Winnipeg Construction X - Page 36

esquire · #**701** Posted **Aug 28, 2019, 6:46 PM**

Incidentally, that is an incredible parcel of land that CF controls...Portage clear up to St. Matthews. Would the value ever increase if they convinced the City to remove the AVP restrictions from it (which they should)... hopefully actual development is part of the plan here and not just a bump in asset value.

optimusREIM · #**702** Posted **Aug 28, 2019, 7:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Winnipeg Grump

It just makes so much sense to go mixed-use/residential there. The old stadium site is a wasteland.

You already have 'many' highrises on the flight path so I'm not sure why WAA gets to block new ones going up, especially since they'd be further away than existing residential towers.

Well don't they get to block any residential in the area? That seems a little bit excessive. I don't understand what the point was to begin with in restricting residential development. Buyer beware man. That's my take on it.

esquire · #**703** Posted **Aug 28, 2019, 7:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Well don't they get to block any residential in the area? That seems a little bit excessive. I don't understand what the point was to begin with in restricting residential development. Buyer beware man. That's my take on it.

Back in the 80s and 90s WAA was nervous about losing 24 hour operations status due to noise issues (cargo tends to run at night), so they got the City to impose those restrictions.

But things have changed since those days... aircraft are quieter now. It is not the issue that it once was.

Gm0ney · #**704** Posted **Aug 28, 2019, 7:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

Back in the 80s and 90s WAA was nervous about losing 24 hour operations status due to noise issues (cargo tends to run at night), so they got the City to impose those restrictions.

But things have changed since those days... aircraft are quieter now. It is not the issue that it once was.

Some of those old cargo jets are pretty loud. FedEx or UPS used to fly out every night around 2am and you could really hear them if they took off south over Charleswood.

They rarely use runway 31/13 at night anyway - at least not for takeoffs over the Polo Park and River Heights area.

The long term plan is to add a parallel runway to the northeast of 31/13 though...line planes up on a path pretty close to the former Target on the old Stadium lot.

BAKGUY · #**705** Posted **Aug 28, 2019, 8:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

The news about the CF folks trying to get the ball rolling on residential at Polo Park is a little surprising bu maybe not that much. It shows that they think that the demand will exist if it doesn't already for this sort of development. I think it would be tremendously popular if they managed to get it off the ground. Is there a grocery store in or around Polo? It would be a great place to live if you like proximity to amenities.

Well... within 3 blocks.. More than almost any other regions of the city

1 - Safeway
2 - Sav-on-Foods
3 - Superstore
4 - Wholesale Club (no membership required)
5 - Wal-Mart
6 - Costco

esquire · #**706** Posted **Aug 28, 2019, 8:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gm0ney

Some of those old cargo jets are pretty loud. FedEx or UPS used to fly out every night around 2am and you could really hear them if they took off south over Charleswood.

They rarely use runway 31/13 at night anyway - at least not for takeoffs over the Polo Park and River Heights area.

The long term plan is to add a parallel runway to the northeast of 31/13 though...line planes up on a path pretty close to the former Target on the old Stadium lot.

Cargo jets represent the lions share of the older-style aircraft that are still flying. They are a bit behind the curve, and many of them date back to the 70s or 80s. But as with passenger jets, they too will be replaced by newer, quieter models.

optimusREIM · #**707** Posted **Aug 28, 2019, 8:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by BAKGUY

Well... within 3 blocks.. More than almost any other regions of the city

1 - Safeway
2 - Sav-on-Foods
3 - Superstore
4 - Wholesale Club (no membership required)
5 - Wal-Mart
6 - Costco

Haha shows how often I go to the Polo Park area. That being the case, there would be no issues in selling major residential in the area. It's ideally situated between downtown and the airport and close to virtually any amenity imaginable. Frequent bus service to multiple destinations doesn't hurt either.

Wpg_Guy · #**708** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 12:05 AM**

Newport Center reclad:

OTA in Winnipeg · #**709** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 12:39 AM**

^^Looking good.

Wpg_Guy · #**710** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 12:44 AM**

CF must have big plans in place for the Polo area, I wonder how soon until they are revealed.

BAKGUY · #**711** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 6:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

CF must have big plans in place for the Polo area, I wonder how soon until they are revealed.

This could very well be one of the major TBA developments we have been promised coming our way before Years end

BAKGUY · #**712** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 7:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

Newport Center reclad:

Well, it is a major change. Almost Albino looking compared to before...I think when it is all done it will look very fresh and might invigorate others to do some sprucing up...RADISSON would be my first hope but doubtful the owners care to do anything.

lilwayne · #**713** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 7:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by BAKGUY

This could very well be one of the major TBA developments we have been promised coming our way before Years end

Who promised a big announcement before years end?

1ajs · #**714** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 1:07 PM**

^^ theres 3 or 4 of them that have been mentioened in the works since last fall one has been anounced so far at tns then theres possibly portage place?

Wpg_Guy · #**715** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 3:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by BAKGUY

Well, it is a major change. Almost Albino looking compared to before...I think when it is all done it will look very fresh and might invigorate others to do some sprucing up...RADISSON would be my first hope but doubtful the owners care to do anything.

When the mullions are installed it won’t look so ‘albino’.

What would you want done the Radisson? It’s a concrete structure that’s never going to change. The ground level awnings do need to go.

optimusREIM · #**716** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 3:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

When the mullions are installed it won’t look so ‘albino’.

What would you want done the Radisson? It’s a concrete structure that’s never going to change. The ground level awnings do need to go.

They could put up actual cladding to make it look a little less soviet.

1ajs · #**717** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 3:08 PM**

u guys should see the freight elevator...... heh hell most frieght elevators seem to get allot of neglect

Gm0ney · #**718** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 3:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by 1ajs

u guys should see the freight elevator...... heh hell most frieght elevators seem to get allot of neglect

The Grain Exchange has quite a freight elevator...I'll have to snap a picture sometime.

esquire · #**719** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 3:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

They could put up actual cladding to make it look a little less soviet.

It already is clad in beautiful concrete!

1ajs · #**720** Posted **Aug 29, 2019, 3:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gm0ney

The Grain Exchange has quite a freight elevator...I'll have to snap a picture sometime.

spent lots of time hauling radio equipment to the roof in that one
have u seen the abanded one thats been an office for prolly 80 yrs