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Old Posted Jul 7, 2026, 12:38 PM
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I wouldn't expect the Sea Bears to leave CLC even if this new arena gets built. Downtown is a great location for them.

I'm curious if a smaller arena could unlock a different tier of concerts. Right now our concert venues jump in capacity from 1,600 at Burton Cummings up to 16,000 at CLC. There's an entire tier of artists that are too big for the Burt but too small for CLC. (there's also the concert hall at 2,300 but not an ideal spot for lots of bands)

You couldn't validate an entire arena just based on these shows but it would help fill out a calendar. I imagine this is largely what True North would take issue with though. I'm sure they'd rather undersell their own arena than watch shows go elsewhere.
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2026, 3:23 PM
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CLC definitely hosts lots of the shows that are over 1500 and under 6000. That sort of describes most of the shows with lower bowl and floor access. It depends a fair bit too on how far in from the end of the rink the stage is pulled. For example you could potentially have the stage on the blue line near the premium lower bowl seating area looking that way and make a much more intimate feel. At some point though it just stops making sense to pull the stage forward v letting there be empty seats.
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2026, 5:17 PM
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The non-compete clause needs to be abolished. TNSE has a stranglehold on the City already. A small arena maybe drawing a curling bonspiel or some lower level hockey surely is not stealing TNSE's lunch.
The MOU between the City and True North expires in 2029.
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Study of proposed new arena for Naawi-Oodena could get city funding
Exclusivity agreement with True North may prohibit support for larger venue


Cameron MacLean · CBC News · Posted: Jul 06, 2026

A group of Manitoba First Nations are proposing to build a new arena at Winnipeg's largest urban reserve — and the idea's generating interest at city hall.

A proposal to explore building a new community arena at Naawi-Oodena in south Winnipeg is moving through city hall. Supporters say the new facility would address a shortage of available ice rinks in the city.

Last week, the city centre community committee voted to spend $95,000 from the Land Dedication Reserve Fund on a feasibility study for a proposed arena at the Indigenous-led development on the former Kapyong Barracks lands.

Documentation presented to the committee said the current plan is to build a 6,000-seat facility with multiple ice sheets, plus related amenities. The city has shown interest in renting ice time to support its public skating programs, the documents said.

The funding for the study requires approval from Mayor Scott Gillingham's executive policy committee and city council. EPC is set to consider the matter on Tuesday.

The facility would be built at the southeast corner of Taylor Avenue and Kenaston Boulevard.

The study would examine potential costs, servicing needs, traffic, site access and infrastructure needed to support the project, said River Heights-Fort Garry Coun. John Orlikow.

"We need more sheets of ice, because kids right now are going out to play hockey, or ringette, or figure skating, or wherever, outside the city,” Orlikow said.

“So I thought [it was] a great opportunity to.... provide some funds to the Treaty One and we can see if we can partner together to provide those sheets of ice."

City planners had recommended denying the funding request because it doesn't meet the eligibility criteria for the Land Dedication Reserve Fund, which is intended to support the acquisition, development or construction of parks and recreation facilities on city property.

Orlikow said he supported waiving the rules because, although the arena would not be built on city-owned land, Winnipeggers would still benefit from it.

Hockey Manitoba also expressed support for exploring the project.

"There is a clear need for more accessible community recreation space in all of Manitoba, including Winnipeg — including ice time for children, youth, families and local sport organizations," Hockey Manitoba CEO Trevor Buhnai said in a written statement.

Buhnai added any proposal should undergo feasibility testing, including an assessment of demand, transportation, capital and operating costs, accessibility and long-term sustainability.

“But in principle, we support serious work to expand community access to sport and recreation, particularly when it is Indigenous-led and community-focused,” he wrote.

One potential obstacle for the project could be an exclusivity agreement signed with True North, which council approved in 2001 as part of the development of what is now Canada Life Centre.

The agreement gives True North exclusive negotiation and development rights over government-funded major sports and entertainment facilities in Winnipeg for 25 years after the arena opened. Orlikow said the agreement expires in 2029.

