Canada's 50 Tallest Proposals

[Chadillaccc]

Really?! That's awesome!

[rbt]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Really?! That's awesome!

No, no it's not.

It's a moving walkway because it's a great place to stop and watch the fish at most aquariums. This is to prevent you from stopping to watch the fish as that reduces customer turnover.

Even after this opens I will probably still go to Lisbon for my aquarium fix. Lots of places to sit (it's encouraged) and the animals are very healthy.

[Ramako]

Originally Posted by rbt

No, no it's not.

It's a moving walkway because it's a great place to stop and watch the fish at most aquariums. This is to prevent you from stopping to watch the fish as that reduces customer turnover.

Even after this opens I will probably still go to Lisbon for my aquarium fix. Lots of places to sit (it's encouraged) and the animals are very healthy.

Not sure where you're getting any of this from. From everything we've heard, you'll be able to step off the moving walkway along any point of the tunnel.

Regardless, when I'm feeling the urge to visit an aquarium, I think I'd rather pay $20 to get into the aquarium twenty minutes from my house rather than $2000+ to go all the way to Portugal. But to each his own...

[rbt]

Originally Posted by Ramako

Not sure where you're getting any of this from. From everything we've heard, you'll be able to step off the moving walkway along any point of the tunnel.

A general distaste for their Tennessee location, unfortunately. Aside from Atlanta, that was one of the pushiest (staff, not by mechanized design) aquariums I've been to. If they were crowded then I could understand but it was pretty empty that day.

[caltrane74]

The site of 100 Adelaide West - Straight Ahead

[Chadillaccc]

Herald Square site 99% cleared. Photo taken 10 min ago by me. At first it looked like they had started excavation a bit, they still may have, but I'm not certain.


IMG_1090 by Chadillaccc, on Flickr

IMG_1089 by Chadillaccc, on Flickr

[Fatality]

I sure hope those new renders of the hotels for oxford place are place holders. The previous pictures showed something much grander than the boxes shown. The residential towers look amazing as it always had. Exciting but lets hope they don't disappoint us.

[koops65]

Aren't the hotels part of a package deal with the casino? Which is anything but certain...

[rbt]

Originally Posted by koops65

Aren't the hotels part of a package deal with the casino? Which is anything but certain...

Probably, but buildings in that location of similar height are not tied to the casino.

If it isn't a hotel then it might be a 3rd office building, a pair of condominiums, or even a high-end rental.

If GO builds a Union West between Spadina and Bathurst on Front then that location would have the demand for 3 large office towers to be feasible as it sits at the midpoint between the 2 union stations.


If the casino proposal is rejected, Oxford is not going to start corn farming at that location or build a walmart surrounded by parking. It will be something else of similar density.

[DrNest]

Originally Posted by rbt

If GO builds a Union West between Spadina and Bathurst on Front then that location would have the demand for 3 large office towers to be feasible as it sits at the midpoint between the 2 union stations.

Is that likely? I've not heard anything about it. (Which obviously doesn't mean to say it won't happen). It would be useful to have a GO station around that location. I also think it would be useful to have another one east of Union around Cherry St. That would make access to the Distillery district and surrounding areas much easier for those coming in on the GO.

[Innsertnamehere]

if it does happen, it won't be for another 20 years. I also find the other option of an underground tunnel under union for the lakeshore line to be more likely.

[rbt]

Originally Posted by DrNest

Is that likely? I've not heard anything about it. (Which obviously doesn't mean to say it won't happen).

It was proposed as a solution to Union Stations 2020 capacity problem. The $1B of work underway at Union today is only good for about 5 to 10 years worth of growth.

The Union West proposal was combined with the DRL with the intention of having passengers transfer to the DRL to get to the King & Bay area.

I'm not a big fan as I prefer to tunnel Lake Shore instead.

[rbt]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

if it does happen, it won't be for another 20 years. I also find the other option of an underground tunnel under union for the lakeshore line to be more likely.

Oxford is one of the least aggressive office developers in Toronto. They don't seem to mind sitting on non-optimal land uses for several decades particularaly when they are currently profitable properties giving then a 7% annual return like the convention center is.

Build out of the convention center proposal will take 10 years at a fast pace (lots of demolition/replacement of existing structure with customers to serve at the same time and 30+ years at a typical Oxford pace.

I believe Waterpark Place III (under construction) is Oxford's first new office tower in Toronto in a long time.

[vegeta_skyline]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

if it does happen, it won't be for another 20 years. I also find the other option of an underground tunnel under union for the lakeshore line to be more likely.

The Union West option is the more likely measure and construction for it could start around 2025.

[caltrane74]

I assume Union West is only possible with an Electrified Lakeshore line?

[rbt]

Originally Posted by caltrane74

I assume Union West is only possible with an Electrified Lakeshore line?

No actually. Union West is the alternative to electrification of Lake Shore. Georgetown (or Milton) and Barrie lines would be terminated there so that Lake Shore and other lines can take more surface platform space at Union.

Union West does depend heavily on the DRL being built.

Interestingly, DRL West + Union West is about the same price as Lake Shore tunnel + electrification (but little capacity boost) of Lake Shore.

Whatever option is chosen it will need to start construction in about 2016 to prevent Union from being a bottleneck in GOs growth.

[Innsertnamehere]

Electrification doesn't effect it. steve munro wrote a good piece about it here:

http://stevemunro.ca/?p=5797

Essentially because of the layout of the tracks at (and before) Union, even if you do through lines it still takes 10 minutes to get in and out of union. (not 10 minutes spent on the platforms, but 10 minutes before another train can pull in) if you give each line 2 platforms, it is reduced to 5 minutes. But the problem with that is that we only have 14 platforms, but would need 19 for that scenario. Electrification really does nothing other than allow the trains to go in a hypothetical Lakeshore tunnel. GOs planned solution is to either:
i) build a new station at the bathurst yards for the Kitchener and Barrie lines
ii) build a lakeshore tunnel

each comes with it's detractors. The tunnel would cost $1.3 BILLION dollars to construct, but the Bathurst Yard station requires a transfer to a DRL that is really better off being routed away from the Rail tracks.

Both the Lakeshore electrification and the DRL (Probably not routing to the Bathurst yard) are going to be funded under the transit tax though, so I would expect the Lakeshore tunnel to be what they go with.

[Coldrsx]

Sky Garden, Edmonton - rumored to be 50 floors and 545' now (formerly the Edmontonian).


http://www.bcmdevelopments.com/images/BCM_Developments/img_main_slider_edmontonian.jpg

[TallBob]

Maybe Edmonton will beat Calgary to have the first 500' residential tower in Alberta!

[Chadillaccc]

Wow another 160+ meter proposal for Edmonton?!? That's awesome. Hopefully we'll be seeing a peeked skyline in Edy by 2020!