Atlanta Project Thread IV

[Metrophile]

Cue the NIMBYs!

[BlueSangha]

Originally Posted by Metrophile

Cue the NIMBYs!

Right!? It will never happen.

[testarossa50]

Do you have any actual evidence of NIMBY opposition? I listened to an early NPU meeting about it and all sentiments were positive, and the NPU specifically said they want to be careful not to stand in opposition to the project, since they'll lose the ability to influence the design if they oppose the project.

The tricky thing about this site specifically is that it straddles the Va-Hi and Morningside/Lenox Park NPUs. Almost all of the site is in MLP, but the most impacted SFHs are in Va-Hi.

[alco89]

Originally Posted by testarossa50

Do you have any actual evidence of NIMBY opposition? I listened to an early NPU meeting about it and all sentiments were positive, and the NPU specifically said they want to be careful not to stand in opposition to the project, since they'll lose the ability to influence the design if they oppose the project.

Well that's good news. I was of the impression NIMBYs would try to kill this too, with this being around single family homes and in a traffic-choked area already.

I find it funny that Portman opposes BeltLine rail yet they want to build a project like this where transit would absolutely make it better for everyone involved. Add in the Ponce and Irwin developments to this too.

[Sojourner_Terminus]

Portman just dropped a ton of renders and info for their Amsterdam Walk proposal. Don't have the time to pull the images out and put them in here, but check out this article. At the bottom of the article is their slide deck.

https://roughdraftatlanta.com/2023/1...ackyard-views/

Forgot to add that it seems Portman may be reconsidering their opinion on beltline rail. Prominent in the renderings is the rail line and stop. Very nice plaza that connects the development to the Beltline and streetcar stop as well.

[cabasse]

interesting that portman is serving as the developer, but not the architect? (which is instead SOM? does gtjared have any beans to spill? lol)

Forgot to add that it seems Portman may be reconsidering their opinion on beltline rail. Prominent in the renderings is the rail line and stop. Very nice plaza that connects the development to the Beltline and streetcar stop as well.

well that's awesome to hear.

[Sojourner_Terminus]

Originally Posted by cabasse

interesting that portman is serving as the developer, but not the architect? (which is instead SOM? does gtjared have any beans to spill? lol)

It seems like Portman has pivoted hard towards being a developer. With their main focus being the beltline. They have this Amsterdam walk development, their Ponce development and the Irwin/Krog intersection developments. I don't think they were the architects on any of those.

[smArTaLlone]

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...portunity.html

Brand new office buildings along the BeltLine’s Eastside Trail are setting historic high rents for the city that could not shake $40 per square foot around a decade beforehand. The average gross asking rental rate of newly delivered and under-construction vacant space on the Eastside is within the $65-$70 range, according to data from Cushman & Wakefield.

The overall Eastside micro-market averages around $50 a foot, according to Cushman. In comparison, West Midtown averages $47.83 a foot, and Class A properties in the core of Midtown averages $45.20 per square foot. The total metro Atlanta market is $32.16.

660 Irwin

[jayden]

Wow, that's actually insane.

[ATLarchitect]

Originally Posted by Sojourner_Terminus

It seems like Portman has pivoted hard towards being a developer. With their main focus being the beltline. They have this Amsterdam walk development, their Ponce development and the Irwin/Krog intersection developments. I don't think they were the architects on any of those.

These are two completely different companies. Both originate from the same founder but they have separate leadership teams, investors, and missions:
Portman Holdings https://www.portmanholdings.com
Portman Architects https://portmanarchitects.com

I wouldn't read too much into Portman Holdings leaning on other talented design firms to help deliver their projects.

[Sojourner_Terminus]

Originally Posted by ATLarchitect

These are two completely different companies. Both originate from the same founder but they have separate leadership teams, investors, and missions:
Portman Holdings https://www.portmanholdings.com
Portman Architects https://portmanarchitects.com

I wouldn't read too much into Portman Holdings leaning on other talented design firms to help deliver their projects.

Interesting. Thanks for the clarification. Portman Holdings Beltline strategy is honestly brilliant. Its amazing how they've managed to snap up quite possibly the most well placed un/underdeveloped lots on the eastside trail. I just hope they move quickly on the Ponce and Irwin phase II projects. Seems like they should be starting soon if they intend to start at all this development cycle.

[smArTaLlone]

The University System of Georgia Board of Regents recently approved Georgia Tech’s proposal to construct a new student residential facility on campus to accommodate first-year enrollment growth over the next 10 years and enable the Institute to undertake improvements to its existing housing inventory.

“This will be Tech’s first new construction since 2005


The new facility will be located on the west side of campus along Northside Drive between Eighth and Ninth streets. At an estimated $117,000,000 cost to construct, the nearly 191,000-square-foot residence hall will contain approximately 850 beds, which will aid in the housing of students who are relocated due to renovations on existing residence halls.

[Martinman]

Originally Posted by Sojourner_Terminus

Portman just dropped a ton of renders and info for their Amsterdam Walk proposal. Don't have the time to pull the images out and put them in here, but check out this article. At the bottom of the article is their slide deck.

https://roughdraftatlanta.com/2023/1...ackyard-views/

I am LOVING this and the fact that SOM has started the development focused entirely on the ground level. And as a result, its a great development before the actual buildings are finalized. EVERY single development in Midtown and Downtown should do the same and be held to this standard.

[Sojourner_Terminus]

Originally Posted by Martinman

I am LOVING this and the fact that SOM has started the development focused entirely on the ground level. And as a result, its a great development before the actual buildings are finalized. EVERY single development in Midtown and Downtown should do the same and be held to this standard.

I agree, It looks fabulous. The ground level retail, massing of the buildings and the plaza that interfaces with the Beltline are all perfect. I really really hope that neighborhood pushback and/or economic factors don't kill or neuter this project.

[smArTaLlone]

[shivtim]

Haven't heard much on the Murphy Crossing Culdesac project since it was announced, but they applied for a planning permit for some townhomes:
1121 Allene Ave SW
Culdesac (Owner) proposes to build a nineteen-unit new, FOR SALE townhouse development at the corner of Allene Ave and Warner Street. It is bordered by an alley on the west side. The site was previously developed, but it currently vacant and no building remains other than a foundation slab. The site is zoned I-MIX. It is less than one acre. There is no on-site parking, but we are proposing to modify the curbline to allow for five street parking spaces. The townhouses will be in three buildings. The two buildings fronting Warner will be three story, with live-work units on the ground floor. The third building runs along the southern property line, and is two story (including the short end facing Allene). Each building is roughly 5,700 sf, for a total building area of 15,680.

[shivtim]

Building permit filed for 229 Auburn Ave NE. This is the "Sweet Auburn Grande" development.

LAND DISTURBANCE ACTIVITY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT CONSISTING OF 108 DWELLING UNITS AND APPROXIMATELY 11,500 SF OF COMMERCIAL SPACE IN 1 BUILDING

[Street Advocate]

Bring on that new housing for downtown

[testarossa50]

Oh my god, they are actually saving that brick building on the corner?

[bryantm3]

I am really not a fan of these block sized housing projects.