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Old Posted Oct 11, 2007, 2:08 PM
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Ah poor Miami, i would still buy a condo there, no doubt about that, love the city...

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It does look like Dubai, but I just don't buy into the claim that all these units, rented or purchased, will be occupied by the end of 2008 so "all is fine". I love Miami. I think it is the most International city in North America with the exception of New York, (actually Manhattan). But that fact will not fill the 60K apartments about to come on line.

And to be a major downer.... eventually a class 5 Hurricane is going to hit the City, and the value of those high rise units will plumment from 500k to the highest bidder at auction as people realize Miami is a short term investment at best.
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It does look like Dubai, but I just don't buy into the claim that all these units, rented or purchased, will be occupied by the end of 2008 so "all is fine". I love Miami. I think it is the most International city in North America with the exception of New York, (actually Manhattan). But that fact will not fill the 60K apartments about to come on line.

And to be a major downer.... eventually a class 5 Hurricane is going to hit the City, and the value of those high rise units will plumment from 500k to the highest bidder at auction as people realize Miami is a short term investment at best.

We are doomed ! Perhaps, I should just jump out of my 21st floor condo right now.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2007, 8:14 PM
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Nooo Miami is doing perfectly fine...
These buildings are made to withstand catastrophic Hurricanes..the State of Florida has strict restrictions especially the city of Miami..even the Windows of all these buildings can withstand winds and impact past 200MPH. Buildings are thick and pure concrete no steel ..recently a tornado ripped through 900 biscayne and amazingly 900 broke the passageway of the tornado in half saving hundreds of people that were at the bayfront who were in the middle of a concert.. these buildings could be bunkers...
here is the tornado vid.youtube.
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from wikipedia

anything built after 2004 are impact resistant..If windows break thats because that building was built before the restriction..This city has gone through many Hurricanes..2 in 2005 not much damage in downtown..Katrina,Wilma...
If you want to see how Miami is doing as far as filling these condos check this which came out a few days ago..
Miami experiencing population boom
videohttp://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=164848

articlehttp://www.nbc6.net/news/14293477/detail.html#
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2007, 8:24 PM
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another try for the vid of tornado..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svj8FMAUnEg
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And to be a major downer.... eventually a class 5 Hurricane is going to hit the City, and the value of those high rise units will plumment from 500k to the highest bidder at auction as people realize Miami is a short term investment at best.
A category 5 hurricane already hit Miami in 1992. We seem to have recovered fine from that.
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2007, 6:51 PM
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Anyone have any updated pics. Would love to see all the new progress...

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Old Posted Oct 31, 2007, 10:52 PM
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And has anyone noticed the US economy is shitting the bed and oil prices are at 94.53??? Construction costs continue to SKYROCKET!!!!! Concrete and Steel, Concrete and Steel just costs to damn much....

I'm sorry but the picture is not pretty for MIA.... I'm not saying the sky is falling but we have to start to be realistic here. The party is over big time. What will happen when oil is 120 a barrel next spring??

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Old Posted Nov 1, 2007, 12:38 AM
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If all they did was finish the building they already started, most of us would be happy. It's been a huge boom. That is already transforming many parts of the city. Parts of the city that are more urban with better access to transit and shopping.

I still don't see a negative.
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2007, 12:45 AM
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Right I understand, but is the boom sustainable, or what happens when this recession hits you like that fucking defensive lineman's knee hit Trent Green's head???

I mean Brickell look at the signs, a big recession is coming, that coupled with a hugely overbuilt real estate market that is plummeting could be a serious blow to South Florida.

I mean I know you've got hot chicks with bangin bodies and porn dudes filming in your lovely city but that ain't gunna save your ass. Hey Cali is going down too, so I don't think it is just a MIA.

Everything is not rosy my friend. I mean does So. Florida have a good public trans system for when oil is 130 a barrel??? I think not. So it isn't just going to be Miami but all of the Sunbelt and especially CA.
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porn dudes?....lol...mello everybody has been predicting a bust for 2 years now. Are investors getting burned? Probably but people are closing on their units as we speak and a factor in our favor is land....we don't have anymore of it so Miami will continue to build just at a much slower pace. Prices will drop & stabilize just like they have in the past here. What has been missing in this boom is office space and we have projects breaking such as 1450 Brickell & MET 2. I'll see if I can dig up some pics Complex01.
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The "condo boom" blasted Miami into 3rd place behind New York and Chicago with buildings either built or under construction in the 400 feet tall and up range. It has made Miami a SUPERSTAR among world cities with the new skyline becoming its own adverstisement on primetime TV shows and national commercials.
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2007, 2:47 PM
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Right I understand, but is the boom sustainable, or what happens when this recession hits you like that fucking defensive lineman's knee hit Trent Green's head???

