the money is based on the amount of development Real does on the project. It's dependent on the development itself."
The amount of money the Major League Soccer franchise puts into the project will determine the dollar figure of the CDA. A CDA is a new track of redevelopment-agency legislation that uses only the city's and county's cut of property taxes for a redevelopment project. So far, the $135 million price tag for the first phase of the development, which includes the stadium, a hotel and a broadcast studio, covers a $15 million CDA.
Under a CDA, other taxing entities can opt into the CDA. But Jordan School District officials have already made it clear that they do not want to forgo their cut of property tax dollars for the multimillion-dollar stadium. As for the rest of the taxing entities, most are small, such as the sewer and abatement district, and Dolan said he is sure they will opt in.
Another issue up for debate is that county leaders don't know if they can trust Real's numbers. The team gave the county its business model in December, complete with attendance projections and ticket-sale revenue. Some county leaders believe the predictions are a bit too rosy.
Real Salt Lake owner Dave Checketts admits the team's projections are ambitious, but says he can achieve them.
The county hired a financial consultant to do an independent analysis of Real's business plan. A report from Economics Research Associates is due back Thursday. ERA will likely adjust some of the projections Real made, said Doug Willmore, the county's chief administrative officer.
ERA is expected to present its findings to the Debt Review Committee next Friday.
Another hurdle to the stadium deal is possible environmental contamination on the site. District Attorney Lohra Miller said a portion of the 136-acre site could be polluted by petroleum and debris. Solving that potential problem must be addressed before the county can commit $30 million to the project, she said.
According to a press release Thursday from Real's lawyer, several environmental studies have been completed and prove that "the site is safe."
     
     
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Financial team sets date for meeting on funding RSL says site is not polluted
But county officials have not been allowed to check out the claim
By Christopher Smart
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Article Last Updated: 01/12/2007 12:24:51 AM MST


Salt Lake County's financial team has set aside Jan. 22 for a morning meeting in which it could recommend whether to help fund a Sandy soccer stadium.
But the panelists probably will need more time, according to Debt Review Committee Chairman Larry Richardson, although the County Council has asked for their verdict in one week.
Richardson called such a timetable "awfully optimistic."
In a DRC meeting Thursday, the committee members outlined categories for questions they want answered on everything from Real Salt Lake's collateral and concert projections to debt and demographics when the stakeholders huddle next week. The query could comprise 15 pages, one member said, half-joking.
Representatives from RSL, the county and a firm hired to vet the stadium plan will gather in separate meetings next week.
Sandy officials also are invited but might not attend, Doug Willmore, the county's chief administrative officer, told the group.
"That would be an interesting development," Richardson said.
Parties debating RSL's $110 million public-private stadium project want evidence that Sandy can come up with the $15 million the suburb has pledged. Rumors persist that Sandy may turn to the Legislature - the session begins Monday - for funding assistance.
Real Salt Lake said Thursday that the site of its proposed $110 million soccer stadium in Sandy has been cleaned up and poses no environmental risks.
"The site is safe," said Steven J. Christiansen, a Salt Lake City attorney representing the Major League Soccer team.
But Salt Lake County District Attorney Lohra Miller has not signed off on any remediation efforts on the land near 9400 South west of State Street, where an underground petroleum tank was buried, along with construction debris, and 50-gallon oil drums were stored.
County officials say they have yet to be allowed on the property to conduct an environmental analysis to confirm RSL's statements.
On Tuesday, Miller notified the County Council that an environmental pollution problem could be looming at the site.
But on Thursday afternoon, Christiansen issued a statement noting that in November 2005 the underground storage tank was removed along with the oil drums.
RSL maintains that environmental issues will not stand in the way of private or public funding nor prevent construction. The team hopes to snag $30 million in hotel taxes from the county to help buy land and improve infrastructure for the stadium.
Tests showed "that the area was not contaminated," Christiansen said. "All samples demonstrated concentrations of petroleum below the state of Utah's Tier 1 risk-based closure standards."
Further, environmental consultants ATC Associates Inc. of Salt Lake City drilled up to 50 feet down to sample the construction debris, Christiansen said.
"The test results showed that none of the samples were hazardous," he said in his statement. "There were no organic pollutants or PCBs, and that concentrations of various metals were below EPA's cleanup levels."
Some arsenic was found, Christiansen said, but the concentrations were within the range of naturally occurring levels of the heavy metal in Salt Lake County.
Doug Willmore, the county's chief administrative officer, said Mayor Peter Corroon's office has been seeking information on the cleanup for several months.
"But we haven't received anything," Willmore said.
Corroon's office also has been requesting access to the property for an inspection.
"We haven't been granted that permission," Willmore said.
The county must ensure that no environmental issues linger on the property before public money is spent, said Deputy D.A. Craig Anderson.
"We're trying to complete our due diligence to confirm everything is taken care of," he said.

