LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 4.0

[ConstructDTLA]

Originally Posted by ThreeHundred

The news just keeps coming.

From Curbed:

Thats the silly rumor I posted from that awfully written Downtown Examiner a few weeks ago.

May Co is HUGE. How could they possibly turn it into a hotel or apartments unless a large amount of those just don't have windows?

[BrandonJXN]

Originally Posted by HunterK

Thats the silly rumor I posted from that awfully written Downtown Examiner a few weeks ago.

May Co is HUGE. How could they possibly turn it into a hotel or apartments unless a large amount of those just don't have windows?

Very large rooms?

[blackcat23]

Grand Avenue Rental Tower

[BrandonJXN]

I'm curious about the Grand Ave Tower: Will Kozuskukzokuko or whatever the hell that street is called still be a street or will it be turned into a plaza of sorts?

[brudy]

Originally Posted by HunterK

Or older lower income residents. It is a bummer. But there are still so many unused and unconververted buildings. There will (hopefully) be a time for more luxury apartments. I'm talking Rowan quality (even though Rowan is to-own, which we also need a lot more of).

As long as Banco Popular actually gets underway I'll be happy. People always talk about 4th/Spring 4th/Main being 'urban' but its quite the opposite - quite desolate. Hopefully with this conversion (and the new, insanely popular, Bar Ama) that will change.

Article says it's 20% affordable housing. Sounds like it might be smaller units all around, but 610 average is pretty small.

[SoCalKid]

Originally Posted by brudy

One thing that bums me out a bit is the Banco Popular building. In the description the average unit size will be 610 sq ft. That's pretty small, in any city. It's such a beautiful building, but with units that size it will be mostly students or right out of college.

I don't see a problem with that. Isn't that a demographic that would really help enliven the streets and help create an active, vibrant, urban district?

[brudy]

Originally Posted by SoCalKid

I don't see a problem with that. Isn't that a demographic that would really help enliven the streets and help create an active, vibrant, urban district?

Perhaps that's true. But having lived in Boston for 5 long cold years, I'll say that students don't really care about the neighborhood long term and too many students in one area can make it crappy for everybody else.

[ChelseaFC]

Originally Posted by HunterK

Thats the silly rumor I posted from that awfully written Downtown Examiner a few weeks ago.

May Co is HUGE. How could they possibly turn it into a hotel or apartments unless a large amount of those just don't have windows?

Boardrooms, ballrooms, banquet rooms, indoor pool/exercise areas, restaurants, etc. You put a few conference size rooms in there, you use up a lot of space quickly.

[Quixote]

Did anyone see this in the Downtown News project compilation? These are the Metro @ Chinatown Senior Lofts. This is a nice conversion.


http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/the-d...8005-001a4bcf887a.html?mode=image&photo=

[ChelseaFC]

Nice to see this courtyard coming back between the Sentry and Clock buildings at the PacMutual Building half a block from Pershing Square.

[citywatch]

Originally Posted by gerryberry

yes i do remember that on palmer´s homepage it said 2017 as an opening date a while ago, they now changed it to 2015!

now that you mention it, I'm trying to remember if that web page originally indicated a date further into the future or if it's always shown what's listed now, or the year 2015. I really don't know....so your recollection is as good as mine.....or hopefully better cuz if 2015 has replaced 2017, that implies Palmer must be hoping to get things wrapped up sooner rather than later.

But I still have this vague sense that the page always showed the current date. But I never took it to mean much, one way or the other, cuz I thought the info probably had been posted yrs ago, so any date already would be too optimistic. I do remember the first time I stumbled across that page....sometime last yr....I was surprised he owned land on broadway to begin with & had a proj penciled in there.

as for the never ending complaints about his devlpt, certain forumers better remember to look in the mirror when they complain about posts that repeat the same thing over & over again.

