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Old Posted May 8, 2007, 4:06 AM
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Its sure a shame they had to kill that poor, innocent, single-level parking lot to build that hotel...

Anyone want to Photochop Rincon into that picture? That would be awesome!
     
     
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Dolores Park Night View, 05-06-07

     
     
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Old Posted May 10, 2007, 4:42 PM
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Old Posted May 11, 2007, 2:50 AM
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Ritz Carlton addition: Photos from 5/10/07

Today, I found what I think is very good news. The Ritz Carlton may turn out better than I thought.

First of all, the facade of the addition is not bland stucco as I thought but a textured stone (or synthetic stone) as suggested by the renderings:



But even better, notice those metal plates being affixed along the rooflines and certain lower floors:





Here is the rendering once again:



I think it's very likely that the metal plates are attachments for projecting cornices which is what we were calling a "roof overhangs". So, when its finished, the building WILL look pretty much like the renderings.

Also, the great arched entranceway is emerging:



And the brickwork:


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Old Posted May 11, 2007, 3:02 AM
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Random projects on 5/10/07

Here's some other random projects:

The scaffolding is coming off Symphony Towers:



The Argenta as seen from Civic Center Plaza:



New Federal Building and SOMA Grand from Civic Center Plaza:



A little project nobody's mentioned (that I recall): the Rincon Park restaurants on the Embarcadero. If you like to walk along the waterfront as I do, they'll provide a place to grab some lunch:

     
     
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Old Posted May 11, 2007, 3:05 AM
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omg sf is the most beautiful city i have been to. i will visit sf again this november how do i get to bakers beach?
     
     
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Old Posted May 11, 2007, 5:38 AM
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Great job BT, nice zoom on the Ritz-Carlton! I failed to see the fine details on the façade of the building before these.
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But you knew how to spell facade.
     
     
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Old Posted May 11, 2007, 6:55 AM
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Old Posted May 11, 2007, 3:47 PM
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New renderings of the 407' Cathedral Hill Tower.

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Old Posted May 11, 2007, 4:49 PM
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and the article from the business times :

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In the late 1960s, Alvin Dworman was a force on Cathedral Hill, a neighborhood-changing developer who built Cathedral Hill Tower, Cathedral Hill Plaza and assembled the site for the area's defining landmark, the Cathedral of St. Mary of the Assumption, built in 1971.

Now 40 years later Dworman's Adco Group is again looking to put a defining stamp on the neighborhood. The developer is proposing a $230 million, 407-foot elliptical condominium tower at the hill's apex, a ghostly white glass structure that would be visible from much of the city.

Adco has hired Skidmore Owings & Merrill to design the 38-story building, which SOM design partner Craig Hartman described as a light and luminous "bell tower marking the presence of the cathedral." The new tower would be built at 1481 Post St., adjacent to Cathedral Hill Plaza, a 169-unit rental property.

The project would also include 6,000 square feet of retail and a 5,000-square-foot cultural space, which the developer envisions as a cultural and educational space modeled after the 92nd Street Y in New York.

"We've come full circle back to where we started," said Linda Corso, general manager of Cathedral Hill Plaza.

A new direction

The project comes at a time when Cathedral Hill activists are organizing to oppose a massive new California Pacific Medical Center hospital proposed for the eastern edge of the neighborhood. Adco faces a challenge in convincing neighbors -- already feeling under siege -- that the development's subtle design and public amenities will offset added density or blocked views.

SOM senior designer Leo Chow argued that the project is a chance for Adco to correct some of the design mistakes made when the neighborhood was developed. At the time, the San Francisco Redevelopment Agency pushed a plan that moved automobile traffic through the area at the expense of pedestrians.

The 1481 Post St. plan calls for the building itself to be spun around, so its main axis points not straight out but to the entrance of St. Mary's. Hartman says the elliptical tower "is making a deferential gesture to the cathedral." This will break up the "imposing urban wall" to create space for a large public Japanese garden along the south side of Post Street. With 36 stories of housing, the first two stories will be a glass-clad transparent base of retail and community uses.

Chow said the tower is consistent with the city's long-standing policy of trying to define the hills with tall buildings.

"The idea of building an iconic tower on top of the hill seems appropriate," said Chow. "It's a very sleek, simple form you can identify from different parts of the city."

Corso said the developer started looking at the site two years ago and brought on SOM last summer. On March 9, Adco filed an application for environmental evaluation with the Planning Department. The developer has just started reaching out to neighborhood groups like the Cathedral Hill Neighborhood Association and the Japantown Task Force, according to Corso, who said 60 residents attended an initial meeting April 19th.

The building would be 407 feet tall. Current zoning allows 240 feet, which Chow calls a "an unfortunate, squat, blocky thing."

The development site is now occupied by two tennis courts, a swimming pool, and both above-ground and surface parking. Under the new plan, the parking would be moved underground and the swimming pools incorporated into the new development.

Dworman is a former close associate of the Pritzker family, the billionaire hoteliers and philanthropists based in Chicago, but fell out with the family in 2001 after a bank they owned jointly failed.

