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Old Posted Oct 25, 2019, 3:13 AM
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Not sure how high the reward is. NFL salaries have a huge range, and most of the people getting the concussions are the guys up front making the lowest amount of money and lasting the fewest years in the league. I can also imagine that not a lot of those players have the money management skills to make that league minimum salary last.
Next to the QB, the Left Tackle is usually the highest paid player on the team because his play is crucial in protecting the QB. And its not unheard of to see an offensive lineman playing for a dozen years. They are not the fools the stereotype paints them out to be. The winner of the Smartest Canadian was an offensive lineman for the Hamilton Tiger-Cats. There is a lineman for the KC Chiefs who is studying to become a doctor and he's from Quebec.

The burnout players are usually D-backs and Receivers. They have the shortest careers and the most devastating injuries.
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Next to the QB, the Left Tackle is usually the highest paid player on the team because his play is crucial in protecting the QB. And its not unheard of to see an offensive lineman playing for a dozen years. They are not the fools the stereotype paints them out to be. The winner of the Smartest Canadian was an offensive lineman for the Hamilton Tiger-Cats. There is a lineman for the KC Chiefs who is studying to become a doctor and he's from Quebec.
Peter Dyakowski, who recently lost his bid for Parliament, won the title of Canada's Smartest Person, on a CBC show, was a TiCat lineman. Laurent Duvernay Tardif of the Chiefs (formerly McGill) is now an MD. He was denied the privilege of having MD after his name on the back of his Chief's jersey by the NFL. At the time, his last contract was one of the more lucrative amongst NFL linemen.

In the CFL, Canadian offensive lineman are well remunerated as compared to most players (well above the average)
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That's a very unexpected finding.
Not really, because there is an agenda involved to not let the real story out about why you only hear about football and hockey as the concussion sports.
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It does seem as though, at least in Winnipeg, that a good number of offensive linemen remain prominent in the community after retirement... Chris Walby, Obby Khan, Lyle Bauer, Chris Cvetkovic, to name some of the most obvious examples. Gene Makowsky comes to mind in SK too.


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Not really, because there is an agenda involved to not let the real story out about why you only hear about football and hockey as the concussion sports.
So what is this nefarious agenda?
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It does seem as though, at least in Winnipeg, that a good number of offensive linemen remain prominent in the community after retirement... Chris Walby, Obby Khan, Lyle Bauer, Chris Cvetkovic, to name some of the most obvious examples. Gene Makowsky comes to mind in SK too.

The commissioner of the CFL himself is a former lineman, is he not?
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The commissioner of the CFL himself is a former lineman, is he not?
Yup, former Eskimo OL. Another former OL there, Hector Pothier, is pretty well the face of the Eskimos Alumni.
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I think there's some potential for the evolution of football to change course back towards a rugby style of game. Not that the concussion issue isn't a problem in rugby as well, it is, but you see a lot less of those big big impacts. But I'd be curious to see what the removal of helmets, and what rules changes would need to accompany that, would look like.
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You have got to see this. Full video here

Canada captures Olympic men's field hockey berth with dramatic shootout win over Ireland
Captain Scott Tupper converts last-gasp penalty stroke to force hectic finish
Devin Heroux CBC Sports Oct 27, 2019

For a brief second, it looked as though Canada's Olympic men's field hockey dreams were dashed.

The clock showed zeroes, the Irish players were celebrating, and the Canadians were hanging their heads. Their hard-fought comeback to tie the two-game series in West Vancouver fell short — or so it seemed.


In a dramatic plot twist, the umpires awarded Canada a penalty stroke after an agonizing video review – they deemed Canada's Jamie Wallace was taken down in the scoring zone.

Captain Scott Tupper, playing in his 307th game for the Red Caribou, stepped up under immense pressure with a chance to tie the two game-series at 6-6 and force a shootout. He delivered like he has so many times in his career.

The goal sent the crowd of more than 2,000 people into a frenzy and gave the Canadians new life. A five-player shootout awaited.

Then for the second time Sunday afternoon it looked as though Canada's Olympic dreams were over.

Ireland bolted out to a 3-1 lead in the shootout. Canada needed to score on their last two shots and have goalkeeper David Carter stop Ireland's last two shooters. The Red Caribou delivered on both counts.

The drama had ratcheted up another level as the game turned to sudden-death shots. The Irish scored first. Canada tied it again. On the seventh shooter, the game was decided. After Ireland missed, the stage was set for Adam Froese to clinch an Olympic spot for Canada.

As the crowd held its collective breath, Froese danced around the circle, stickhandling the ball wildly before calmly striking it into the back of the net. He threw his stick in the air. The Canadian team blasted toward him. The crowd erupted in a red-and-white celebration.

Canada found its way to the Olympics in the most improbable fashion.

