Atlanta Project Thread IV

[smArTaLlone]

https://atlanta.urbanize.city/post/m...ld-open-summer

With a name that pays homage to its original residential use, the revitalized, Spanish Colonial-inspired Hotel Granada will offer 120 rooms and a leafy open-air courtyard with multiple options for lounging, drinking, and dining.

The project’s goal, according to Chicago-based management firm Aparium Hotel Group, was to remake the 101-year-old Midtown landmark—most recently the Artmore Hotel—into a “destination that evokes the timeless elegance of a Western European retreat” and contrasts the district’s glassy skyline around it.

[cabasse]

Originally Posted by alco89

Allegedly there's a difference in philosophies between Portman Holdings and Portman Architects.

that makes sense, especially since this proposal is a SOM design.

[smArTaLlone]

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...uga-emory.html

Imagine a museum that showcases the future of space travel. The marvels of the human body. Advancements in robotics and innovations in farming.

This is the vision for a $100 million museum planned for Downtown Atlanta called FutureVerse.

Leaders at Georgia Tech, Emory University and University of Georgia are advising the project. They see an opportunity to expose more people to technology

The museum is still in planning, and the team has raised about $250,000, Wynett said.

The team hasn't selected a site for the museum. But Atlanta Business Chronicle confirmed it has had early talks with Centennial Yards, the $5 billion redevelopment of The Gulch next to Mercedes-Benz Stadium. FutureVerse is working with Cushman & Wakefield, according to an announcement.

The museum could span 150,000 square feet. It is projected to see 1.2 million visitors a year, according to an announcement.

Cooper Carry is the architect. A rendering provided to the Chronicle shows a curved building with rooftop attractions, including a garden.

[bryantm3]

I'm not against increased density re: Amsterdam Avenue. But 17 stories, breaking the tree line, multiple decks, and going out onto one street, Monroe— either via Evelyn or Amsterdam, it's just too much for that area. They have a fantastic ground level plan..Why can't they implement that with something that's six stories and doesn't need a deck? Middle ground is okay.

[bryantm3]

Re: Amsterdam Avenue, I don't even mind the 6-7 story apartment buildings they have rendered around the side. It's the two huge office towers that are so out of scale for the neighborhood. Even if you add Evelyn Street in, both of those exit onto Monroe which is the only way out of the neighborhood. Increased density is okay but it's not Midtown on that side of the park.

[Terminus]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

Re: Amsterdam Avenue, I don't even mind the 6-7 story apartment buildings they have rendered around the side. It's the two huge office towers that are so out of scale for the neighborhood. Even if you add Evelyn Street in, both of those exit onto Monroe which is the only way out of the neighborhood. Increased density is okay but it's not Midtown on that side of the park.

As a city, we should not allow major office buildings to be built in areas with no existing or committed rail transit - especially by a developer actively opposing rail on the BeltLine. Smaller office uses are fine - but these buildings are clearly focussed on cannibalizing existing larger office tenants from other submarkets.

[newuserbuckhead]

Oh no. Traffic. We should oppose all development because it might take me longer to get to the park and only I matter. Shut up. Development along the ENTIRE Beltline matters. Not just one small segment of it. There will eventually be rail along this segment. You act like there's no traffic in other major cities. People will figure it out here just like they do everywhere else in the world.

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

I'm not against increased density re: Amsterdam Avenue. But 17 stories, breaking the tree line, multiple decks, and going out onto one street, Monroe— either via Evelyn or Amsterdam, it's just too much for that area. They have a fantastic ground level plan..Why can't they implement that with something that's six stories and doesn't need a deck? Middle ground is okay.

Why is it too much for that area? It's on the Beltline, and less than a mile from very dense areas. We can't keep "preserving" single family home areas - it's completely unsustainable and worsens the housing crisis. Arguing against density in the heart of the city, citing traffic concerns, is straight out of the NIMBY playbook.

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by Terminus

ASmaller office uses are fine - but these buildings are clearly focussed on cannibalizing existing larger office tenants from other submarkets.

So, concentrating jobs along the Beltline in midtown, rather than suburban office parks? Sounds like a huge win to me. That being said, my preference would be for this to be 100% residential, but office space here absolutely makes sense too. We've seen how successful the office buildings have been further south on the Beltline.

