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Old Posted Jul 21, 2014, 5:02 AM
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Rendering for "701 Sherman St." There is a listing for "707 Sherman" in the Denver Development Services Project Report that describes the project as a 8 story 105 unit apartment. I think this may be it. Thought?




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Old Posted Jul 21, 2014, 5:09 AM
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Also from Craine Architecture is a rending for "Grant House." The Denver Development Services Project Report has a 12 apartment project listed for 19th and Grant. The existing building in the rending matches the extending building on Grant St. Again not sure if this is the actual rendering or only a concept but something is better than nothing.



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Old Posted Jul 21, 2014, 1:32 PM
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Does anyone know what's going on at 8th and Sherman, just a block up from the rendering posted above?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 21, 2014, 1:46 PM
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Does anyone know what's going on at 8th and Sherman, just a block up from the rendering posted above?
I asked the same thing a few pages back, if I remember it's a 5 or 6 story apartment building.
     
     
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Also from Craine Architecture is a rending for "Grant House." The Denver Development Services Project Report has a 12 apartment project listed for 19th and Grant. The existing building in the rending matches the extending building on Grant St. Again not sure if this is the actual rendering or only a concept but something is better than nothing.


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Dude good job finding these. I think the 19th and Grant site might be another McWhinney project. I noticed on CREJ.com that they purchased one of the lots on this block. Could be an actual project. Only time will tell.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 21, 2014, 6:14 PM
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Also from Craine Architecture is a rending for "Grant House." The Denver Development Services Project Report has a 12 apartment project listed for 19th and Grant. The existing building in the rending matches the extending building on Grant St. Again not sure if this is the actual rendering or only a concept but something is better than nothing.



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This would be a great infill if it actually happens. The more lots within Uptown that can be developed means there will be more likelihood that the big sea of parking lots near 19th and Lincoln will eventually be turned into something. Hoping for a domino effect!
     
     
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Investing in higher education is very difficult, due in part, to how universities divvy up the financial pie.

Private funding is totally different, as private money can be targeted at the request of the giver as it is a "gift" rather than being considered "funding."
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The plan would be for 20% to go to the CU Boulder campus and the other 80% to go for the acceleration of the Auraria Master Plan.
The "acceleration of the Auraria Master Plan" means Construction Projects: Buildings and classrooms. Additionally certain infrastructure needs to be upgraded so I should also add the City/County of Denver as a contributor.

Arizona/ASU was merely used as an example. They hired a "rock star" from Ohio State for their President and he set in motion putting ASU on the map. Just as Philip Anschutz took the lead when CU moved and created a whole new Med School and campus so too there were a few key long term successful developers that were ready to leave substantial legacy donations for building new facilities. So like Anschutz with the new Med School, private donors were very much a key component.

As for B1/B2 visas I have no issues with them. With manufacturing and R&D facilities from the likes of Intel, Micron Tech, Western Digital and ON Semiconductor there's are lots of those from India. ASU does attract many Foreign students.

ASU (I'd guess) added over $1.5 billion in new facilities over the last decade. They took a "Build it and they will come" approach and as far as I Know they didn't limit who "they" were or where they came from.

Why take three decades or longer to execute on the Auraria Master Plan if it can be done much quicker?
The Auraria campus can be a Big contributor to the downtown Denver urban fabric as well as to the economy.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 5:06 AM
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This would be a great infill if it actually happens. The more lots within Uptown that can be developed means there will be more likelihood that the big sea of parking lots near 19th and Lincoln will eventually be turned into something. Hoping for a domino effect!
Agree and agree.


Speaking of which, so this is similar to what Brad Buchanan thinks Araphoe Square should look like?


conin.seattle.gov - proposed rendering of South Lake Union development in Seattle
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Did you guys see this? 12,533 units total between complete since 2012 / UC / Proposed just in the 1.5 mile radius. This doesn't include Cherry Creek, etc. Crazy amount of multi-family!

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The "acceleration of the Auraria Master Plan" means Construction Projects: Buildings and classrooms. Additionally certain infrastructure needs to be upgraded so I should also add the City/County of Denver as a contributor.

Arizona/ASU was merely used as an example. They hired a "rock star" from Ohio State for their President and he set in motion putting ASU on the map. Just as Philip Anschutz took the lead when CU moved and created a whole new Med School and campus so too there were a few key long term successful developers that were ready to leave substantial legacy donations for building new facilities. So like Anschutz with the new Med School, private donors were very much a key component.