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Post Cottonwood Mall Mystery

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Redeveloping? Selling? Tearing down? Nobody knows
By Lesley Mitchell
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 01/11/2007 03:34:20 PM MST


HOLLADAY -- Big potholes in the parking lot. Abandoned corridors. Vacant storefronts.
By all appearances, the glory days of 1960s-era Cottonwood Mall are long gone. Rumors that mall owner General Growth Properties is either selling the property or finally moving forward with an ambitious redevelopment plan have gone on for years.
But there are signs something may be happening soon at 4835 S. Highland Drive.
Several tenants say they have been told their leases will not be renewed. Eyeglass provider Lenscrafters vacated the mall on Dec. 30; employees had been telling customers it was because the mall would be closing at some point soon. Other tenants say they expect to be out in early 2007.
Mall management, however, is as vague as ever about the mall's prospects.
"We're actively addressing the future of Cottonwood Mall." said Cottonwood general manager Spence Angerbauer. "But it would be premature to provide any updates."
The uncertainty over the mall's future can be felt at businesses throughout the property, which over the past year has been 30 percent to 40 percent vacant.
In recent years, the mall has become populated with smaller businesses that pay less in rent and have shorter-term leases than larger, national tenants. There are still a number of national tenants, including anchors Macy's and J.C. Penney, and specialty retailers such as Victoria's Secret, but their numbers are fewer.
Night Flight Comics manager Mimi Cruz is one of many tenants who would like to know what is going on. The store, which has been in the mall nearly 20 years, has a lease that is up on March 31.
Like other tenants, Cruz said she's heard something may be happening. But "mall management won't tell us what is going on," she said.
One of the smaller tenants with short-term leases is the nonprofit Intermountain Therapy Animals, which occupies an office on the mall's largely vacant second floor. The company trains animals to help people who can benefit from a visit by an animal.
"The great thing about being here is that the rent has been so affordable," said Melissa Byrd of Intermountain Therapy. But she said the organization, which shares the second floor with Furburbia, the Humane Society's pet-adoption center, has been told it might have to leave early in 2007.
So why would a well-known and well-capitalized mall owner such as General Growth Properties allow a mall in such a desirable area to struggle for so long? Why has it not embarked on redevelopment sooner? And why is it saying nothing about its plans now?
General Growth may have had no other choice but to let the mall limp along for years, said Darrell Tate, a retail specialist with commercial brokerages Commerce CRG in Salt Lake City.
Like others in the business, Tate has heard for years that the mall will be redeveloped.
One explanation as to why that hasn't happened is that "it's very complicated and it takes a long time to get to a point where you can redevelop an existing mall," Tate said. "People have leases in place, and you need to work through all those things. It's much more challenging to redevelop an existing project than to build a brand-new project."
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is familiar with that difficulty. It is emptying ZCMI Center Mall, Crossroads Mall and Key Bank Tower in downtown Salt Lake City to make way for a new development called City Creek Center. Complicating these efforts are numerous tenants with long-term leases.
General Growth presumably also would have to work out how the redevelopment would take place -- would the mall be vacated, demolished and rebuilt, or would some stores remain during a less-involved renovation? What if a tenant with a long-term lease, such as Macy's, has demands that force General Growth to go back to the drawing board?
Representatives from Macy's and J.C. Penney declined to comment on the mall's future. A Macy's spokeswoman would say only that the retailer plans to stay put.
Bryson Duncan, a retail specialist with NAI Utah, said Cottonwood Mall's location and ownership are big factors in why the mall has not yet been redeveloped.
"It's one of the most valuable pieces of real estate in Utah," he said. "But it may not be the best place for a shopping mall."
Unlike most other malls in Utah, Cottonwood is not next to a freeway. And with competing properties in close proximity, Duncan said redevelopment is a bit tricky.
"It has to be something different and unique to attract customers who can easily go somewhere else," he said.
One of those other places is Fashion Place Mall, 6191 S. State Street. General Growth also owns it after acquiring the center several years ago as part of an acquisition of another company. Fashion Place is one of Utah's -- and probably the West's -- most successful malls.
General Growth undoubtedly is concerned with not hurting Fashion Place -- less than 6 miles away from Cottonwood -- as it redevelops the Holladay mall.
While General Growth weighs its options, the rumors of what will happen to Cottonwood persist -- and grow. One rumor is that the mall will be leveled and an office complex built in its place. Or a car lot. Or a theater complex. Lately, there's talk of a new Costco and Target.
"There's not a week that goes by now that I don't get two or three questions about [what is happening to] the mall," said Randy Fitts, Holladay city manager. "We'll have to have a special celebration when they decide what they are going to do."

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Lowe's is almost finished and Wal-Mart is set for a February opening. New roads are going in too.

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Construction continues on Wal-Mart and Lowe's in Sandy.


