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Old Posted Sep 3, 2024, 8:02 PM
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Maybe they want to keep them as billboards? Otherwise they're glorified art pieces.
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There doesn't seem to be anything in the development permit addressing it. More likely they stay and they won't become safety hazards for 50-75 years considering their current condition.

https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/1780-...port-final.pdf
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Strand has submitted to rezone 360 W 2nd for a 19 storey tower with 7 storey podium. This is essentially sticking a 12 storey residential tower on top of the current 7 storey proposal.
Residential isn’t permitted for the site under the Metro Vancouver’s industrial designation and in turn the Broadway Plan and also almost doubles the Broadway Plan’s maximum density.
The site is within the Olympic Village Stn TOD 400m ring which is going to be their argument to try and have this allowed.

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360 W 2nd Avenue To rezone from I1-C to CD-1 to allow for the development of a 19 storey mixed-use building over a 7 storey podium with a mix of uses; industrial, office, and rental residential. An FSR of 11.37 and a building height of 67.3 m (211 ft.) are proposed. This application also requires an Official Development Plan amendment and Regional Growth Strategy amendment.
https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public...ctId=239271611
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Old Posted Sep 3, 2024, 11:12 PM
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There doesn't seem to be anything in the development permit addressing it. More likely they stay and they won't become safety hazards for 50-75 years considering their current condition.

https://vancouver.ca/files/cov/1780-...port-final.pdf
i dont think theyd be in the development permit. theyve always been on the street RoW, and still are. seems like it would more be part of the CoV general streets work. theyd probably like the sidewalk space to.
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Crane is up for the new PNE amphitheatre. You can sort of see the construction site in this video from three days ago

https://www.instagram.com/p/C_XJz3CxDZP/
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I don't know if it was mentioned but there are 3 new highrises proposed in East Van



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Old Posted Sep 4, 2024, 8:15 PM
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the 6 story Rental at 2nd ave & Fir is now U/C with excavation underway!

the retail will be great for the area.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/1595...rental-housing



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Hideous, especially when located right across Arthur Erickson's Waterfall Building. Rather they built taller and followed the curved north edge of the property to replace the shitty inside-corner units with units facing the city/mountains, and have the 2nd floor terrace face southwest instead of being in shadow all day
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I don't believe the zoning allows them to build taller in that site.

I could be wrong, though.

There's nothing taller than 6 storeys in that general area until you get to the creekside or past the Armory district to the west and northwest.

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Is there anything special about the Waterfall Building that should prevent a much more interesting-looking development of equal size/shape from going up across from it?
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Frankly, Waterfall just like most Arthur Erickson designs has not aged well in my humble opinion. A nice new building like this would be great in the region.

It's nice to know that this development won't remove the RoW for a theoretical future streetcar line and maybe, just maybe, it starts to introduce density to justify one.
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He just had an opinion on the form of development not the fact that the land is being developed.

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The False Creek Comprehensive Development District (FCCDD), Area 10B, Site F permits a building up to 6
storeys. The proposed is 6 storeys plus rooftop amenity. The proposed roof top amenity has been excluded based on
Section10.1.1 of the Zoning and Development By-law
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Hideous, especially when located right across Arthur Erickson's Waterfall Building. Rather they built taller and followed the curved north edge of the property to replace the shitty inside-corner units with units facing the city/mountains, and have the 2nd floor terrace face southwest instead of being in shadow all day
Waterfall is a buzzkill for streetlife. Whatever retail there is doesn't reside at curbside, its tucked deep in the building. And it is a twee tea shop and a pot shop. How fitting.

Nothing listed there so one can't see the maintenance fees but I wouldn't want to be paying to keep that waterfall in working order.
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He just had an opinion on the form of development not the fact that the land is being developed.
And said form of development should apparently all be stacked to the side... to keep the sunlight on a water feature?
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Waterfall is a buzzkill for streetlife. Whatever retail there is doesn't reside at curbside, its tucked deep in the building. And it is a twee tea shop and a pot shop. How fitting.

Nothing listed there so one can't see the maintenance fees but I wouldn't want to be paying to keep that waterfall in working order.
Buzzkill pays the rent to pay for the waterfall
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And said form of development should apparently all be stacked to the side... to keep the sunlight on a water feature?
Waterfall is to the south of the new building, so it won't be affected at all in terms of sunlight. It looks like the new rental building might be wood frame construction, and if so it wouldn't be cost effective to go any higher, as it would have to be concrete construction. And whatnext is wrong about Waterfall's retail, it's on the street edge as well as in the courtyard.
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It's woodframe with I assume a concrete retail base.

https://www.kindredconstruction.com/...80-fir-street/
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He just had an opinion on the form of development not the fact that the land is being developed.
Pretty much. This is the West Side, one block from the water... what is wood frame construction and south-of-Fraser-level design doing here? (Even for a rental building)
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Pretty much. This is the West Side, one block from the water... what is wood frame construction and south-of-Fraser-level design doing here? (Even for a rental building)
That's their specialty.

https://www.bha.ca/work/The-Kaslo
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There should be density bonuses for developments that aim to look pre-1930s.
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I don't know if it was mentioned but there are 3 new highrises proposed in East Van
I wonder if Westbank goes ahead with it right away considering their financial condition.

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Permit Location: 1168 E HASTINGS STREET, Vancouver, BC V6A 1S2

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Work Description: 1168-1180 East Hastings Street (Connected to Applications RZ-2024-00042 - 1030-1070 East Hastings Street and RZ-2024—00040 - 1115-1127 East Hastings Street) - Application recently submitted. Staff preparing notification - To rezone from M-1 to CD-1 to allow for the development of a 19 storey social housing building with ground floor commercial and 157 units under the DTES Plan. An FSR of 10.4 and a building height of 59.3 m (195 ft.) are proposed. The proposal exceeds the anticipated height and density in the DTES Plan.

Type of Work: New CD-1
https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public...ctId=232634599
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