As for B1/B2 visas I have no issues with them. With manufacturing and R&D facilities from the likes of Intel, Micron Tech, Western Digital and ON Semiconductor there's are lots of those from India. ASU does attract many Foreign students.

ASU (I'd guess) added over $1.5 billion in new facilities over the last decade. They took a "Build it and they will come" approach and as far as I Know they didn't limit who "they" were or where they came from.

Why take three decades or longer to execute on the Auraria Master Plan if it can be done much quicker?
The Auraria campus can be a Big contributor to the downtown Denver urban fabric as well as to the economy.
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I have issues with the B1/B2 visas because domestic talent needs to be developed ASAP.

Large numbers of US males between age 30 and 50, thought at age 16, that the software revolution would enable them to make a good living, if they learned on their own and spent thousands of hours in front of their computers. IMO, as young people have always been gullible, that most of those who did so were reacting to dumb *** movies, vacuous talking heads on TV, and innumerable gee whiz magazine articles, who extolled the virtue of the garage genius who created a multibillion dollar company from humble beginnings. This, is true, for the one out of 10,000 or so of those who committed themselves to success by this route.

Until corporations started using large numbers of B1/B2 visas, many of these now slightly older people got the entry positions (often without any degree) and, a considerable number moved up the technical chain. This reinforced the mass media's selling of this rag to riches lifestyle to those still teenagers.

Now we too often face the reality that an engineering degree, and, a masters degree are what the corporate world wants for entry level positions. In addition, with B1/B2 visas and the growth of (mostly) Indian corporations who actively market Indian engineers to US businesses, the laws of supply and demand have radically lowered the compensation for entry and middle level technical jobs.

IMO, this process, bottom line, is lowering both our GDP and our long term competitiveness.

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The university and college facility building boom, IMO, is more a result of academic institutions competing among themselves for students, in an era of almost no growth in the number of college students nationwide. I suspect much of this has to do with impressing 17 and 18 year olds with how much "chrome" is on the academic vehicle (of course increased professor bragging rights over their new multimillion dollar building doesn't hurt either).

All this during a time when the cost of getting a university degree has inflated at a faster rate than even the catastrophic inflation in the medical business!

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What is needed simply is to adjust the real world supply and demand by creating short term personnel shortages and simultaneously making learning such skills far more affordable.

IMO, if a US student sees that if he or she works very hard at learning very complex skills at a university, if student loans total a small sum at graduation, and, if good jobs are available, then a large number will take advantage of the opportunity.

As you know, in the sciences it is not what the building looks like, but a combination of teacher quality and resources for the undergraduate and masters level student to use.
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I have issues with the B1/B2 visas because domestic talent needs to be developed ASAP.

Large numbers of US males between age 30 and 50, thought at age 16, that the software revolution would enable them to make a good living, if they learned on their own and spent thousands of hours in front of their computers. IMO, as young people have always been gullible, that most of those who did so were reacting to dumb *** movies, vacuous talking heads on TV, and innumerable gee whiz magazine articles, who extolled the virtue of the garage genius who created a multibillion dollar company from humble beginnings. This, is true, for the one out of 10,000 or so of those who committed themselves to success by this route.

Until corporations started using large numbers of B1/B2 visas, many of these now slightly older people got the entry positions (often without any degree) and, a considerable number moved up the technical chain. This reinforced the mass media's selling of this rag to riches lifestyle to those still teenagers
'da fuck? There's a large percentage of young US males out there who have been honing their software skillset at home with the intent of creating the next FB? Hold on, let me check our IT department to see if this legion is what makes the magic boxes work.
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'da fuck? There's a large percentage of young US males out there who have been honing their software skillset at home with the intent of creating the next FB? Hold on, let me check our IT department to see if this legion is what makes the magic boxes work.
They quit being interested when the handwriting was on the wall.

As you know it takes years to develop the skill set, and a mix of experience and education.

What we are doing, now, under the umbrella of Globulization simply is eating our seed corn.

What needs to happen is to alter the "you get what you paid for" up the scale by decreasing the availability of imported talent that gets enough money to live the INDIAN dream in India, while working short term in the US.

And, yes, your IT department very like SHOULD pay more.
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Did you guys see this? 12,533 units total between complete since 2012 / UC / Proposed just in the 1.5 mile radius. This doesn't include Cherry Creek, etc. Crazy amount of multi-family!
Before people start screaming bubble, let's remember that ~15,000 people per year are moving to Denver.

