PHILADELPHIA | Lowrise/General Developments Thread

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Tuesday, 10/25. 2nd & New-

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Tuesday, 10/25. Girard & Leopard-

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Tuesday, 10/25. 2nd & Wildey in N Libs-

[Philly Fan]

Originally Posted by hammersklavier

Infinitive splitting, like the Oxford comma, is one of those arcane and highly debatable "rules" that you find large camps of the writing community on either side of.

What about ending a sentence with a preposition?

[Knight Hospitaller]

Originally Posted by Philly Fan

What about ending a sentence with a preposition?

Something up with which none of us should put.

[PHL10]

I bet Wawa management is kicking themselves for moving out of the 20th and Locust corner several years back. You can’t beat being a half block off Rittenhouse Square. I heard somewhere that they actually owned that space which is now occupied by 7-11.

[Philly-Drew]

Originally Posted by Philly Fan

What about ending a sentence with a preposition?

Hey! Leave Yoda out of this!

Regarding Wawa, which I think is awesome, wasn't it a number of years back they were contemplating moving out of the city? I can't remember the details, but it had something to do with getting out of urban areas? I really can't remember now.

Either way, I'm glad they're here. I wonder what affect a Wawa would have in a neighborhood like Northern Liberties, where we have multiple mom and pop stores, that I like even more than Wawa.

[hammersklavier]

Originally Posted by Philly Fan

What about ending a sentence with a preposition?

Did you know every Germanic language has a system whereby sentences can end with prepositions? It's true.

Something nonnative learners have the most trouble with is our phrasal verbs, verbs like "bear with" or "put up". They're two-word (sometimes even three-word e.g. "get off of") phrases that are at the same time single verb stems. And to make things even more complicated, some of these verbs will split up (e.g. "see them off") while others won't ("bear with it"). Oh, and to make things even more annoying for our ESL friends, there's no clear rhyme or reason for which phrasal verbs are separable (able to split up), and some phrasal verbs even have different meanings depending on whether or not they're separated (contrast "see off the vista" versus "see the boat off").

Every Germanic language has this mechanism, although few are quite as arbitrary as English. Usually only certain lexemes are separable (Gmn. aufkommen vs. bekommen, for example, leads to ich komme auf for the separable verb but ich bekomme for the inseparable one), but the ones that are, are always separable.

Ain't language fun?

[Redddog]

Originally Posted by hammersklavier

You'd be surprised.

Infinitive splitting, like the Oxford comma, is one of those arcane and highly debatable "rules" that you find large camps of the writing community on either side of. Personally, my take on it is that banning infinitive splitting is an attempt to Latinize the language -- unlike in French or Spanish (or even German), we have two-word infinitives, and using a word as an infinitive infix adds more stress to it. Hence "to boldly go" adds more stress on the boldness of the action than "to go boldly". You will also note that we only use adverbs in this infix position -- this is because we are quite literally modifying the verb when we do so.

...is that arcane enough for you?

Haha. Was that a scene from "Good Will Hunting?"

[Jayfar]

Originally Posted by PHL10

I bet Wawa management is kicking themselves for moving out of the 20th and Locust corner several years back. You can’t beat being a half block off Rittenhouse Square. I heard somewhere that they actually owned that space which is now occupied by 7-11.

Yes, they did actually own the space at the time; I saw it listed then on the real estate for sale section of the Wawa website. The space consists of 2 commercial condo units in the Dorchester. They subsequently sold the units to Allan Domb; I don't know whether 7-11 leased or purchased the property.

[br323206]

Originally Posted by 1487

Why are they putting two so close????

The same reason Starbucks, Dunkins, and 7-11s are so close together. People won't walk out of their way, even a block or two, for a convenience store.

It's also the same reason that Wawas try to locate in the suburbs in places where people can make a right turn into their lot in the mornings. Peoples will just keep driving if they have to put in the extra time and effort to turn left.

[summersm343]

Kenney drinks to Yards new NoLibs HQ, beermaker to create 70 jobs

With a cold pint of beer in hand, Mayor Jim Kenney and Yards Brewing Founder Tom Kehoe toasted the Philadelphia's brewery's new headquarters in the city's Northern Liberties neighborhood.

Calling the beermaker's move into 70,000 square feet at the former Destination Maternity facility at 456 N. 5th Street a great addition to the "already vibrant and thriving district," Kenney commended Yards for its growth from its start in a Manayunk garage in 1994 to today.

The new headquarters' future private event space will offer visitors a chance to "experience all aspects of brewing, packaging and production while enjoying a Yards beer," the company said. The facility is expected to open in late 2017.

The new, larger location for Yards will allow the beermaker to increase its production and add canned beers to its regular offerings.

A canning line will be added to the Northern Liberties property, where the Philadelphia company will initially have a brewing capacity of 100,000 barrels. Additional fermenting space will eventually double that.

Yards said the new headquarters will create 70 jobs within three years of moving.

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/...-yards-brew-beer-northern-liberties.html

[EastSideHBG]

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One of my favorite local breweries, this is exciting stuff!

[hammersklavier]

Originally Posted by summersm343

Kenney drinks to Yards new NoLibs HQ, beermaker to create 70 jobs





http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/...-yards-brew-beer-northern-liberties.html

So how does that square with this?

Originally Posted by summersm343

^^Is this what their new plan is?





I think if they build out the small parking lot facing 5th Street with more office/industrial space, retail, and/or green space, and put in a street in between the building and the parking lot to the south of the property (for the parking lot to eventually be developed in the future), then I think they have a winning design here.

http://kirkfromm.com/featured-architectural-illustrations

[summersm343]

Originally Posted by hammersklavier

So how does that square with this?

I was actually just thinking about this haha.

I'm hoping the rendering shows either the Southeast or Southwest corner of the building... and not one of the corners facing Spring Garden where they would partially demolish and build the residential buildings.

I honestly don't even know if those renderings are still the plan or not, as I found them online.

[jsbrook]

Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller

Something up with which none of us should put.

Ok, Churchill. The mythical rule about preposition stranding being a grammatical fault is indeed nonsense, and it's not something you should put up with. But "put up with" is an idiom. No, on'e going to tell you to break those up.

Good news on Yards brewery!

[Philly Fan]

Originally Posted by jsbrook

Ok, Churchill. The mythical rule about preposition stranding being a grammatical fault is indeed nonsense, and it's not something you should put up with. But "put up with" is an idiom. No, on'e going to tell you to break those up.

What is that based on? Is this something you're familiar with?

[How long do you think we can keep this up? ]

[Knight Hospitaller]

Originally Posted by Philly Fan

What is that based on? Is this something you're familiar with?

[How long do you think we can keep this up? ]

Don't feed the trolls!

[hammersklavier]

Originally Posted by Philly Fan

What is that based on? Is this something you're familiar with?

[How long do you think we can keep this up? ]

How many phrasal verbs can we clutter the English language with?

[jjv007]

This prepositional digression is something with which we must not put up.