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Old Posted Jun 20, 2014, 2:25 AM
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I think the building basically mirrors the ESB.
Exactly what I was thinking. This design feels like a fresh take on art deco with it's intersecting stepped sections. This is going to be a beautiful building.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2014, 3:21 AM
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I really like this tower's modern and sleek appearence and at 1450' this is going to really enhance the midtown skyline. Definitely my favorite proposal at the moment.
     
     
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Now that's what I'm talking about.
     
     
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We always get boxy in NYC. I assume its easier/cheaper to build.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2014, 12:49 AM
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We always get boxy in NYC. I assume its easier/cheaper to build.
I wouldn't call this tower "boxy".





But zoning regulations have a lot to do with design in New York. The Tower Verre for example had to jump through hoops, not for its height, but special permits to achieve that design. Those permits were recently renewed. Zoning tends to shape building here, as it will with this one...


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Beautiful tower

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Old Posted Jun 21, 2014, 1:02 AM
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It is boxy. Compared to the beauties above, the tower reeks of 1980's rehash.
Then you don't know boxy.
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It is boxy. Compared to the beauties above, the tower reeks of 1980's rehash.
Give me one example of a tower out of the 1980's that looks like the design for one vanderbilt.

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Old Posted Jun 21, 2014, 1:36 AM
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Give me one example of a tower out of the 1980 that looks anything like the design for one vanderbilt.
TransAmerica pyramid.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2014, 1:42 AM
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TransAmerica pyramid.




Besides the building getting smaller the further you go up, I really dont see any similarities.
     
     
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Transamerica pyramid was completed in 1972 and designed in the late 60's...

I think its a great design.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2014, 2:28 PM
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Want to see boxy?
Take a stroll down Avenue of the Americas around Rockefeller Plaza.

Go ahead while I admire the design of this tower.
The way this tower tapers up with several setbacks with a crowing spire is going to be compared more to Bank of America than to the nearby neighbor Chrysler Building.
     
     
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the spire look smal , can we see the growth of spire ??
     
     
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I'll pitch in to the design conversation.

I personally don't like the design. It's not a terrible one, it's just boring. Just because it has angles and a few setbacks, it doesn't mean it's worthy of being in NYC. The examples NYGuy gave us of the firm's other work shows us that we're getting gimped here (assuming this is the near final design). I think I'm getting spolied by the other great looking buildings we're getting like Tower Verre and 111 W 57th St. Compared to those, this looks like unfinished work, a mere rough draft.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2014, 10:26 PM
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Most of this tower will be hidden when viewed from afar.
The setbacks will be noticed when admiring the skyline.

I wouldn't complain if the design improves though!
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2014, 12:42 AM
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It's not a terrible one, it's just boring. Just because it has angles and a few setbacks, it doesn't mean it's worthy of being in NYC.....this looks like unfinished work, a mere rough draft.

I don't think it's worthy, at least as far as the crown goes, for the location. It's one of the best locations for a skyscraper, and an important place on the city's skyline near the iconic Chrysler Building. In the renders we've seen up to now, it's very generic looking, the design still a work in progress. As we move further along the approval process, the tower will get more refined. The completed design will get more complete, detailed renderings. But so far, what we are seeing is very generic. The site demands something special. Still, its one of my favorite proposals at the moment, because it brings a new excitement to the Grand Central area, which has become stale over the years with new developments going up everywhere else in Manhattan.































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Old Posted Jun 23, 2014, 1:15 AM
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It's one of the best locations for a skyscraper, and an important place on the city's skyline near the iconic Chrysler Building.


Incredible height, NYguy!!

I also agree of the strategic location on the skyline.
No matter where you are in the city, you will always know exactly where the Grand Central Terminal is just by looking at this tower.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2014, 3:24 AM
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I also agree of the strategic location on the skyline.
No matter where you are in the city, you will always know exactly where the Grand Central Terminal is just by looking at this tower.

I wonder which of these new towers, if any, along the Vanderbilt corridor or anywhere else in the area will be the first to incorporate a "Grand Central Place" or something into the name.

Anyway, it's a prime location, and one that will truly open to the public, with the observation space above giving us yet another new take on the skyline. I really can't wait,
but I know we are some years off. I'll take the new decks as they open, one at a time around Manhattan.



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The view from Hunter College around Park Ave will look completely transformed in a few years!
     
     
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