The gravel-pit controversy in the southeast Salt Lake Valley community of Sandy is fast becoming a memory.
In a matter of weeks, the southeast corner of the once-protested 107-acre commercial and residential development is expected to be bustling with customers.
Lowe's Home Improvement Warehouse - one of two big-box retailers emerging at the site at 9000 South and 1000 East in Sandy - opened in December, just in time for the Christmas push.
Wade Williams, retail-development director for developer The Boyer Co., said people once opposed to the project are already approaching him with positive anticipation.
"Change is hard, and we understand that," Williams said. "The good news is, we've taken what was an industrial eyesore for the city, and, I think, it's going to turn into a very nice project."
On the heels of Lowe's opening comes the Wal-Mart Supercenter, which appears to be headed for an early spring 2007 opening.
Wal-Mart spokeswoman Karianne Fallow said protests from Sandy residents over the big-box store have died down.
"It's been relatively quiet; we haven't seen a lot of aftermath responses," Fallow said. "In fact, I've received personal calls about how excited people are."
Construction on the building should be finished by the end of the year. Then workers will stock the store and shoot for a February or March grand opening, Fallow said.
"Around that same time, you will have some of the Village shopping area too," said Nick Duerksen, Sandy's assistant director of community development.
The Village shopping area will bring a string of smaller retailers, fashion shops and restaurants along the east side of the road that connects 9000 South with 9400 South along 1000 East.
Included in those shops is a Fabulous Freddies, an all-in-one gasoline station, convenience store, coffee shop, lube center and car wash.
Williams said other retailers will be named closer to opening dates.
Meanwhile, Garbett Homes is making progress on the 228 town homes that will be part of the development's residential component.
Sales Manager Jacob Ballstaedt said the infrastructure is finished for all the homes, and the foundation is in for the first 40 units.
"Because they're mostly pre-sold, we're just going to build them as quickly as we can," Ballstaedt said. "Hopefully we'll have the first ones done by March, with the last ones [finished] by late summer of 2008."
There are only 15 or 20 of the 228 homes still available for purchase, Ballstaedt said.
An additional 90 rental units also are slated for the site.
Developers promise the recent snarling of traffic along the 9000 South-9400 South connector road will soon come to an end too.
The road widening is nearing completion and traffic signals will soon be operating again.
"When it's all done, it will be much better," Duerksen said.
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MURRAY, Rehabbing theater jump-starts renovation

By Todd Hollingshead
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Desert Star Playhouse, seen at dusk. The theater has helped revitalize Murray's historic downtown.

A sold-out show Friday night at Desert Star Playhouse.

The Murray playhouse is proud of its casual atmosphere - so proud they'd take ties from overdressed patrons and display them on the ceiling.


When Mike Todd opened The Desert Star Playhouse on State Street in Murray, he had three employees and a handful of actors.
Nearly 20 years later, that staff has ballooned to 150 people and the casts for the musical melodramas are full of veteran thespians.
The dinner-show venue - where audiences can gobble up pizza or snarf down buffet goodies while jeering villains and cheering heroes in spirited spoofs on stage - attracts season-ticket holders from as far as Idaho and Nevada.
"It's a great kind of unique entertainment venue that just takes on its own personality," said Murray Cultural Arts Director Mary Ann Kirk.
That playhouse personality, with both a cabaret and dinner theater, has been the foundation for satisfying audiences for the past two decades.
But perhaps even more impressive is the foundation the destination playhouse has become for Murray's historic downtown-restoration effort.
Barely five years ago, Todd engineered a full-scaled renovation of his theater and two neighboring buildings to kick-start the restoration project.
Millions of Todd's dollars, boosted by grants and loans from the city, turned the east side of the 4800 South State Street block into a downtown gem.
"When we first moved here, this portion of historic downtown Murray was a pretty run-down place,"

Todd recalled. "[The restoration] has been very successful, but is it finished? No; it has a long way to go."
A few counterparts on the west side of State - including Day Murray Music - already have followed suit, and now others are considering the same.
City officials are thrilled with the momentum that Todd has generated.
"It made people believers that there is a future for downtown historic Murray," Mayor Dan Snarr said. "I always have just been in awe of what his vision was."
Todd credits the city with playing an essential role in the effort.
In addition to providing grants and loans, city officials last year adopted a historic-overlay district that establishes guidelines for rehabilitating historic buildings and constructing new structures in the area.
The city also was key in successfully petitioning for the block to be included on the National Register of Historic Places. The 20-acre area - bounded roughly by 4800 South, Vine Street, Clark Street and Center Street - was added in 2005.
"[Mayor] Dan Snarr and the City Council have got completely behind the effort," Todd said. "They've been major contributors. Without them, it never would have happened."
And as Todd prepares for the 2007 season of melodramas and comedies, the city is working to get more players to the restoration table.
Snarr believes the future of the historic block looks bright.
"There are some major out-of-state developers that have caught the vision of developing the whole west side of State Street back to the railroad tracks," Snarr said.
As with all good things, it doesn't happen overnight. Just as his Desert Star Playhouse took years of hard work to become a destination spot, Todd knows Murray's historic downtown will need time and care.
"It's an ongoing process," he said. "There is still a lot to be done. It takes decades to do a complete restoration."
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Mall mystery
Redeveloping? Selling? Tearing down? Nobody knows
By Lesley Mitchell
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 01/11/2007 03:34:20 PM MST


