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Old Posted Oct 19, 2014, 2:00 AM
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It would be GREAT to have the section open to Cowan Heights, but I don't think that's going to happen soon. There's a lot of work to be done on the ramps for the Redmond's Rd connector, and there's been no talk of how that area will tie into the Blackmarsh/Empire area and the mayor & councillors say no to any part opening till they get a change in the Provincial / City Fiscal transfers.

Also, the two underpasses being done by pennecon aren't finished and won't be finished this season, I don't believe they've poured the deck for the Old Pennywell Rd one yet and it seems to take six months after they've done that to finish the other parts, abutment, siderails, the "year" section, etc.

So, you won't see anything open next summer.
In other jurisdictions, they would open as a section was completed. For that matter, some paving could have been done already, but I suspect they hold off to discourage dragsters on completed sections. Apparently that was a problem on the ORR when it was being built.

It is a shame tho' that easy access cannot be had for Cowan Heights and South areas, because of bureaucratic bungling.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2014, 7:03 PM
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Hello everyone!

I'd thought I would share my persuasive essay that I written for Language Arts class a couple of weeks ago. Keep in mind that this is my opinion on the expansion project at St. John's Airport... everyone has different opinions!

Ps, sorry if my writing isn't the best, I'm only in grade nine!


“Looking forward, moving downward

St. John’s International Airport has been the international gateway to Newfoundland and Labrador since the early 1940s. When the airport was built, its primary use was to handle the many military aircrafts refuelling and departing for Europe to fight in WW2. Today, the airport handles over 1.5 million passengers per year and serves as a refuelling and diverting point for many transatlantic flights. In the spring of 2014, St. John’s International Airport Authority unveiled an expansion plan expected to be completed in 2023. One of the largest features of this expansion is the extension of airport terminal building, making it almost double in size. Although the terminal has many positive features, I believe that overall, this terminal expansion will not be able to handle the expected two million passengers by 2023, will not function as a whole, and will not be able to easily expand in the future when needed. This is why I strongly believe that the expansion of the terminal building should not go ahead until a more practical design is created.

Each and every day, thousands of passengers arrive and depart through St. John’s International Airport. This will then create havoc in certain areas, including, the departure lounge, security, and the restaurant and retail outlets. The current terminal was only designed to accommodate up to 900,000 passengers annually, but today, the airport serves over 1.5 million, 50% more passengers than the terminal is capable of handling. I believe that after the expansion is completed, the airport would run into the same problem as before, and need to expand again. This will then cause unnecessary spending and leave a financial burden on the airport authority for many years following the expansion. Instead of increasing the improvement fee that the passengers pay when the airport expands, they should reconsider the size and should add extra facilities to easily accommodate future growth when needed.

The current terminal building was designed in the early 2000s by a local architect firm with no experience planning or designing airports. Since the terminal and its facilities were only designed for 900,000 passengers annually, the airport became less functional as the passenger rate climbed. Throughout the day, you can expect to find cramped hallways, long lines, and unpleasant passengers, making the terminal less functional. After looking at the plans for the expansion, I realised that they are only renovating certain areas of the existing terminal building, but they are leaving some major problems not resolved. They are focusing more on how many planes it can handle, than the passengers needed to fill these planes in the future. I am certain that in the years to follow, the new terminal will not function as a whole, but in separate parts. I believe that eventually the airport would have to invest in building a new terminal… resulting in the improvement fee increasing and the passenger’s money being wasted once again!

St. John’s International Airport is located in-between many businesses and suburban neighbourhoods, which could make it difficult for them to expand the terminal and its facilities in the future. The current terminal building is oddly shaped, putting it in a bad situation for any further expansion. I am certain that if this expansion does go ahead, a new airport terminal would need to be built in a different location, capable of easily expanding and handling future growth. The airport authority should reconsider the location of the terminal and be aware of businesses and houses in the vicinity. Instead of building a new terminal a few years after the expansion is completed, they should relocate and build a new terminal now. This will save them the difficulty of building when costs are higher, and will also create less delays for the two million passengers expected by 2023. Also, the airport improvement fees will not increase for the second time… making the travelers and the airport authority happy!

Although there are some positive features of this expansion, I still strongly believe that the terminal expansion should not be completed until a more practical design is created. My generation will be benefiting from this expansion, and I’m not going to let other generations guide us on the wrong path (sorry if I sound too harsh). The airport authority certainly needs to reconsider this plan, looking more than ten years into the future. Hopefully, the expansion plan will be revised and save my generation the trouble of needing to expand it again in the near future. This is our airport… the gateway to our future!


