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Old Posted Feb 19, 2021, 12:43 AM
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It'd be cool if the exterior of the blow through floor had this pattern and it was lined with lights (that could change color like JHC)
If there was a way to avoid residents being bothered by the diffuse emission it might make sense...
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It'd be cool if the exterior of the blow through floor had this pattern and it was lined with lights (that could change color like JHC)
I have been thinking exactly that as well. It's such a distinctive motif that could be used more extensively (blow through + louvers) that would better integrate the those and make them look less out-of-place/like an afterthought or necessary evil. Not so sure about the lighting...
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I have some vague recollection that the city does not allow illumination of blow through floors for whatever reason. Otherwise I think that's a great idea.

Edit: Yes, I remembered correctly:

https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/7/17...-design-update

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These sorts of wind breaks are not uncommon on very tall and very slender skyscrapers. New York’s 432 Park Avenue utilizes five such gaps across its 1,396-foot elevation. With the Manhattan supertall, however, these spaces were always part of the plan so they double as mechanical floors and feature attractive nighttime lighting.

This will not be the case with Vista’s blow-through floor. According to CAB, by law the space cannot be illuminated. The result is likely to appear as a dark horizontal band across the Studio Gang/bKL-designed building’s uppermost extremity.
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I have some vague recollection that the city does not allow illumination of blow through floors for whatever reason. Otherwise I think that's a great idea.

Edit: Yes, I remembered correctly:

https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/7/17...-design-update
Why? Who cares if there are lights on it or not???
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Why? Who cares if there are lights on it or not???
i care, i think it would be a nice touch to light up the blow-through permanently!
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i care, i think it would be a nice touch to light up the blow-through permanently!
Not only would it be a nice touch, but an obvious touch. I mean aren't these people supposed to be the creative types. No one should have to suggest lighting the blow-through (with LED lights that change colors), it's begging for it.
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Not only would it be a nice touch, but an obvious touch. I mean aren't these people supposed to be the creative types. No one should have to suggest lighting the blow-through (with LED lights that change colors), it's begging for it.
How many times do we have to say it's ILLEGAL and would require a change in ordinance before y'all give it a rest?
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Why? Who cares if there are lights on it or not???
...it would be a nice design aesthetic? Although from your ever so eloquent response, it appears you don't much care for that.
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The bridging issue has been a big problem. I have never lived in a building that has the issue, so I don't know really what the energy cost is to the end user. I am sure there are plenty of studies on it. On a project I worked on a little while back, we used products from these guys https://www.schoeck.com/en/isokorb and there is a lot of good literature on their site about the problems and how their products help remedy it. Seemed easy enough to install - just cost a decent amount and took a little bit to get. I at least appreciate that they're trying.
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. I have never lived in a building that has the issue, so I don't know really what the energy cost is to the end user.
From my years living in Marina City, it's not much.

My 500 SF studio unit cost about $25 worth of electricity (MC wasn't piped for gas) to heat in a typical winter month.

Granted, that was a decade ago now, but still, hardly an exorbitant heating expense, despite the evil horror of "THERMAL BRIDGING".
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From my years living in Marina City, it's not much.

My 500 SF studio unit cost about $25 worth of electricity (MC wasn't piped for gas) to heat in a typical winter month.

Granted, that was a decade ago now, but still, hardly an exorbitant heating expense, despite the evil horror of "THERMAL BRIDGING".
Yeah people act as if this is some kind of crippling issue. It is not and developers don't care as someone else mentioned. The architects don't get to choose whether the building has thermal breaks nor do they get to choose whether it has balconies.

Not sure why there are so many Gang haters out there nitpicking her work. It almost feels like a double standard that male architects designing on this level are not judged by. Why isn't every building with balconies and no breaks lambasted for the same reasons? I've never heard it leveled as design criticism against any other radiator balcony buildings in Chicago granted most of those designs suck and are nowhere near the quality of Aqua. Maybe you all should look at Low-end-burgs previous works and realize Aqua represents a massive aesthetic improvement upon an otherwise uninspiring genre of building program that proliferates not only Chicago, but many modern cities.
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