HOLLADAY -- Big potholes in the parking lot. Abandoned corridors. Vacant storefronts.
By all appearances, the glory days of 1960s-era Cottonwood Mall are long gone. Rumors that mall owner General Growth Properties is either selling the property or finally moving forward with an ambitious redevelopment plan have gone on for years.
Bryson Duncan, a retail specialist with NAI Utah, said Cottonwood Mall's location and ownership are big factors in why the mall has not yet been redeveloped.
"It's one of the most valuable pieces of real estate in Utah," he said. "But it may not be the best place for a shopping mall."
Unlike most other malls in Utah, Cottonwood is not next to a freeway. And with competing properties in close proximity, Duncan said redevelopment is a bit tricky.
"It has to be something different and unique to attract customers who can easily go somewhere else," he said.
While General Growth weighs its options, the rumors of what will happen to Cottonwood persist -- and grow. One rumor is that the mall will be leveled and an office complex built in its place. Or a car lot. Or a theater complex. Lately, there's talk of a new Costco and Target. "
As someone who owned a store in this miserable mall for 5 years, I vote that they tear it down. Price Development, the previous owners, didn't know what to do with this place. They held it together with duct tape and chewing gum. It is in a high income area, but the mall is old, run down, and creepy.

I'm not a fan of replacing it with a strip mall. There are enough of those north and west of Cottonwood Mall, but a walking outdoor mall that goes up, not out would work.

The mall is actually on a small footprint with no room to expand out. At one time they were looking at adding a complete 2nd story onto the mall. (Not just that waste of a second story on half of one side, but I think Price determined that it wouldn't be worth it.) IMO, Price development knew this was a waste of a mall and didn't want to tear it down and rebuild.

When they do tear this down, I'll take the day off just to go watch the wrecking ball destroy this place.
     
     
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LOL, That's about right.
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Oh good the walmart that nobody wants is almost finish. I would like to see those housing units go in. That I like. And green space is a most.
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Oh good the walmart that nobody wants is almost finish. I would like to see those housing units go in. That I like. And green space is a must.
It's 4:30, does someone know where you are?

Gravel Pit into a Wal-Mart. Or is that Wal-Mart into a Gravel Pit? I think they sell gravel pits on isle 6731.

Not a big Wal-Mart fan, but something needed to be done to this gravel pit. I would have liked a different development here, but money talks and Sandy is all about $$$.

Do you think that the Stadium would have the problems it is experiencing if it had higher sales tax revenues? Because cities in Utah get most of their tax money from sales tax, support lags for developments that aren't sales tax oriented.

How much money do we pour into a zoo with fewer visitors than will attend a ReAL game? We spend millions each year on ZAP, Zoo's, Arts, and Parks, and give money away to build Wal-marts, etc. because the retail components generate huge taxes for cities.
     
     
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Smiling Bob, I love reading your posts. Excellant comments on the Cottonwood Mall.
     
     
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sounds like Patrick dry goods condos/lofts are selling nicely...got this e-mail today...


Two weeks have passed since our last email.

IN THAT TIME WE HAVE REACHED 50% IN PRE-SELLING THE PATRICK DRY GOODS
CONDOMINIUM PROJECT IN SALT LAKE CITY!

The project has received a lot of attention and acclaim and we could not be
happier.

We are in the process of building a model home. The framing will be
complete by Monday, January 15th. The model will give potential buyers a
good feel for the 3-dimensional space of each unit. I have previewed the
model and its going to be great!

On Monday, we will install illuminated window dressings on the main floor to
announce the project to the general public. So far we have been marketing
mostly to those on our interest list. Once the public is informed we expect
to sell the remaining units quickly.

Our website www.patrickdrygoods.com is more complete than it was when we
last contacted you. We invite you to take a look.

If you have interest in the project, please give me a call.

Emily Robbins, Marketing Coordinator
     
     
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I've always loved this old beauty and it's handsome facade. I hope that it's success will generate a lot more in new construction of that same vintage element along that corridor and throughout downtown. While I like much of the new condo stock coming on line, I would also like to see a strong effort to build more facade's in the authentic old style. And that would mean right down to the same patina fabrication of the brick.


Decker-Patrick Drygoods 1914


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