Thanks! Hope you enjoyed it! Free to give feedback.... but not hate
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Old Posted Nov 6, 2014, 2:54 AM
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^ Very good, for grade nine or more. Have you compared it to other airports and how they handled expansion; also maybe it could be expanded by adding another level?
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2014, 9:13 PM
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Paradise transit

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The Deputy Mayor of Paradise is reopening the conversation about public transit. Paul Dinn says it's time to entertain an extension of Metrobus service into the growing town, or at the very least, introduce park-and-ride services for key destinations to help alleviate traffic pressure. Dinn says council is receptive to discussions.
Have any other details been publicly discussed? I'm wondering if direct talks with the Transit Commission have begun, and whether Mount Pearl has been included in any discussions up to now.
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2014, 2:24 PM
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Team Gushue Highway Extension Update

The over/under pass at Redmond's Rd is complete, construction trailer removed. Still needs ramp work, removal of bypass road, etc.

Old Pennywell Rd over/under pass progressing. Looks like the decking has been poured, no work on the deck-sides, so another 5 months or so and this one should be finished.

Construction has started on Blackmarsh Rd for the construction bypass. No sign of any tenders ffor over/under passes in that area.
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Great article, Juste.

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There's a new group on FB pushing for the return of streetcars:

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Old Posted Nov 12, 2014, 11:31 PM
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A big sale in the aerospace industry in St. Johns.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...deal-1.2832232
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This could be good news for Labrador as Winnipeg has a lot of experience maintaining flight service to remote northern communities. Their airport even has a special terminal for such flights.
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2014, 2:10 AM
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So I was watching the St. John's City Council Meeting and was surprised to hear the City Manager replies to a councillors questions -
Q - why is the Portugal Cove Road project taking so long, what is the timeline ?
A - we don't have a timeframe, we start the project and see how it goes.
Q - I pass that site everyday and see no activity for weeks on end?
A - the contractor has 3 projects on the go, so is only working part time on any one project.

That's the level of activity I've seen throughout the city the past year or so, all construction projects are part-time so are taking 3 or 4 times longer than they should. Water St. West has been in the slings all summer with little apparent progress, likewise Waterford Bridge Rd.

Is this normal construction practice in other place ? They also complain about bad weather delays, but don't take advantage of the good weather days on the weekends - last weekend for example, a great construction day on Saturday but no work seen on any of the major projects.
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So I was watching the St. John's City Council Meeting and was surprised to hear the City Manager replies to a councillors questions -
Q - why is the Portugal Cove Road project taking so long, what is the timeline ?
A - we don't have a timeframe, we start the project and see how it goes.
Q - I pass that site everyday and see no activity for weeks on end?
A - the contractor has 3 projects on the go, so is only working part time on any one project.

That's the level of activity I've seen throughout the city the past year or so, all construction projects are part-time so are taking 3 or 4 times longer than they should. Water St. West has been in the slings all summer with little apparent progress, likewise Waterford Bridge Rd.

Is this normal construction practice in other place ? They also complain about bad weather delays, but don't take advantage of the good weather days on the weekends - last weekend for example, a great construction day on Saturday but no work seen on any of the major projects.
Having to pay overtime for weekends is usually not worth it.

Contractors rarely go totally overboard on one project it's just not something that makes sense, unless one is willing to pay more for their time.


Anyways this road should never of been built.

The more roads you build out of the city the more our infrastructure gets spread out.

The city should really be making more plans for a transit based life style in the city.

It'll bring stability to housing market, bring business to down town, make the place desireable for newcomers etc.
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2014, 12:26 PM
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Having to pay overtime for weekends is usually not worth it.

Contractors rarely go totally overboard on one project it's just not something that makes sense, unless one is willing to pay more for their time.


Anyways this road should never of been built.

The more roads you build out of the city the more our infrastructure gets spread out.

The city should really be making more plans for a transit based life style in the city.

It'll bring stability to housing market, bring business to down town, make the place desireable for newcomers etc.
Portugal Cove Road should have never been built?
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Here is a map showing where you can park downtown.



http://www.downtownstjohns.com/wp-co...arking-Web.jpg
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2014, 3:03 PM
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Portugal Cove Road should have never been built?
My bad I thought you meant extensions to portugal cove-cbs- sprawly shore.


