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The Shake Shack is going in where the nightclub was at 8th and Hill.
Don't forget the COM flagship store coming to the Olympic Theater(and Dunkin Donuts on the corner )
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The Artist Formerly Known as Saris-Regis (now going by the a name along the lines of "Wakaba LA" - thank you citywatch!) suffers from "good from far, far from good" syndrome. From a distance, it's not a bad looking building. But upon closer inspection, the stucco finishes are a bit rough, and some of the finishes around ground level - where they matter the most - are questionable. There are some light tan stonish tiles going in at ground level that look both nice and cheap at the same time. Not yet finished, so will hold off judgement until it is, but could have been a lot better. Still, it's 10 times better than AVA next door.


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Also, it appears that Medallion on 4th and Main got a paint job - it's now a darker charcoal grey instead of creamy white - and it looks a LOT better. The darker color somewhat hides the real stucco material, and makes the building look a lot more upscale and modern.
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Also, it appears that Medallion on 4th and Main got a paint job - it's now a darker charcoal grey instead of creamy white - and it looks a LOT better. The darker color somewhat hides the real stucco material, and makes the building look a lot more upscale and modern.
They did the same with one of the complexes from the 2000s on Alameda back in the summer. That looks much better now too.
     
     
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The Artist Formerly Known as Saris-Regis (now going by the a name along the lines of "Nakala"?) suffers from "good from far, far from good" syndrome. From a distance, it's not a bad looking building. But upon closer inspection, the stucco finishes are a bit rough, and some of the finishes around ground level - where they matter the most - are questionable. There are some light tan stonish tiles going in at ground level that look both nice and cheap at the same time. Not yet finished, so will hold off judgement until it is, but could have been a lot better. Still, it's 10 times better than AVA next door.


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I would love to share it with the board, but I must admit that while I used factual data, it is primitive in in the sense that it mostly includes street view pics, addresses and the years each structure was built. It's not in the proper format right now but I could definitely find a way to compile it all better and possibly share a link on here.

Once I have some time I will look into it.
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speaking of little tokyo & the new apt bldg at the corner of 2nd & san pedro st (the proj, btw, is named wakaba LA), this other proj just a block away....& in the shadow of LA city hall....has been hidden from many ppl's awareness. Last time I saw the site a few months ago, the former parking lot was walled off but there were no signs of actual construction. I'm hoping that's changed.

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Lotus 77
118 Astronaut E S Onizuka Street, Los Angeles
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Lotus 77 is a new condo development By ETCO Homes
currently under construction at 118 Astronaut E S Onizuka Street, Los Angeles. The development has a total of 77 units.


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Los Angeles cuisine comes alive with opportunity for freewheeling chefs

This new-found vigor of America’s second-largest city, a metropolitan area of 18.5 million people, has sparked national praise for its growing, vibrant dining scene. Bill Addison, the national restaurant critic for Eater and former reviewer for The Chronicle, calls San Francisco the best fine-dining city in America. But, he believes Los Angeles currently has the most exciting dining scene.

It’s a pronouncement that might ruffle the feathers of the San Franciscans who think what’s been happening in our city is even more phenomenal than what’s happening down south. Still it’s impossible to deny that Los Angeles is setting some national trends and nurturing young, experimental chefs.

While the more established restaurants such as Suzanne Goin’s A.O.C, which is even better today than when it opened in 2002, share some stylistic similarities with their San Francisco counterparts, there’s a decidedly more eclectic attitude thriving in Los Angeles. It’s more freewheeling with bolder, often less-refined, flavors. Ethnic influences are more prominent — particularly Korean, Mexican, Southeast Asian and Japanese, which has long been a strength in Southern California.

Timothy Hollingsworth, who worked at the French Laundry in Yountville for 12 years, recently opened Otium, adjacent to the Broad Museum in downtown Los Angeles within the shadow of Walt Disney Concert Hall.

Hollingsworth originally moved to Southern California with the idea of opening a taco concept. He quickly realized that market was saturated and began looking for other options, which initially included Barrel and Ashes, a barbecue restaurant he opened in Studio City in 2014.

“Years ago I said I’d never open a restaurant in Los Angeles,” said Hollingsworth. “I thought of L.A. as a place where people didn’t appreciate food and were always searching for the next thing. For a long time no one supported restaurants, with a few exceptions, like Spago.”

“I’m not saying Los Angeles has the best food, I’m saying it has a lot of opportunity,” he explains. “Now there’s much more interest, and L.A. is becoming more recognized on a national level.”

Even two years ago downtown Los Angeles was deserted; now it’s booming with places like Bestia, an Italian restaurant in a drab warehouse that a few years ago would repel rather than attract diners, and Redbird, a bright, sunny modern American restaurant in the former rectory of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese’s cathedral.

San Francisco has, since the Gold Rush, nurtured a population that cares deeply about food. This has led to a more refined but at times overly homogenous dining scene in the Bay Area.

In recent years, the Los Angeles dining scene has become less about being seen and more about the cuisine. Increasingly, Angelenos like Kauble are celebrating the more sensual side of food — and chefs are finding an increasingly accepting audience for their vision. Los Angeles is in the bubble of discovery, creating a more casual, freewheeling dining environment.