So now there's concern his new proj on broadway may be too big? OMG! Call out the emergency patrol! Ppl complain about new projs in dt being too short, being too this, being too that. Now some are worried a new devlpt in the deadlands of southern broadway may be too big!? Personally, my bigger concern is his new bldg across from the old UA theater....soon to be ace hotel....won't be large enough. The plans appear to exclude the bldgs at the NE corner of olympic & broadway.....


maps.google.com

^ I'd just as soon have Palmer own the entire southern half of that block, clear out the rattrap properties & extend his new devlpt to fill the entire stretch of the north side of Olympic between broadway & Spring.

some have said his projs are value engineered. Actually, while they're gaudy & tacky, the extra bric a brac, including statues, urns, balustrades, water fountains, pools, heavy landscaping, & faux euro styling probably costs more $$ than if his architects left out all that bric a brac. It's a matter of taste more than dollars.



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[Easy]

Originally Posted by blackcat23

Here's a link to the Downtown News' February 2013 development update.

http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/the-d...cb9f524-7d3d-11e2-8005-001a4bcf887a.html

It is foolish to believe that Downtown will ever again see the sheer number of cranes that dotted the skyline seven years ago. That said, things have unequivocally rebounded from the lows of the recession, and once again there are thousands of construction jobs in the Central City.

I think that he might be confusing Los Angeles with San Diego. We just never really had a sea of cranes. I think that for a very brief time there were maybe 5 cranes visible around South Park on 4 separate projects. Unless I'm mistaken there will be more cranes by this summer (Avant, Courtyard Marriott, 8th/Grand, 9th/Olive, 8th/Hope, Related Tower) than at any time during the "boom" and this new boom is just getting started.

[Valyrian Steel]

Originally Posted by Easy

I think that he might be confusing Los Angeles with San Diego. We just never really had a sea of cranes. I think that for a very brief time there were maybe 5 cranes visible around South Park on 4 separate projects. Unless I'm mistaken there will be more cranes by this summer (Avant, Courtyard Marriott, 8th/Grand, 9th/Olive, 8th/Hope, Related Tower) than at any time during the "boom" and this new boom is just getting started.

I was thinking something similar when I read that. Don't know where this "foolish" talk comes from. I've seen pics posted from the last boom and remember seeing 3, maybe 4 cranes in the same photo.

[blackcat23]

http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/archives/55223

Upscale market to go behind the Broad Museum?

[BrandonJXN]

Originally Posted by ChelseaFC

Nice to see this courtyard coming back between the Sentry and Clock buildings at the PacMutual Building half a block from Pershing Square.

All the more reason that Pershing Square needs to be transformed into a truly world class park. There will be a absolute seachange in downtown if that were to happen.

[brudy]

Originally Posted by blackcat23

http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/archives/55223

Upscale market to go behind the Broad Museum?

That post references Chelsea Market, which if that were the case, would be amazing.

[BrandonJXN]

Originally Posted by brudy

That post references Chelsea Market, which if that were the case, would be amazing.

This could really be really big if you think about it. The Broad is right across the street from the future 2nd and Hope station.

http://la.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Screen-Shot-2012-08-20-at-10.45.36-AM.png


http://la.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Screen-Shot-2012-08-20-at-10.45.55-AM.png

This station could really become a destination if this market becomes a reality. If nothing else, it'll give people an excuse to go to Bunker Hill.

[brudy]

Originally Posted by ThreeHundred

This could really be really big if you think about it. The Broad is right across the street from the future 2nd and Hope station.

This station could really become a destination if this market becomes a reality. If nothing else, it'll give people an excuse to go to Bunker Hill.

Definitely. I wonder about the size though. That space above the garage doesn't look that big from the images. I guess we just need to know what they mean by 'market.'

[gerryberry]

Originally Posted by citywatch

now that you mention it, I'm trying to remember if that web page originally indicated a date further into the future or if it's always shown what's listed now, or the year 2015. I really don't know....so your recollection is as good as mine.....or hopefully better cuz if 2015 has replaced 2017, that implies Palmer must be hoping to get things wrapped up sooner rather than later.

this article was the reason why i thought about it in the first place
in the last sentence he is referring to palmer´s homepage for the opening date.

http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/geoff...3f06e42-7d15-11e2-b9c4-001a4bcf887a.html

i am just moving to l.a. from europe and i´m hoping downtown gets more and more housing options fast , that´s why i am excited about it

[Kingofthehill]

Drive-by of the Michael Maltzan-designed Star Apartments (6th/Maple), whose construction has officially passed the 70% mark: