AUSTIN | Waterline | 1,034 Feet | 73 Floors | T/O - Page 36

paul78701 · #**701** Posted **Sep 27, 2016, 5:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by resansom

Oh well, now we know why Austin seemingly has a 400' plateau - makes sense. Thanks for posting that information!

So we won't likely see many buildings between 400' and let's say 600' then.
As more of the 600'+ buildings eventually get built, that gap will make for an interesting skyline at some point.

Urbannizer · #**702** Posted **Apr 7, 2017, 1:38 AM**

Soil testing:

Waller Park Place by Darius Fontenette, on Flickr

drummer · #**703** Posted **Apr 7, 2017, 2:54 AM**

Great to see something happening. What is the current plan for this site? I feel like there've been some changes but I could be remembering incorrectly...all I know is not much has happened in a long time.

The ATX · #**704** Posted **Apr 7, 2017, 3:01 AM**

That's good to see. I keep an eye out for drilling/core sampling permits, and I haven't come across any for this site.

AustinGoesVertical · #**705** Posted **Apr 7, 2017, 5:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

That's good to see. I keep an eye out for drilling/core sampling permits, and I haven't come across any for this site.

This is usually a sign things are progressing, no? The operator was supposedly already chosen for this one. Could this be the Virgin lot?

Jdawgboy · #**706** Posted **Apr 7, 2017, 8:56 PM**

Out of curiosity, haven't they already drilled samples on this site before? Around the time that they cleared it roughly 2 years ago?

The ATX · #**707** Posted **Apr 7, 2017, 10:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by AustinGoesVertical

This is usually a sign things are progressing, no? The operator was supposedly already chosen for this one. Could this be the Virgin lot?

I'm not getting too excited about this being a sign that WPP is suddenly a go. Soil testing is something that is often done early in the process. It was done at the One Two East site a good while before that one failed. I'm more hopeful that it may be a sign that another project is taking it's place.

drummer · #**708** Posted **Apr 8, 2017, 12:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

I'm not getting too excited about this being a sign that WPP is suddenly a go. Soil testing is something that is often done early in the process. It was done at the One Two East site a good while before that one failed. I'm more hopeful that it may be a sign that another project is taking it's place.

I'm wondering that as well.

Maximusx1 · #**709** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 1:07 AM**

I'll add some fuel to this fire. I've got a buddy who works on Shoal Creek Walk. I ran into him briefly a few weeks ago and was asking him about his projects and a few others. He didn't want to talk about any of that. All he was focused on was WPP and how big a project that was about to be. 'Massive' was the word he kept using and he said it would be unlike anything Austin has ever seen.

I'm hoping for big things of this window between dt and Rainey.

The ATX · #**710** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 1:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by Maximusx1

I'll add some fuel to this fire. I've got a buddy who works on Shoal Creek Walk. I ran into him briefly a few weeks ago and was asking him about his projects and a few others. He didn't want to talk about any of that. All he was focused on was WPP and how big a project that was about to be. 'Massive' was the word he kept using and he said it would be unlike anything Austin has ever seen.

I'm hoping for big things of this window between dt and Rainey.

That's encouraging.

The ATX · #**711** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 2:05 AM**

One thing to note about this project...
The site plan with the building heights listed in the thread title is still good for another year. So this thing can still move forward as planned as soon as financing is in place.

Jdawgboy · #**712** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 3:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by Maximusx1

I'll add some fuel to this fire. I've got a buddy who works on Shoal Creek Walk. I ran into him briefly a few weeks ago and was asking him about his projects and a few others. He didn't want to talk about any of that. All he was focused on was WPP and how big a project that was about to be. 'Massive' was the word he kept using and he said it would be unlike anything Austin has ever seen.

I'm hoping for big things of this window between dt and Rainey.

Did he get into any specific details like if it's been changed from the original proposal or tower heights? Could the rumored "up to 72 floor residential tower" actually be apart of this project? We've been assuming that the former Travis County Courthouse block will be the site of that but if your friend is saying "unlike anything Austin has ever seen", maybe the project that Genral's friend is mentioning is the same one your friend is talking about. Just a speculation.

Also did he mention any sort of timeframe or are we going to be waiting around for another 2 years before anything happens?

the Genral · #**713** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 3:21 AM**

You know...these two sources could be talking about the same building. Mine couldn't or wouldn't say where it was going, only that it was in the final design phase. And he pretty much describe it the same way, enthusiastically I might add. This is starting to get interesting. And just because he said he hasn't heard anything about the Waller Creek site, doesn't mean it won't be built on it. He's a FE not a developer so he wouldn't know and or no one is talking locations in his circle. About any design change from the original renders, if this is one in the same, it is in the final design phase so it could very well be something we never saw before. Curiously, he had a picture of the original rendering (the 3 Austonian looking towers) on his computer along with other projects he's intersted in or worked on, including 5th and West.

drummer · #**714** Posted **Apr 10, 2017, 8:14 AM**

Man, now I'm super interested...and cautiously optimistic.

Jdawgboy · #**715** Posted **Apr 24, 2017, 1:57 PM**

Well I can say as of a a couple of days ago, not a damn thing is going on at the site. Still waiting for some solid indication that this project is either moving forward, scrapped or has been redesigned.

the Genral · #**716** Posted **Apr 25, 2017, 12:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jdawgboy

Well I can say as of a a couple of days ago, not a damn thing is going on at the site. Still waiting for some solid indication that this project is either moving forward, scrapped or has been redesigned.

I'm going with preparing the parcel for sale to a new developer.

austlar1 · #**717** Posted **Apr 25, 2017, 4:25 AM**

Well, here's an update on McCourt GLobal. It appears their much vaunted project in NY's Hudson Yards is stalled out. Hines is no longer partnering with them. They are supposedly moving forward with a super tall condo project in Miami, but otherwise they are "re-evaluating" their goals as a business and looking to expand outside of real estate development. That suggests that Sutton no longer has a partner for the Austin project. Ooops. I would call this 3 building project kind of a wet dream and/or dead on arrival.

https://therealdeal.com/2017/01/10/a...ment-platform/

The ATX · #**718** Posted **Apr 25, 2017, 5:07 AM**

Oh no. Sutton's three tower Rainey Gateway project turned into Millenium Rainey #1. So Sutton's three tower Waller Park Place project could turn into Millennium Rainey #2.

KevinFromTexas · #**719** Posted **Apr 25, 2017, 6:14 AM**

I never felt good about the layout and design of this project, to be honest. The building designs were too gimmicky. Something will eventually happen there.

drummer · #**720** Posted **Apr 25, 2017, 7:36 AM**

I agree. It's best for an okay project to not happen to make room for a great one. I'd rather it not be another Millennium Rainey, of course, but that lot will definitely be developed one way or another.