Based in New York with offices in San Francisco, Adco owns 1.3 million square feet of commercial space in San Francisco. It has developed the Normandy Apartments on Ellis Street, Museum Parc at 300 Third St., and owns SF Mart, 875 Stevenson St., and Convention Plaza.

And Dworman and Adco are no strangers to neighborhood battles. In 2000, the developer opened Bacara Resort and Spa outside of Santa Barbara, a ultra deluxe project that took 17 years of legal battles to entitle and build.
     
     
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Rincon restaurants.

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A little project nobody's mentioned (that I recall): the Rincon Park restaurants on the Embarcadero. If you like to walk along the waterfront as I do, they'll provide a place to grab some lunch:
Well, it's not really going to be a place to drop in for a quick cheap lunch! They're spending something outrageous like $10 million on interior decorations for these two small restaurants. Expect it to be some of the most expensive food in The City, so plan on spending at least a few hundred for dinner. I hope the buildings look nice, so far I haven't even seen a rendering.
     
     
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New renderings of the 407' Cathedral Hill Tower.

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http://www.socketsite.com/Cathedral%20Hill%20Tower%20Rendering.jpg
Very nice!! Almost Mac like
     
     
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Old Posted May 12, 2007, 4:09 AM
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690 maket st

when construction first started


Now when constructionis almost done
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2007, 4:09 AM
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There is something about old architecture coupled with new, updated windows that is very sexy to me.
     
     
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Old Posted May 13, 2007, 5:09 PM
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this building i a cool building.
im glad i got to go to work with my dad on saturdays.
almost everytime i would go back the build would be taller. i remember one saturday i left and their was only 16 storys and 4 weeks later and their was 26 storys.
     
     
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Well, it's not really going to be a place to drop in for a quick cheap lunch! They're spending something outrageous like $10 million on interior decorations for these two small restaurants. Expect it to be some of the most expensive food in The City, so plan on spending at least a few hundred for dinner. I hope the buildings look nice, so far I haven't even seen a rendering.
Here's what the BizTimes said last year:

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each restaurant has a peak capacity of about 200 diners, with the average dinner table expected to turn two-and-a-half times. Then there's the lunch business, where special menus for the business crowd indoors will be supplemented by sales through outdoor food kiosks Kuleto is planning. Entrees are in the $20-35 range, at least at dinner, and Levine said the average check could easily be around $80.
Source: http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2006/09/04/story2.html

That hardly makes it among "the most expensive food in the city" and I'm hoping what's available through the kiosks is even reasonable (comparable to what you can get a few blocks down at the Ferry Building). I'm not much of a lunch eater myself and when I do eat down there to eat I usually either go to the Java House for a burger or one of the international places across the street from the Ferry Bldg plaza, but the lack of any sources of take-out near Folsom has made that part of the waterfront less loiter-friendly than down near Market and I'd like to see that remedied.

The architecture is nothing spectacular:



     
     
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Thanks for posting the pics and more info about the restaurants. It will be interesting to see how the food and interiors are, especially since the $18 million miniumum to build two tiny buildings is insane. And they are pretty boring too, at least from the outside!

Kuleto wants to charge high enough food prices to generate at least $20 million in the first 12 months, that is pretty aggressive. But I guess I wouldn't be surprised if it is pulled off...I'm guessing the two restaurants will be comparable to Boulevard & Aqua in terms of price/quality...Not sure where the customers will park though.
     
     
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Thanks for posting the pics and more info about the restaurants. It will be interesting to see how the food and interiors are, especially since the $18 million miniumum to build two tiny buildings is insane. And they are pretty boring too, at least from the outside!

Kuleto wants to charge high enough food prices to generate at least $20 million in the first 12 months, that is pretty aggressive. But I guess I wouldn't be surprised if it is pulled off...I'm guessing the two restaurants will be comparable to Boulevard & Aqua in terms of price/quality...Not sure where the customers will park though.
A couple points -

First, regarding the "blandness" of the buildings. I've heard that the seafood restaurant will contain giant aquariums to add to the ambiance of the restaurants and we can be assured that both will contain awesome views of the bay and the bridge (which were once available to patrons at Palomino and Crunch gym).

Next, regarding the parking situation. Don't forget that the current tenants across the street (Palomino, Gordon Biersch) offer free validated parking in their garage. I wouldn't be surprised if these restaurants offered this as well, but also one-upped them by providing valet parking that utilizes this garage. If you walk by the construction site on the embarcadero, you'll notice that there is a large area of "shoulder" which would easily accomodate people dropping off and picking up their cars for valet.
     
     
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Re: blandness of the buildings

Why should architecture in this area be outrageous? I think that the restaurants will fit in perfectly, as they are not flashy so as to deduct from the natural beauty of the area with the parks and the bay, bay bridge, etc. They are simplistic, modern, clean, and simple. I like them. They could be a lot worse! Hopefully they will detract from that horrible fisher price bow and arrow set nearby, though
     
     
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