[shivtim]

Potential mixed-use tower and bus hub could rise next to civic center station

Could include a Hilton hotel, workforce housing, and multiple bus bays. They are working with "the Stitch" on planning.

[Martinman]

Originally Posted by shivtim

So, concentrating jobs along the Beltline in midtown, rather than suburban office parks? Sounds like a huge win to me. That being said, my preference would be for this to be 100% residential, but office space here absolutely makes sense too. We've seen how successful the office buildings have been further south on the Beltline.

This would not be concentrated in Midtown. This is a very isolated location from Midtown. Without transit on the Beltline (which now appears unlikely any time in the near future) there are going to be nothing but thousands of car trips and an infrastructure that is in no way designed to handle it.

As far as the residential, I say go for it. Btw, only one if the towers is office space.

[shivtim]

Originally Posted by Martinman

This would not be concentrated in Midtown. This is a very isolated location from Midtown. Without transit on the Beltline (which now appears unlikely any time in the near future) there are going to be nothing but thousands of car trips and an infrastructure that is in no way designed to handle it.

It's not isolated at all. It's literally one of the most accessible places in the entire city by walking or biking, as it's directly on the Beltline and Piedmont Park. We have to shift away from this car-oriented thinking, and calling something "isolated" because it's not next to a huge stroad or interstate. If it causes traffic, so what? That will encourage more people to walk or bike.

[shivtim]

Building permit for 340 East Paces Ferry filed

(PHASE I) 340 EAST PACES: TOWER LEVELS 1 - 18 (COM)(CO)
PARKING DECK AND TOWER BUILDING (COM)(CO): This project is a 22-story residential tower (483-units)with ground floor retail and an 8-story parking deck. The scope of this permit is all above-grade architectural, mechanical, electrical and plumbing elements. As well as the concrete frame on levels 4-22.

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by shivtim

It's not isolated at all. It's literally one of the most accessible places in the entire city by walking or biking, as it's directly on the Beltline and Piedmont Park. We have to shift away from this car-oriented thinking, and calling something "isolated" because it's not next to a huge stroad or interstate. If it causes traffic, so what? That will encourage more people to walk or bike.

It's not about me getting to the park. It'a about that neighborhood. They tried to put an interstate through it in the 60s and it got saved. And now Californians and other high rollers are moving in and wrecking all the bungalows, turning them into McMansions. They are taking the neighborhood and it is terrible. It is a place that felt like home and it is feeling less and less like that. I'm upset because home is disappearing.

I would ask, why do you want to see Atlanta grow in a way that destroys the nice things we already have? Isn't it depressing to realize that we're selling the city that we love off to the "world class" crowd?

I am okay with new development when we have a lot of shitty places that could use something like this. Va-Hi doesn't need the extra money. It's so flush with cash it's rotting. Spread the dough around a little

[shivtim]

Agree to disagree. Not going to have this debate in this forum.

[Martinman]

Originally Posted by shivtim

It's not isolated at all. It's literally one of the most accessible places in the entire city by walking or biking, as it's directly on the Beltline and Piedmont Park. We have to shift away from this car-oriented thinking, and calling something "isolated" because it's not next to a huge stroad or interstate. If it causes traffic, so what? That will encourage more people to walk or bike.

We aren't going to shift away from car-oriented thinking by building an office building in random locations and expecting more than a fraction of people to access it by anything other than their cars. That's just not based in reality.

[Username123]

The suggestion that this location is random is not based in reality

[cabasse]

NIMBYs, here?

i think they should reduce the amount of parking but this is already a commercial area that abuts the beltline, and this is going to replace what is currently a strip mall with an urban retail district. no existing SFH are being torn down. it seems like a great project in a good location personally.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

It does have a sense of NIMBY. Especially the arguments about losing Atlanta character because of this building that is only being built on a strip mall. But even if we had the attitude that certain neighborhoods should never change ever because they are 'perfect' already then the mansion district of Midtown would have never become what it is today.

Every waking moment of existence the world is changing at the smallest scales to the largest scales. It is impossible for things to stay the same forever, and nostalgia should not be a barrier to expanding housing and jobs in certain areas especially anywhere along the beltline.

[Julien]

Hotel Granada moving along at a Dewberry +1 pace.



Hanover Midtown closing in.