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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 3:35 AM
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London becomes the 10th CMA to have firm RT plans. Quebec not having anything planned is looking odder and odder.

Saskatoon is likely to join with 18 months and Victoria always seems to be a year away.

After that Niagara Falls and Halifax are the biggest metros without RT plans.
I think Saskatoon has already announced intention to build LRT, but not until after they've seen how successful their BRT network is. Not sure if their BRT is UC yet.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 3:41 AM
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I think Saskatoon has already announced intention to build LRT, but not until after they've seen how successful their BRT network is. Not sure if their BRT is UC yet.
Saskatoon LRT is over 20 years away.

The BRT is going to get the go ahead by council Feb 2016. Engineering work should be completed winter 2017. Hopefully construction starts spring 2017.
     
     
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London becomes the 10th CMA to have firm RT plans. Quebec not having anything planned is looking odder and odder.

Saskatoon is likely to join with 18 months and Victoria always seems to be a year away.

After that Niagara Falls and Halifax are the biggest metros without RT plans.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 3:51 AM
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London becomes the 10th CMA to have firm RT plans. Quebec not having anything planned is looking odder and odder.

Saskatoon is likely to join with 18 months and Victoria always seems to be a year away.

After that Niagara Falls and Halifax are the biggest metros without RT plans.
Quebec has no plans?

http://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/actuali...t-un-service-rapide-par-bus-de-38-km.php
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 4:05 AM
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Unfortunately, Quebec City's mayor has zero vision for public transit.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 4:27 AM
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The Niagara falls CMA is really a bunch of smaller centres that are located very close to each other, its not going to need LRT any time soon.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 4:28 AM
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Unfortunately, Quebec City's mayor has zero vision for public transit.
... and next election, a new mayor might have vision for it.

Transit is something a lot of politicians will use to get voted.

Mind you, if the Federal government were to offer them money, they may change their minds.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 6:09 AM
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Rapid transit is not a race. Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver all had a million people when their first rapid transit lines were built. While I can appreciate the desire for it, rapid transit that's rushed can result in rash decisions that can hurt the city down the line.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 7:07 AM
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Congestion in London isn't really a thing yet. What takes 15 minutes off-peak probably takes 17 minutes during peak through the core.

Nobody is transferring out of their car for LRT/Bus for a few more decades.
You must be referring to the 3rd London because I know the first 2 have horrid traffic.

London is the only city in Ontario not to have an urban freeway. The city is also crisscrossed by the Thames River and lots of railway tracks. The city's traffic is horrid and I have been to every city in the country over 150,000 and there is NO place except for Vancouver that can hold a candle to London's transportation woes.

The lack of a freeway has left inner London with beautiful tree lined streets, gorgeous old Victorian homes, lovely urban parks, connected communities, and certain charm and warmth. The negative side is that, for it's size, it is a horrid place to get around.

Likely Londoners are proven that they do embrace transit as it's per-capita ridership levels are 3rd in the province after Toronto and Ottawa and London transit has higher total ridership than Hamilton or KWC despite those systems serving significantly more people.

This is a great day for London and the letter sent to the Premier and company made it quite clear that London will contribute $125 million of it's own money and expects the province to pony up $1.1 billion making particular reference to how Brampton/Miss/Hamilton/Toronto all got full funding and London expects the same.
     
     
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I don't see Windsor getting LRT for quite a long time, as its relatively easy to move around the city and suburbs. We do have a couple of new councillors who are pro transit though, so hopefully they can get the conversation started at some point.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 2:32 PM
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... and next election, a new mayor might have vision for it.

Transit is something a lot of politicians will use to get voted.
Quebec City voters are mostly hostile to transit, so not likely.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 2:57 PM
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Congestion in London isn't really a thing yet. What takes 15 minutes off-peak probably takes 17 minutes during peak through the core.

Nobody is transferring out of their car for LRT/Bus for a few more decades.
Are you kidding me?

London has the worst congestion in Ontario. 15 minutes off-peak is more like 45-60 minutes in the peak period.

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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 5:03 PM
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After that Niagara Falls and Halifax are the biggest metros without RT plans.
Incidentally, somebody posted this the other day:

     
     
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I don't see Windsor getting LRT for quite a long time, as its relatively easy to move around the city and suburbs. We do have a couple of new councillors who are pro transit though, so hopefully they can get the conversation started at some point.
Never too early to reserve corridors so fewer people complain in 50 years!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 5:47 PM
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London becomes the 10th CMA to have firm RT plans. Quebec not having anything planned is looking odder and odder.

Saskatoon is likely to join with 18 months and Victoria always seems to be a year away.

After that Niagara Falls and Halifax are the biggest metros without RT plans.
I didn't know Winnipeg had firm plans. I thought they wanted to stick with BRT since they're bus makers.
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Never too early to reserve corridors so fewer people complain in 50 years!
Still no guarantee. see "Byron Linear Park" in Ottawa
     
     
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I didn't know Winnipeg had firm plans. I thought they wanted to stick with BRT since they're bus makers.
BRT is RT.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 7:20 PM
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 7:53 PM
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*snorts with laughter*
Indeed. If we're talking about actual BRT of at least bronze level I might be slightly impressed. But if not, time to roll over and go back to sleep.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2015, 8:04 PM
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So speed and service levels are irrelevant, it's only about whether there are steel rails involved... got it
     
     
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