I know more than a few people who routinely say I would of never bought a home outside st john's if road construction etc was so bad.
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Old Posted Nov 18, 2014, 8:02 PM
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Having to pay overtime for weekends is usually not worth it.

Contractors rarely go totally overboard on one project it's just not something that makes sense, unless one is willing to pay more for their time.


Anyways this road should never of been built.

The more roads you build out of the city the more our infrastructure gets spread out.

The city should really be making more plans for a transit based life style in the city.

It'll bring stability to housing market, bring business to down town, make the place desireable for newcomers etc.
Not worth it to whom? Are construction workers paid for days they don't work, wouldn't they be interested in making up lost wages on a Saturday? What's the cost to everyone for long construction delays, damage to cars, extra gas waiting in long lines of traffic?

Why should the roads be torn up for 4 months when it could have been done in 1 month and then moved onto another project, rather than all projects being done at the same time and none finished for 6 months?

Isn't length to complete the job factored into deciding on tender award? Or is it that there's so few workers available that the construction companies call the shot? Is that why it takes 18 months to complete a simple overpass here?
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The construction on Portugal Cove Road....ugh. They patched everything back up but they may as well not have touched anything, it's ridiculous. That'll be getting tore up again now in April late July and started from scratch....again. And it'll probably end up the same as it is now. Circle of life.
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Oceanex yard

The Telegram has a story about the proposed Oceanex facility off of the CBS Bypass.

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Key to the plan is an interchange that would have to be built at a cost of $6.7-$10.1 million — at the upper end if the town of Paradise, which is on the other side of the bypass, to connect a road to it. Oceanex, which hasn’t approached the provincial government yet, says Paradise seems open to the idea, proposes a funding split of one-third from the province, one-third from Paradise, and one-third shared between Oceanex and St. John’s.
The City of St. John's should not spend a single penny on new road construction until it's amalgamated with Paradise and Mount Pearl.
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The Telegram has a story about the proposed Oceanex facility off of the CBS Bypass.



The City of St. John's should not spend a single penny on new road construction until it's amalgamated with Paradise and Mount Pearl.
I agree with this!
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Can someone post the full story? The telegram website has me blocked because I'm not subscribed.
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The Telegram reports that the mayor of C.B.S. isn't pleased with the proposed interchange.

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“To add an interchange on an already overloaded highway, to me, is a mistake,” said C.B.S. mayor Ken McDonald, adding the town hasn’t been consulted on the project. “We haven’t been shown anything. We haven’t been shown what the design is, anything like that.”

“I’m against it. I see it as a mistake … it’s fine for Oceanex to say they just want to be able to move their trailers and that to another location. But once that goes in, then it’s all the traffic from Paradise, which is a problem now, and it’s going to dump more onto the Manuels Access Road and make it complete roadblock, worse than it is now,” the mayor said.

A meeting with all stakeholders is necessary before the project goes any further, said McDonald.

“I’ve heard the design is already done on it, I’ve been told it’s a done deal,” he said. “I know traffic’s got to go somewhere, but there are other ways to do it.”
The proposed overpass would cross a provincial highway between Paradise and St. John's. Unless C.B.S. plans to directly contribute money to the construction of the interchange or the maintenance of the C.B.S. Bypass, the town isn't a stakeholder. Furthermore, if Route 2 is really overloaded, any work to increase its capacity should be funded with tolls.
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The Telegram reports that the mayor of C.B.S. isn't pleased with the proposed interchange.



The proposed overpass would cross a provincial highway between Paradise and St. John's. Unless C.B.S. plans to directly contribute money to the construction of the interchange or the maintenance of the C.B.S. Bypass, the town isn't a stakeholder. Furthermore, if Route 2 is really overloaded, any work to increase its capacity should be funded with tolls.
I drive that route most days and I honestly say it's not that bad. There are a couple of slowdown spots, other than that not too bad. The stretch of ORR between Topsail and Thorburn exits, IMO, is the worst for traffic congestion. I have experience driving the 417 through Ottawa during rush hour which makes commuting here a casual Sunday drive. With that being said, congestion is getting worse which is problematic.

I completely agree with you though. If CBS wants to be a player in this deal they need to be willing to contribute. This is a good example why we need better regional cooperation.
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