“San Francisco and Los Angeles, for me, are truly neck and neck as dining cities,” says Eater’s Bill Addison. “California is on fire right now. There’s no better place to be eating in the country.”


as for wilcal, how can you not be aware of a rather famous phrase about ppl's opinions?! The words in that saying perfectly capture the reactions of just about all ppl out there when their POV is running into another person's POV, which, in turn, is confronting another person's POV.

This is another version of that phrase.....





^ I often think of that phrase when postings in this thread have gotten surprisingly, ridiculously rather heated or overly personal.....when all of us have taken ourselves way too seriously.
     
     
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I recall all the yrs I'd go down los angeles street between 2nd & 3rd....well before the existence of the admittedly tacky looking ava apt bldgs....& see the old gritty bldgs like the one a forumer mistakenly assumed was going to be torn down for the little tokyo gym proj....& think no one in their right mind would want to stick around there for more than a short while.

New devlpt like the bldg designed by tca will never be reviewed in glowing terms by many ppl....certainly the experts at the AIA....but I have a hunch far more ppl now can be around areas like LA St in little tokyo between 2nd & 3rd & no longer immediately feel the need to say....get me the hell outta here!!! That will be even truer when new devlpt like the budokan is built & opened.

as for apt projs like the da vinci....even more so since even though it's squeezed in between noisy, smoggy fwys but still appears to have been well accepted by tenants, & knowing how palmer's projs are very kitschy & ridiculous clones of one another....& also knowing that my POV may run counter to other ppl's, & visa versa, this line comes to mind....






Most ppl are like this writer from britain. They're gonna be more aware of the dilapidation or overly empty streets in dtla....or things that make them think of the bronx.....than things like new devlpt that doesn't totally suit their tastes. His reactions or observations pretty much mimic many of my own.
City Watch,
you are not the only person (I am 57 years old) who remembers the desolation of downtown prior to its current rebirth. Although I live currently in exurbia, I have been coming to DTLA since 1965. Yes, I understand the need to fill these long time urban voids (e. g. parking lots, decrepit buildings, etc) that you mention. However, unlike a few in this forum, I believe that this should be done with some thought and guidance and at least with written and adhered to design standards to this process. Currently the city's approach is more helter skelter which ends up putting nothing more than urban blight and future slum-like structures (e.g. poor construction, cheap materials and outdated designs which do not relate to the urban fabric) filling a lot of these long time voids. Yes, they put "feet on the ground" but at the same time these "shitboxes" will age quickly and as I said become blight. Not only in an urban contextual sense but also in a physical sense. And yes, some are very successful such as Palmer's projects (if you can actually believe what the management says about occupancy--Palmer wouldn't lie, would he?). But in analogy, Mac Donald's profitably sells billions of Hamburgers around the world yearly, but that does not make them good or healthy, does it?
And I have something to say about your cute and somewhat insulting cartoon about "assholes" and opinions. As far as this is a forum which dedicates itself to opinions about DTLA design, aesthetics and development, then according to you we in this forum all have "assholes" which are speaking. And I might say yours is the loudest and most prolific (on a daily basis yet) of the lot. And my dear, "It often stinks." LOL

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you are not the only person (I am 57 years old) who remembers the desolation of downtown prior to its current rebirth. Although I live currently in exurbia, I have been coming to DTLA since 1965. Yes, I understand the need to fill these long time urban voids (e. g. parking lots, decrepit buildings, etc) that you mention. However, unlike a few in this forum, I believe that this should be done with some thought and guidance and at least with written and adhered to design standards to this process. Currently the city's approach is more helter skelter which ends up putting nothing more than urban blight and future slum-like structures (e.g. poor construction, cheap materials and outdated designs which do not relate to the urban fabric) filling a lot of these long time voids. Yes, they put "feet on the ground" but at the same time these "shitboxes" will age quickly and as I said become blight. Not only in an urban contextual sense but also in a physical sense. And yes, some are very successful such as Palmer's projects (if you can actually believe what the management says about occupancy--Palmer wouldn't lie, would he?). But in analogy, Mac Donald's profitably sells billions of Hamburgers around the world yearly, but that does not make them good or healthy, does it?
And I have something to say about your cute and somewhat insulting cartoon about "assholes" and opinions. As far as this is a forum which dedicates itself to opinions about DTLA design, aesthetics and development, then according to you we in this forum all have "assholes" which are speaking. And I might say yours is the loudest and most prolific (on a daily basis yet) of the lot. And my dear, "It stinks." LOL
The last thing LA needs is more regulation in it's housing market.

Also, there is a strong need for low-quality housing:

http://marketurbanism.com/2016/03/20/the-need-for-low-quality-housing/
     
     
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Currently the city's approach is more helter skelter which ends up putting nothing more than urban blight and future slum-like structures (e.g. poor construction, cheap materials and outdated designs which do not relate to the urban fabric) filling a lot of these long time voids. Yes, they put "feet on the ground" but at the same time these "shitboxes" will age quickly and as I said become blight.
wilcal, my quip about ppl's opinions is in regards to the comments of ppl far & wide.....from those who live in dt, or work there or visit it regularly, including ppl who post to this thread, or ppl who only read about dtla & rarely visit it.

