^ I totally hear you, but so far that is all speculation or anecdotal, and most certainly not showing up in any trends, meaning, the 50% increase in crime year over year from 2014 to 2015 did nothing to measurably decrease or prevent development. In fact we saw an increase.
But what these - at this point purely speculative - discussions do have an effect on is devolving the thread and starting arguments, which causes me to have to come in and clean up the thread and (sometimes) suspend forumers. In an effort to both allow the conversation to continue, and mitigate the suspension and forumers and the time I have to spend cleaning up the thread, I'm putting my foot down and having these discussions moved to the City Discussions sub-forum, where these kinds of discussions are already happening. It's not an LA thread thing, it's a forum-wide thing.
If there is an article that links the rise in crime specifically in downtown Los Angeles to a downturn in development, or a downturn in sales or rentals, that would be wholly appropriate to put here. But rampant speculation or discussion about how it might affect development in the future can, should, and will happen in City Discussions, where it happens for all other cities.
Hopefully this makes sense. Frankly I don't believe that this stipulation is impossible to achieve: you are all reasonably bright people who can make the delineation between development news and speculation on crime.
Just as a heads up, I am going to delete any further discussion on this topic in this thread, and or move it to another thread that I'll create when I have some free time for that discussion to continue.
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