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Old Posted Mar 5, 2010, 9:52 PM
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Five words: trueviking troll Jets rumour false

Very false.
You're out of line. TV actually contributes to this forum. And is better connected in this town than I suspect you are (where do you live again?)
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2010, 10:01 PM
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^^^ Ask Hotwired to prove this remark "Five words: thomson chipman richardson coyotes soon." that Viking said was false.

Thompson - co-owner -> True
Chipman - co-owner -> True
Richardson - Rich and a real homer -> Unknown
Coyotes - the league owns them -> Unknown
Soon - could be a relative term -> Unknown
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^^^ Ask Hotwired to prove this remark "Five words: thomson chipman richardson coyotes soon." that Viking said was false.

Thompson - co-owner -> True
Chipman - co-owner -> True
Richardson - Rich and a real homer -> Unknown
Coyotes - the league owns them -> Unknown
Soon - could be a relative term -> Unknown
Where is TrueViking since he made that statement ??? Viking, where are you?
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First off Hotwire, TV is not a troll, it was totally not called for.

Even though these rumors spread like wildfire due to the internet and twitter it is not to say nothing is in the works. I believe where there is smoke there is fire. Just like when those denials of Ikea coming but only to turn out to be true.

Although if it is not gonna happen it does boost the moral of this city to some degree.
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Where is TrueViking since he made that statement ??? Viking, where are you?
probly working
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Phoenix to Winnipeg ?

From Hockeybuzz.com...
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I just received word of this less than 2 hours ago from people directly connected to the players in this incredible situation.

Now here is the catch-it's not written in stone. I know what I wrote in the title and below certainly proclaims a move. I believe it is almost assured and immanent from what I have been told but it's not official. It is not an official release from some one to me. It is a report from a very close person to the principals who has heard this is in place and ready to happen. The source told me over 90% as their stance of this move happening. If you knew who I was talking to you'd be writing it like I am...


If the old adage of 'where there is smoke there is fire' is true then in no situation has there been more smoke than in Winnipeg. Ever since a local radio station and programming director mentioned that the Thrashers were coming to Winnipeg the city has been abuzz. In the last few days the dailies have picked it up and even made mock articles about what prospective co-owner Mark Chipman didn't say at press conferences- all to infer that something might be up.

Well here it is: the scoop. The one that matters and the one you heard first. The Coyotes are coming not the Thrashers and yes, Mr. David Thomson is involved. The team will be moving to Winnipeg for next season and the thank god. At least this team has a fighting chance versus the previous rumoured option of Atlanta.

The deal is almost in place and there are a few details to be worked out but this is what I know.

First, there is a season ticket provision which Winnipeg will have to meet I don't know the numbers but there is a condition that will have to be met so for Winnipeg folks, get your wallets out.

Second, ownership is part of the True North Umbrella- this is not outside ownership using the Winnipeg location as a loss reducing location- this is full integration into the existing corporate structure of the arena and holdings.

Third, the team will not be called the Jets. Apparently there is a desire (from who I am not sure) that a new fresh start be made with a new name, brand and identity, any guesses?

Now, this is what I do not know but am trying to find out.

I do not know what arrangement has been made with the city of Glendale but I dare say David Thomson probably has enough money to make them happy. Regardless I don't have those key details and will be excited to learn. I have not heard what the details are with current MTS Centre tenant the Manitoba Moose, rumour has it they are going to Saskatoon and the Saskatoon Blades are going to Estavan SK.

There is no current plans for major realignment but it may make sense to take out Phoenix, oops Winnipeg, and add Vancouver to the Pacific division. However there could be other scenarios where great rivalries such as Vancouver and Calgary are not jeopardized, such as moving Colorado to the Pacific and adding Winnipeg to the NW much like it was 15 years ago. This could be fun to think about for awhile.

Regardless of what you think about Winnipeg and it's likelihood of survival as a NHL city, this move should be embraced for all the positives and not looked at as potentially negative. There is no doubt that David Thomson can pay the bills but more importantly it's what it costs to get the team and I imagine it's pretty darn cheap and less debt means the team has a better chance to be profitable. More importantly the city or Winnipeg is a hockey hotbed with nowhere near the ice capacity needed for players. No that does not sell tickets but it speaks of demand for the sport itself and that is something non-existant in Phoenix. Forget the major economic equations and concepts right now, but I have no doubt that even in the darkest days the franchise could have it will never be as bad as what has happened in Glendale.