I mean Brickell look at the signs, a big recession is coming, that coupled with a hugely overbuilt real estate market that is plummeting could be a serious blow to South Florida.

No the boom isn't sustainable, that's why it's a boom. But given the choice of boom or not, most people down here would choose to boom and deal with the consequences. Sure some buildings will have problems, but what's that got to do with the average person?

With the weakening dollar, Miami is in a better position than others with ties to both South America and Europe. Our transit isn't great, but it gets the job done. Despite what you might have heard, Miami is doing just fine.
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Regardless of the market conditions, it would be nice to see some photos of the progress.
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2007, 5:43 PM
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Flickr from MarkMetzger2's photostream

Tamara Garcia photostream

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Not sure but I read somewhere can't remember..posting pics from FLickr is illegal please let me know and I won't post them again...
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This latest pic is great if we could see it brighter.
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2007, 5:48 AM
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Billionaire's plan city within a city

Posted on Sun, Nov. 04, 2007
Builder's plan for west of Biscayne: city within a city
BY MATTHEW HAGGMAN
Despite the condos and cranes already lining downtown Miami, some developers believe there's still gold in Miami's urban core that's been overlooked.

For several years, Boca Raton builder Art Falcone and business partner Marc Roberts have been quietly buying pieces of nine city blocks between I-395 and the central business district.

Now, with more than 20 acres bought or under contract, they are preparing to lay out detailed development plans and seek city approval for the first phase of a massive project: soaring office and hotel towers, condos, shops and plazas immediately west of Biscayne Boulevard.

The project, if successful, could bind together a downtown already revitalizing rapidly but in disconnected pockets, like the Carnival Center area and near the mouth of the Miami River. The patch where Falcone plans to build, known as Park West, remains a scruffy area that's seen little development. Many parcels are still parking lots.

''We want to make a city within the city,'' Falcone said.

It would also prolong a building boom that has included a raft of condominiums, some hotels and new offices.

Experts said they can't recall a bigger parcel of land assembled in downtown Miami, or such ambitious plans. ''It's the biggest project I've ever seen for downtown,'' said Matt Gorson, a real estate lawyer in Miami for more than 30 years who doesn't represent Falcone.

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Downtown Miami represents Falcone's next big bet. Since 2003, Falcone and Roberts bought or put under contract about 85 percent of the land reaching from North Miami Avenue to Northeast Second Avenue and Northeast 11th Street to Northeast Sixth Street.

County records show Falcone and Roberts have already closed on about $70 million worth of the property.


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Falcone said his team has flown to Europe, China, Dubai, Japan, India and across South America and the United States for ideas. Favorites include Tokyo's Roppongi Hills, Paris' Champs Elysées, Dallas' Victory Park and Rio de Janeiro.

The firm held a private charrette with six architectural firms that flew to Miami to survey the property and make presentations, ultimately hiring Boston-based Elkus Manfredi as master planner. Miami architect Bernard Zyscovich has also been retained as a local consultant.

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For office tenants, the team said they're looking abroad at firms with no local presence. For retail, they're avoiding big-box stores.

Talks are under way with hoteliers to serve the luxury and affordably priced travel market, they said.

Falcone said they intend to sell homes for no more than $500,000, less pricey than the luxury condos dominating new construction. He argues the lower-priced units he wants to build represents an underserved market, and because construction is years away, the housing market may have improved by then.

Falcone, who has submitted a bid to build a Miami Dade College building on Biscayne Boulevard, refused to elaborate on other aspects of the project, such as educational components or entertainment destinations.
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there is nothing this housing slump can do to stop Miami.!!
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Old Posted Nov 5, 2007, 10:42 PM
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Thanks for the pics! That Biscayne proposal looks crazy - in a very good way. Just when you thought we were through seeing new proposals for Miami...
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2007, 7:15 PM
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First of all i have to say the skyline pics awesome. Very nice progress.

Now this new proposal looks amazing. If this project really comes to light this would add a huge positive impact on the city. I really hope it goes through, hell i would live there in a heart beat. What exciting times for a great city. Cant wait to see it again...



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