We have to subtract out non-core growth. Let's look at 2013 - Denver issued about 1,300 single family building permits, plus 200 duplexes. That accounts for roughly 5,000 of the new people. So we're looking at 10,000 new people per year moving into multi-family units of some sort. Which means we're building right about what we need to, maybe not quite enough considering pent up demand for Denver living, just to keep up.
     
     
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Before people start screaming bubble, let's remember that ~15,000 people per year are moving to Denver.

We have to subtract out non-core growth. Let's look at 2013 - Denver issued about 1,300 single family building permits, plus 200 duplexes. That accounts for roughly 5,000 of the new people. So we're looking at 10,000 new people per year moving into multi-family units of some sort. Which means we're building right about what we need to, maybe not quite enough considering pent up demand for Denver living, just to keep up.

From a supply and demand standpoint as reflected in rent price increases, apartments being built should be a little less than the increasing demand. IMO, this is where the multiple dwelling market is in Denver, if one figures in the small, but, real, number of multi dwelling apartment units* are being withdrawn from the market for whatever reason.

*Most are at the small end of the multi unit size spectrum.
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I have issues with the B1/B2 visas because domestic talent needs to be developed ASAP.

IMO, this process, bottom line, is lowering both our GDP and our long term competitiveness.
All due respect to your wonderful thinking, but it's a global economy in tech so it's mostly about the technology and costs.

With the exception of a few like Intel and Micron (in memory) who are leading edge tech creators, manufacturing has long since moved to Asia. Google tried to make smart phones in Texas and it flopped. After all soo many parts still need to come from Asia.

Intel, aside from their legacy dominance in servers, has yet to demonstrate any chops in the mobile space. Their $5 billion Fab 42 in Chandler AZ has yet to be equipped for production. Qualcomm's dominance in the Android space remains as nobody can match their SOC's. They utilize Taiwan Semiconductor for fabrication presently. Apple has used Samsung to manufacture their 'A' series chip sets (though they may be moving to Taiwan Semi) and of course Foxconn does all the assembly.

Moving into the future until Intel can prove their Tri-Gate 14 nm tech viable and make SOC's that are useful they're a bystander. Taiwan Semi and Samsung are moving to manufacture in the 16-20 nm space.

Meanwhile there are a bunch of "white box" OEM's in China that are content to work in the 2G/3G space. One in particular has attained "Rock Star" status like Apple b/c of their cool but cheap smart phones. China is approaching having more smart phone users than the population of the U.S. Then there's the rest of the developing world to compete in.

So whether it takes visas or not it's good to be thankful for the manufacturing that still exists domestically.
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Before people start screaming bubble, let's remember that ~15,000 people per year are moving to Denver.
My concern is not about the overall demand so much as the price point needed to continue to fill the downtown projects... as you have also addressed.

I'll continue to be grateful for every new project that makes it out of the ground as the party tray will surely be pulled back at some point.
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What we are doing, now, under the umbrella of Globulization simply is eating our seed corn.

What needs to happen is to alter the "you get what you paid for" up the scale by decreasing the availability of imported talent that gets enough money to live the INDIAN dream in India, while working short term in the US.
While I'm all for not being policeman to the world, an isolationist policy will not work in Academia or in manufacturing. That train already left the station. You could choose not to compete I suppose.

But we still lead the planet, for the most part, in software development, which is cheap and easy to reproduce. But as the IoT (Internet of Things) world continues to evolve then you're back to cost of production.

Consider though that Apple is quite content being one of the most profitable companies in the world and they don't manufacture anything. Likewise Qualcomm and many others.

Meanwhile Arizona has made a large commitment to compete. Intel and Micron, who supported the strategy seem pleased. Additionally two Silicon Valley companies have recently announced expanding into Phoenix (metro) with office space for 300 and 500 employees respectively.

My proposal for expediting the Auraria Masterplan wasn't so much about engineering or exclusive to science.
In any event, either you choose to compete or you're a bystander in tomorrow's landscape.
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Ryan, Denargo market phase II is currently moving dirt right now.
     
     
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Ryan, Denargo market phase II is currently moving dirt right now.
Where exactly is Phase II going? I haven't done any research on this one. I'm assuming it's going to be 5-stories, blah blah blah, just like the first one. Anyways, thanks for the heads up. I'll have to go check it out.
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