With the highly aggressive moves made by the Coyotes at the trade deadline it makes me wonder if there is more going on there than we realize, at least operationally. Certainly other owners could not be happy to see a team they are funding being so aggressive with players and salaries, now and in the future, which they would be partially supporting from their own revenues. Could it be that the teams know the Coyotes are on the move and this is the last of the long term pain before they move to a dramatically reduced funding level next year and beyond?

All of these questions, with answers or not, simply lead to more- have enough owners tired of being welfare providers? Was there a coup within the BOG? What has the City of Glendale done that has allowed them to change their position? What else is going on with troubled franchises that we do not know?
Was the court battle this past year with Jim Balsillie, the NHL and Jerry Moyes to assure David Thomson the asset he wanted or is this move totally unrelated?

Did David Thomson wake up one morning and decide he finally wanted to be a NHL team owner? I doubt it. I know without a shred of doubt that friend and business partner Mark Chipman has worked with the NHL to position Winnipeg and his group as an obvious ownership candidate and location. It seems that his patience and tact have paid off as Mark Chipman with David Thomson have done something many thought would never happen again, they have brought the NHL back to Winnipeg!

It looks like all the Gary Bettman sightings in Winnipeg weren't so crazy after all. Mind you if you're not already calling me crazy you will if this doesn't happen, and probably a few more things I'd rather you not say

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Peter...ipeg/119/26818
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Interesting post Pegger5. This sounds like the same info that TV and I have heard regarding the Coyotes and not the Thrashers. Nice to see you have restored optimism and if this does not pan out I'm sure no one will jump all over your post

So basically, to everybody on here, I am sure no one is maliciously posting empty promises. We for the most part would like this team to come back and this should be a safe place to post our info/rumours to this topic.

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Can't wait...we are only hours away!!!
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Can't wait...we are only hours away!!!
I still think that you will have to "hang tight", as someone else puts it. I don't think that we will be hearing this supposed "announcement" for awhile yet. It will likely be after the Yotes are finished for the season.

Having said that, I hope I'm wrong and that it's sooner.
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It would be super nice if these rumors would just die already... It's really hard having to watch people get their hopes up only to have them destroyed days later..
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you link does not work
Now it does:

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This guy also has a WHL club (the Blades) going to Estevan, a 'city' of just over 10,000 people with a new arena that even with standing will have a capacity of 2800.
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This guy also has a WHL club (the Blades) going to Estevan, a 'city' of just over 10,000 people with a new arena that even with standing will have a capacity of 2800.
Yep, thats about where it fell apart. Its the same concept as what was going on with the Thrasers, only the team moving changed. So, I wonder if sometime in the next couple weeks it'll be the Tampa Bay Lightning moving north to Winnipeg? They were having some ownership problems, not sure if that ever got resolved or not.
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I just heard Kevin Donnely (CEO of MTS Centre) on TV. he was justifying the $225/ticket Simon & Garfunkel ticket prices, stating that "we have a smaller facility than a larger centre like Toronto."

If the Jets return, I would be prepared to pay up to $70/ticket, 3-4 times a year to see them, but if the price is over $100/ticket for the average seat, I may get scared off.
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I just heard Kevin Donnely (CEO of MTS Centre) on TV. he was justifying the $225/ticket Simon & Garfunkel ticket prices, stating that "we have a smaller facility than a larger centre like Toronto."

If the Jets return, I would be prepared to pay up to $70/ticket, 3-4 times a year to see them, but if the price is over $100/ticket for the average seat, I may get scared off.
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If the Jets return, I would be prepared to pay up to $70/ticket, 3-4 times a year to see them, but if the price is over $100/ticket for the average seat, I may get scared off.
Then you should really change your name as it gives the impression that you will support a new NHL team in Winnipeg under any circumstances. But with the statement you made above, it shows that even you have limits to how much you are willing to support a team in Winnipeg, and aren't as dedicated a fan as you make yourself out to be or think you are.

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Then you should really change your name as it gives the impression that you will support a new NHL team in Winnipeg under any circumstances. But with the statement you made above, it shows that even you have limits to how much you are willing to support a team in Winnipeg, and aren't as dedicated a fan as you make yourself out to be or think you are.

I'm just being realistic. I have other priorities. I loved the Jets and pray that they will return. However, placing the jets ahead of say Child Support payments, loans, etc. isn't being very realistic. I would buy Jets merchandise, cheer for them, etc. I just have to keep my budget balanced.
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found this laying in the back lane has some sorta signiture on it

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