Celebration to remember

"It's unbelievable. No real words for it. It's amazing," Tupper said with tears in his eyes. "Obviously, we weren't in the best spot after yesterday. We were feeling pretty down. You never know what's going to happen. For the guys to perform in the shootout is unbelievable. This is surreal."

Canada lost Game 1 on Saturday 5-3 to the Irish. The team's 3-1 victory in Game 2 forced the shootout.

The victory was reminiscent of Canada's qualifying game four years ago to earn a spot at the Games in Rio. They were also down 3-1 in the shootout to New Zealand and found a way back. Carter was also in the net for that game – he's 7-0 in shootouts for Canada.

"We just love the pressure. I love facing guys one-on-one," he said. "That's the first time I've done that, just come in for the shootout. Everyone had my back. The crowd support was incredible."

Antoni Kindler was the goalkeeper for Canada throughout the game and made a scintillating save late to keep their hopes alive. Then shootout specialist Carter took over.

"Every time we go into a shootout we're pretty confident we can come out on top," Carter said

After the victory, the Canadian players jumped up and down in the middle of the field, hugging each other. Fans screamed and cheered as the players continued to celebrate.

Then the team made their way around the field, saluting the home crowd and hugging family and friends along the way. Fans drove their cars by the stadium honking their horns. Many in the program called this two-game series the most important two matches ever on Canadian soil — and they didn't disappoint.

"I might cry," said Froese. "Honestly it couldn't have been a better place to do this. Family. Friends. It's been a long four years. We've worked hard."

'Beautiful day'

The party spilled into the beer gardens alongside Rutledge Field. Players were still wearing their uniforms more than an hour after the end of the game, drinking beer and chanting with Canadian supporters.

"It's just a beautiful day in West Van," Carter said. "We're going back to the Olympics."

The Olympic berth means Field Hockey Canada is going to back-to-back Summer Games for only the second time in the program's history; the only other instance came in 1984 and 1988.

For coach Paul Bundy, it means putting the sometimes-overlooked version of hockey on the map in Canada.

"To qualify for the Olympics grows our game. It brings us together as a team," he said. "There are good things ahead to happen for field hockey in Canada."

It's not the way the coach or any Canadian player imagined qualifying for the Olympics, but the Red Caribou carved out a memorable moment in Canadian sports lore on a brilliantly sunny Sunday in late October.

"It's just an amazing way to qualify for the Olympics," Bundy said. "We're not a very big sport in Canada but we have a small community who support us. Whoever says our game is boring they should watch this."

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Next to the QB, the Left Tackle is usually the highest paid player on the team because his play is crucial in protecting the QB. And its not unheard of to see an offensive lineman playing for a dozen years. They are not the fools the stereotype paints them out to be. The winner of the Smartest Canadian was an offensive lineman for the Hamilton Tiger-Cats. There is a lineman for the KC Chiefs who is studying to become a doctor and he's from Quebec.

The burnout players are usually D-backs and Receivers. They have the shortest careers and the most devastating injuries.
I'm sure he is a smart guy however, Smartest Canadian was a game show with the typical problem solving puzzles of other reality game shows. It means nothing.
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I'm sure he is a smart guy however, Smartest Canadian was a game show with the typical problem solving puzzles of other reality game shows. It means nothing.
I was answering this person claim about linemen, and using Dyakowski as an example of not being an idiot.

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Not sure how high the reward is. NFL salaries have a huge range, and most of the people getting the concussions are the guys up front making the lowest amount of money and lasting the fewest years in the league. I can also imagine that not a lot of those players have the money management skills to make that league minimum salary last.
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I'm confused, the full video shows a game ending 5-3 for Ireland?

Edit: Nevermind, two leg game. I skimmed past that part.
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I'm confused, the full video shows a game ending 5-3 for Ireland?
Sorry, my bad, as the kids used to say. I posted the video of the first game by mistake. Full video here of the second game

Gotta feel for Ireland, kinda reminded me a tad of the '72 Olympic basketball final

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I was answering this person claim about linemen, and using Dyakowski as an example of not being an idiot.

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Not sure how high the reward is. NFL salaries have a huge range, and most of the people getting the concussions are the guys up front making the lowest amount of money and lasting the fewest years in the league. I can also imagine that not a lot of those players have the money management skills to make that league minimum salary last.
I was also talking about US players, (since the comment was about making a boatload of money, that's obviously NFL, the vast majority of whom are American). I think a large number of them do qualify as "not the brightest". College isn't an education for many of them, it's all about athletics, and many of them have no idea how to save their "big money" to last beyond the few years they will play and earn it. Some stats say 1 in 6 former NFL players goes bankrupt after leaving the game.
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So they're holding regular season college basketball at the ACC/SBA soon. First regular season games in Canada for this level I would imagine. It's a triple header. The biggest teams would be Tennessee and Washington.