Your unhappiness about new devlpt in dt not being architecturally very good...or better....is quite legitimate. I don't say your POV is wrong in the least. I merely say that in the bigger picture, most ppl aren't as aware of, or as bothered by, such things.

yes, new projs like the ones from Palmer may be successful the way mcdonald's is successful, but that's just the way things are. You can bring up the phrase of 'no accounting for taste', but all the new tenants of his many bldgs will look at you or me with puzzlement & say since they're the ones living in his bldgs, willing to rent his spaces, & are in dtla 24/7.....unlike those of us who peer into dt from 30 or 100 miles away.....what's it to you?!

The old bldgs that nativeorange was mentioning & has catalogued probably...likely....didn't get any praise when they were brand new over 80 or more yrs ago. So if the devlpt added to dt over the past several yrs that you don't care for ages quickly & eventually becomes blight, that means it will be following in the footsteps of much of the devlpt throughout dtla from 2 or 3, or 4, generations ago.

Your being worried that new apt bldgs in dt aren't nicely designed enough is perfectly valid. It's just that I'd extend that to the importance of being as concerned there still aren't enough ppl living in or visiting the hood who have decent incomes to support all the things that are opening up in dt.


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Last September, the first paragraph of L.A. Weekly restaurant critic Besha Rodell's review of BierBeisl Imbiss observed: "BierBeisl Imbiss, Bernhard Mairinger's new Austrian restaurant downtown, deserves to have more customers lounging at its long, wooden tables. I mean that in the sense of the place being too good to sit half-empty, but also in the sense that the space itself is built to be packed with merrymakers, groups of people happily drinking beer out of giant steins, shoveling fat sausages into their maws, living out a Bavarian fantasy of extreme revelry."

Those words ended up ringing too true: The casual beer and wurstjoint — located inside the Spring Arcade in downtown's Historic Core — never quite found its footing, announcing yesterday that its last day of business will be April 16.

Unlike Guisados DTLA and Gelateria Uli, both of which have prime Spring Street–adjacent locations, BierBeisl Imbiss was never able to gain the critical mass of customers it had hoped for, perhaps due to being tucked off the street, in the middle of the arcade.

Chef Bernhard Mairinger, who first gained acclaimed for his Austrian cooking at Beverly Hills' BierBeisl (which, sadly, also meet an early demise back in 2013), had this to say:

“I’ve enjoyed introducing Angelenos to Austrian food and drink and thank you all for coming along with me on this wonderful journey. I am going to step back and rethink my concept for a casual European-style eatery. Meanwhile I am busy focusing on our thriving special events, catering and bakery divisions which will continue to grow in a new and larger location. Thanks again.”

One silver lining: Between now and April 16, the restaurant is hosting a special "blow-out party," featuring $5 sausage sandwiches, $3 sides, $7 schnitzel sandwiches, $3 beers, $8 wine and other specials.
     
     
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^^^ that place was always empty. I never went but I had friends complain that a sausage and a beer was like 30 bucks. Ah well. Every restaurant is not going to succeed
     
     
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Just came back from Colori Kitchen last night and I didn't realize how much 8th street is changing. The new tower (olive and 8th), commercial exchange, and the renovation of the May company building (and possibly Garfield building) will make this Completely different. I can't remember if something was going to happen to the building on 8th and hill. I think it was a nightclub before.
Shake Shack is cool, but I'm really looking forward to the sweetgreen that's also going in there.
     
     
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A look at the companies inside the La kretz innovation campus http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/insid...8400dd8-fddd-11e5-a149-87b040886b54.html
     
     
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In lieu of the white and dark grey, I would have complimented the red with dark burgundy, and some touches of black.

But perhaps that would have been too loud for the neighborhood!

But anything is better than being in beige-ad-nauseum Las Vegas!
     
     
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Historic Medical Building Converted to 42 Lofts in Downtown LA City West


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With Circa and Oceanwide plaza (Fig Central) coming online soon, I wonder if AEG has a plan to redo the Fig side of Staples Center, or an exterior upgrade period. Hasn't changed much on the outside since it was built back in 99.

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With Circa and Oceanwide plaza (Fig Central) coming online soon, I wonder if AEG has a plan to redo the Fig side of Staples Center, our an exterior upgrade period. Hasn't changed much on the outside since it was built back in 99.
I've always felt when Oceanwide plaza was first introduced as LA Central that the portion of Staples Center that extends to the corner of Fig and Chick Hearn needed to be torn down. I don't know what the purpose of that corner of the arena is for but it looks underutilized and acts like a blank wall on Figeuroa. If AEG was going for a Times Square feel, the activity between LA Live and Oceanwide Plaza should be seamless and I think that corner of Staples should be an open plaza. With the arena still extending there, once Oceanwide and Circa are finished it'll look sort of like as if a building was smack dab in the middle of Times Square.
     
     
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