As a result, Orlikow said the city-funded feasibility study will only examine a community arena, not a larger event venue, unless that issue is resolved with True North.

CBC News requested comment from True North and Treaty One, but no one was available before publication.
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2026, 2:29 PM
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this arena could be a cool opportunity to get another medium sized concert venue in the city for those acts that are too big for the burt but can't fill canada life.
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this arena could be a cool opportunity to get another medium sized concert venue in the city for those acts that are too big for the burt but can't fill canada life.
Absolutely, and could definitely be a great opportunity for another group to run a PWHL franchise.

Similar to an earlier post, I have heard through the grapevine of TNSE executive chatter that a PWHL team would be untenable at CLC from the logistics side. Having to juggle the Jets and Moose schedules doesn't leave much opportunity for PWHL games at reasonable time slots. Plus a PWHL franchise will probably pull a lot from the Moose fanbase rather than open a whole new fanbase entirely, which might be another reason TNSE might not jump on that.
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Absolutely, and could definitely be a great opportunity for another group to run a PWHL franchise.

Similar to an earlier post, I have heard through the grapevine of TNSE executive chatter that a PWHL team would be untenable at CLC from the logistics side. Having to juggle the Jets and Moose schedules doesn't leave much opportunity for PWHL games at reasonable time slots. Plus a PWHL franchise will probably pull a lot from the Moose fanbase rather than open a whole new fanbase entirely, which might be another reason TNSE might not jump on that.
Wasn't the plan to move the Moose to Thunder Bay if they ever built a new arena there? Also, isn't the PWHL demanding 10k minimum seats?
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Similar to an earlier post, I have heard through the grapevine of TNSE executive chatter that a PWHL team would be untenable at CLC from the logistics side. Having to juggle the Jets and Moose schedules doesn't leave much opportunity for PWHL games at reasonable time slots. Plus a PWHL franchise will probably pull a lot from the Moose fanbase rather than open a whole new fanbase entirely, which might be another reason TNSE might not jump on that.
In terms of PWHL, the league owns all the teams. Based on the locations of the original teams it seemed Winnipeg was well positioned to be in the next wave, if the local market would support it.

As established though, TNSE does not seem to have much interest in helping facilitate that. The report that PWHL wants 10,000 seat venues is why I suggested that Naawi-Oodena may want to consider a design for their purposed 6000 seat arena that includes a designed expansion to add 4000 seats, perhaps as an upper deck, at a later date if needed. Having a plan designed from the start on how and expansion would work could make it a lot easier to action later on than afterthoughts like the old Winnipeg Arena expansion. Also a 6k to with a 10k option might check the boxes the PWHL is looking for. While it is not a clean 10k it lets them play in the market and establish a fan base with room to grow.
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If the agreement expires in 2029 with TNSE, what's even the problem then. By the time this venue would open, it will be beyond 2029 for sure.
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In terms of PWHL, the league owns all the teams. Based on the locations of the original teams it seemed Winnipeg was well positioned to be in the next wave, if the local market would support it.

As established though, TNSE does not seem to have much interest in helping facilitate that. The report that PWHL wants 10,000 seat venues is why I suggested that Naawi-Oodena may want to consider a design for their purposed 6000 seat arena that includes a designed expansion to add 4000 seats, perhaps as an upper deck, at a later date if needed. Having a plan designed from the start on how and expansion would work could make it a lot easier to action later on than afterthoughts like the old Winnipeg Arena expansion. Also a 6k to with a 10k option might check the boxes the PWHL is looking for. While it is not a clean 10k it lets them play in the market and establish a fan base with room to grow.
Fair point, the Ottawa team is having issues with the league because they wanted to downsize to a mid 5000 seat (5500? 5800?) arena, so there's probably a lower limit for the league in what they consider acceptable.

If this arena goes ahead I would hope that factor is considered, and I agree that easy expansion or a two bowl system to be able to have ~6000 spectator and ~10000 spectator events fairly easily would be optimal. I guess they have to identify who the primary tenant(s) will be and what their needs will look like.
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