The prices are $83.50 and it's only lower bowl. On the cost slider I see $61 but not sure if there actually were tix for that price and are sold out or not.

Regardless, just like that Winnipeg fiasco, promoters asking way too much again. I'd rather see a full house than swaths of empty seats. Maybe they do well and prove my guess wrong, but prices seem out of whack.

The Duke preseason games last year were definitely more reasonable, even if just one game at at time.
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^^^ AFAIK this level has already been played in Vancouver. Maybe at the convention centre?

Edit: Yes see the "Vancouver Showcase". 8 mens and 8 womens last November at the convention centre.
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Interesting. UW there made a lot sense. Wonder why theyre all the way in TO. Because their next game is back home.

Also wonder how much tix were last year and what kind of crowds they got.

This weekend I’m going to Kentucky Louisville and Indiana and the cost for six total tix will be cheaper than one here. Well in USD without fees

I went to every International Bowl at the dome and and those were very affordable
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I see tickets started at $32 but cant find any attendance figures.
I wonder if SFU being an NCAA Div II school helped?
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X games Calgary pretty much cancelled with shithead Kenny in the Premiers Office, this is really too bad as Canada does quite well in winter extreme sports.
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All-America Watch: Oklahoma State's Hubbard nation's top RB
CLIFF BRUNT AP Sports Writer November 2nd 2019

STILLWATER, Okla. (AP) — Oklahoma State running back Chuba Hubbard's wildly successful season has made a lifelong issue a much smaller problem.

For as far back as Hubbard can remember, folks have struggled to pronounce his first name. Most say CHUB-uh. He even heard someone throw his first and last name together and come up with Choohubbard.

For the record, it's pronounced CHOO-buh. And since he leads the nation in rushing and all-purpose yards, people are finally starting to get it right.

"They are trying," he said. "As long as they are trying, I get it. As long as they are saying my name some type of way, I guess it's a good thing."

He is giving people plenty of reasons to practice. He has rushed for 1,381 yards this season in eight games, an average of 172.6 yards per contest, and ranks second nationally with 16 rushing touchdowns heading into Saturday's home game against TCU. It's been enough to draw attention from former Oklahoma State and NFL star running back Barry Sanders, a Heisman Trophy winner.

"He congratulated me on how the season's going," Hubbard said. "I would have never thought in a million years that Barry Sanders would be congratulating me. It's cool."

Hubbard has approached some of Sanders' numbers. He rushed for a career-high 296 yards in a win over Kansas State, one of three games this season in which he has rushed for at least 200 yards.

"He is a great football player," Kansas State coach Chris Klieman said. "He can run through arm tackles, he gets his shoulders squared and then he'll outrun you. He is a dynamite player."

Against Tulsa, Hubbard broke loose for a 75-yard touchdown run on the first play from scrimmage. He blew past defenders who appeared to have an angle on him and crossed the goal line 10 seconds into the game. He finished the day with 256 yards and three touchdowns. He pounded out 171 yards on 32 carries against undefeated Baylor.

"Hubbard is amazing," Baylor coach Matt Rhule said. "You never know how good someone is until you play them. He was hard to tackle."

It's quite a jump for a young man who grew up playing Canadian football. Hubbard hails from Sherwood Park, near Edmonton, Alberta. While many of his friends played hockey, he drifted toward track and football and competes in both at Oklahoma State. The benefits of track were also touted by Wisconsin star running back Jonathan Taylor , a member of the AP preseason All-America team presented by Regions Bank.

Hubbard never saw being from Canada, or anything else, as a limitation.

"For me, there's a lot of talented Canadian football players out there," he said. "I think that's often overlooked and that's one of the big reasons I'm proud that I came here, and proud that I'm showing Canadians can ball. It's different football, but at the end of the day, it's still football."


Though he watched the Canadian Football League's Edmonton Eskimos as a kid, he also grew up admiring NFL running back Adrian Peterson because of his durability and explosiveness.

"When I used to watch him I used to think, 'That's a workhorse,'" Hubbard said. "When he's out there, he's like a bull — who can run a 4.3 (40-yard dash). Watching that guy, that was my hero. I always wanted to be like him."

He is like Peterson in some ways. He has breakaway speed, which has allowed him to average 6.4 yards per carry. As for durability, he averages 27 carries per game. His powerful 6-foot-1, 207-pound frame handles punishment well— and he dishes it out, too.

"A lot of people when they first saw me here — really my whole life playing football — they just see me as that fast guy," he said. "I got involved with football because of the contact. I could have just stayed with track and ran but I like hitting and I like running through people. That's just stuff I love."
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The prices are $83.50 and it's only lower bowl. On the cost slider I see $61 but not sure if there actually were tix for that price and are sold out or not.
Do people know they can watch their actual home teams play for twelve or thirteen bucks? (Varsity Blues and Rams basketball ticket prices, respectively)
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