The Great Canadian Transit Thread - Page 348

Beedok · #**6941** Posted **Aug 25, 2015, 3:47 PM**

I hope they still have those moulded plastic seats and everything. The current stock are so adorable.

SkahHigh · #**6942** Posted **Aug 25, 2015, 3:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Beedok

I hope they still have those moulded plastic seats and everything. The current stock are so adorable.

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

Never change a winning formula

MalcolmTucker · #**6943** Posted **Aug 25, 2015, 3:58 PM**

Do the new ones still have wood brakes to keep from having that awful metallic brake smell?

Beedok · #**6944** Posted **Aug 25, 2015, 3:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh

Never change a winning formula

Yay. Still a fun design.

SkahHigh · #**6945** Posted **Aug 25, 2015, 4:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

Do the new ones still have wood brakes to keep from having that awful metallic brake smell?

Yeah, they didn't change that either.

vegeta_skyline · #**6946** Posted **Aug 25, 2015, 8:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

Do the new ones still have wood brakes to keep from having that awful metallic brake smell?

Wood brakes for a train(subway)? What is this, the 1800's?

What do you know, turns out they are for real.

GreaterMontréal · #**6947** Posted **Aug 25, 2015, 10:26 PM**

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Wood brakes for a train(subway)? What is this, the 1800's?

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They are one of a kind and they are made right here in the STM shops. They play a crucial role. And they’re made of wood soaked in peanut oil.
In Montréal, wooden brake shoes are used instead, as they generate less noise than steel shoes and less pollution than graphite ones.

http://www.mouvementcollectif.org/en/gra...vee-pour-les-nouvelles-voitures-de-metro

1overcosc · #**6948** Posted **Aug 26, 2015, 12:00 AM**

It's now official.

Two-way all day GO service during the weekday midday is coming to Brampton (from Mount Pleasant Station eastward) on September 5. For now, service will be hourly. It will presumably be ramped up to half hourly in the coming years and then 15 minutes once RER is complete.

Construction has also started on a second track on the Stouffville line to allow off-peak service to Markham as well.

Nice to see that the GO RER project is delivering tangible service improvements step by step as it progresses towards completion.

SkahHigh · #**6949** Posted **Aug 26, 2015, 12:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by 1overcosc

It's now official.

Two-way all day GO service during the weekday midday is coming to Brampton (from Mount Pleasant Station eastward) on September 5. For now, service will be hourly. It will presumably be ramped up to half hourly in the coming years and then 15 minutes once RER is complete.

Construction has also started on a second track on the Stouffville line to allow off-peak service to Markham as well.

Nice to see that the GO RER project is delivering tangible service improvements step by step as it progresses towards completion.

I'm curious to see how the ridership will improve with higher service frequency.

Innsertnamehere · #**6950** Posted **Aug 26, 2015, 3:47 AM**

Ridership increased by roughly 50% during off peak periods when GO introduced 30 minute service on the lakeshore lines a few years ago.

ssiguy · #**6951** Posted **Aug 26, 2015, 11:17 PM**

That is great news and after years of talk and on-again-off-again transit proposals and promises, Torontonians are actually seeing real improvements in their transit system and mobility options.

That said I am going to repeat what I have said often because I think it is of paramount importance..............the GTA must bring in fare integration if it is to become the true transit service it could be especially for people in Toronto itself where ridership is still very low.

WhipperSnapper · #**6952** Posted **Aug 27, 2015, 12:05 AM**

Better yet, cut prices. It's too damn expensive on short runs. 4 years ago, it was $3.25 to go Danforth to Union. Now it's over $5. Cheaper and more convenient to drive and park downtown. (Don't live within walking distance of Danforth) A slight discount from fare integration won't make little difference. Sounds good but, it's not the biggest problem.

MalcolmTucker · #**6953** Posted **Aug 27, 2015, 12:23 AM**

I wonder about GO fare integration, especially for peak hour outbound trips. The bottleneck is Union, and someone paying substantially less displacing someone riding further is a problem. I don't think it can happen until there is a nice surge of capacity at peak.

1overcosc · #**6954** Posted **Aug 27, 2015, 1:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Better yet, cut prices. It's too damn expensive on short runs. 4 years ago, it was $3.25 to go Danforth to Union. Now it's over $5. Cheaper and more convenient to drive and park downtown. (Don't live within walking distance of Danforth) A slight discount from fare integration won't make little difference. Sounds good but, it's not the biggest problem.

Except from Danforth you can take the TTC subway into town for $2.80.

ssiguy · #**6955** Posted **Aug 27, 2015, 7:31 AM**

For Vancouverites out there..............to let you know the prices Torontonians pay, the price of your TTC pass/ticket is not so much as deducted a nickel off your GO fare or vise-versa.

The WCE is deducted penny for penny off your transit far and vice versa. This is why so few Torontonians use the system, it's too damn expensive. More people take GO in Mississauga than they do in all of the city of Toronto despite Toronto have quadruple the number of people and 7 rail lines to choose from as opposed to Mississauga's 3 and triple the track.

Innsertnamehere · #**6956** Posted **Aug 27, 2015, 4:59 PM**

Because the WCE is so well used...

Most people in Toronto take the TTC because it's got much better frequencies. Why take a train that only operates 4 times in the morning and 4 times at night, that you have to drive to and park at, if you can hop on a bus that goes right by your house every 10 minutes all day long that gets you downtown in roughly the same time.

A months worth of commuting on GO in Toronto isn't horribly more than a regular TTC fare, it's about 30% more than a metropass.

caltrane74 · #**6957** Posted **Aug 27, 2015, 6:12 PM**

New Streetcars arriving slow as molasses

http://i.imgur.com/BcCvxwJ.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/3ii100/streetcar_4410_has_arrived/

4410 has arrived!!

1overcosc · #**6958** Posted **Aug 27, 2015, 6:19 PM**

^ Any updates on how the City council is dealing with this delay in streetcar arrivals? Last I heard they were seriously considering sanctions and/or legal action against Bombardier.

caltrane74 · #**6959** Posted **Aug 27, 2015, 6:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by 1overcosc

^ Any updates on how the City council is dealing with this delay in streetcar arrivals? Last I heard they were seriously considering sanctions and/or legal action against Bombardier.

I think they will get deliveries to once a week by September or October...

SFUVancouver · #**6960** Posted **Aug 27, 2015, 9:45 PM**

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Because the WCE is so well used...

Well about that, Translink fills every train they put in service, with most runs being standing room only. The limiting factor is track access agreements with the CPR, which I understand is refusing to allow more West Coast Express trains during peak commuting periods. The relatively recent service increase of a couple extra runs each day was apparently the result of years of negotiations and rumour has it that Translink got absolutely hosed on the deal but still needed to get it done to alleviate chronic over-crowding.

So yes, by comparison to GO, the West Coast Express has paltry ridership. But it's a revenue-positive service, fully integrated with our regional transit fare structure, it doesn't receive any provincial subsidy (let alone investment), and it is packed to the rafters daily. It attracts choice transit riders who would likely otherwise have driven downtown, has helped spur higher-density suburban development, and it delivers riders to a downtown CBD station with seamless connectivity to SkyTrain and SeaBus services.