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Old Posted Dec 15, 2015, 2:03 AM
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* = Confirmed

Team A: Claridge Homes
-Claridge Homes *
-First Capital Realty
-Main and Main Developments
-Urban Strategies *

Team B: Devcore Group
-Devcore Group*
-Broccolini*
-Pomerleau Construction*
-Moriyama & Teshima*
-BBB Architects*
-Provencher-Roy*

Team C: Focus Equities
-Focus Equities*
-Jan Gehl*
-DIALOG*
-International organization

Team D: Rendez Vous LeBreton Group
-Senators Sports & Entertainment *
-Trinity Development Group
-Windmill Developments*
-Rossetti*
I was curious which companies were part of each bid and I knew it was mentioned here before so I am quoting it back here for those who may also be curious and have forgotten. Thanks WaterlooWarrior for posting these updates and Rocketphish for always posting the news articles!

I would say the Sens have a pretty good shot compared to the other three teams. I am excited to see the actual proposals in 6 weeks time.
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2015, 4:49 AM
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I would say the Sens have a pretty good shot compared to the other three teams. I am excited to see the actual proposals in 6 weeks time.
I, too, look forward to seeing all the proposals for nationally-significant shrubs for all Canadians.
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Ottawa may be the capital city but the reality is it was after this city got awarded an NHL hockey team that it really landed on the international stage.
Seriously?!? Hockey ain't THAT important.
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2015, 2:38 PM
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Seriously?!? Hockey ain't THAT important.
I trust that you are kidding.

I actually found the list of bidders pretty impressive, particluarly given that they include consultants like Jan Gehl and Urban Strategies. Bodes well for a healthy competition.

My hope is that the NCC ultimately opts to accept a combination of bids - Lebreton clearly has the room for it, and I expect that the integration of multiple bids is their best bet for creating an attraction that makes for a vibrant area year round.
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I did have to laugh a little when I read in the article that "you have to think if you made a trip to Hollywood before there was a hockey team you'd have hard time finding anybody outside of maybe Rich Little and Paul Anka, who knew exactly where Ottawa was located."

Never mind this "before there was a hockey team" business. If you made a trip to Hollywood TODAY, you likely wouldn't find anyone outside of Rich Little and Paul Anka who knew exactly where Ottawa was located.
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I did have to laugh a little when I read in the article that "you have to think if you made a trip to Hollywood before there was a hockey team you'd have hard time finding anybody outside of maybe Rich Little and Paul Anka, who knew exactly where Ottawa was located."

Never mind this "before there was a hockey team" business. If you made a trip to Hollywood TODAY, you likely wouldn't find anyone outside of Rich Little and Paul Anka who knew exactly where Ottawa was located.
Never mind Ottawa, they couldn't find Canada on a map and think Toronto is an american city.
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Seriously?!? Hockey ain't THAT important.
The Sens mean a lot more to this city than people realize. The direct economic spin-offs are huge.
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2015, 5:57 PM
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I was curious which companies were part of each bid and I knew it was mentioned here before so I am quoting it back here for those who may also be curious and have forgotten. Thanks WaterlooWarrior for posting these updates and Rocketphish for always posting the news articles!

I would say the Sens have a pretty good shot compared to the other three teams. I am excited to see the actual proposals in 6 weeks time.
Appears we only have two bids now:

http://www.ncc-ccn.gc.ca/planning/ma...lebreton-flats

•DCDLS Group (formerly Devcore Group)
•Rendez Vous LeBreton Group
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2015, 6:08 PM
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Appears we only have two bids now:

http://www.ncc-ccn.gc.ca/planning/ma...lebreton-flats

•DCDLS Group (formerly Devcore Group)
•Rendez Vous LeBreton Group
Redevelopment of LeBreton Flats

The National Capital Commission (NCC) has received detailed proposals from two proponents for the redevelopment of LeBreton Flats, one of the largest and most significant development sites in the core of Canada’s Capital. In alphabetical order, they are as follows:
  • DCDLS Group (formerly Devcore Group)
  • Rendez Vous LeBreton Group

The other pre-qualified proponents, Focus Equities and Claridge Homes did not submit proposals.

The NCC will now undertake a review of the submissions to determine if they meet mandatory requirements of the RFP. The proposals that meet the mandatory requirements will be presented at a public consultation on January 26 and 27, 2016, at the Canadian War Museum.

They are competing to develop a world-class destination for all Capital visitors and residents. The subject site for redevelopment is 9.3 hectares in the heart of the Capital, with option lands consisting of an additional 12.3 hectares.

The NCC expects to announce the successful proponent in early 2017.


Timeline for the redevelopment of LeBreton Flats
  • January 2016: Subject Matter Expert review
  • January 26-27, 2016: public exhibition
  • January 26 to February 8: online consultation
  • February 2016: Evaluation Committee review
  • March 2016: Evaluation Committee recommendation to the NCC Board of Directors
  • Summer/Fall 2016: Negotiations with the preferred proponent
  • Fall 2016: Federal approval process
  • Early 2017: Announcement of the successful proposal
  • 2017: Municipal process

Location

The location is home to the Canadian War Museum, a multi-residential development, festival grounds, multi-use pathways, the Mill Street Brew Pub, the forthcoming National Holocaust Monument and other important sites of interest. The site is immediately adjacent to the soon-to-be completed Ottawa Light Rail Transit system.


http://www.ncc-ccn.gc.ca/planning/ma...lebreton-flats

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Old Posted Dec 15, 2015, 6:09 PM
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Three cheers for Claridge dropping out!!
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2015, 7:00 PM
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Down to two proposals--that should make things easier. Seeing as there are actually two pieces of land for potential development, we might get both proposals done. One first and one a little later.
Things are looking better for getting a downtown arena sometime in the future.
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Not surprising to see focus equities went nowhere, I guess they figured out international organizations already have headquarters. Claridge is a little surprising - I wonder if they have partnered with one of the other teams.
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Seriously?!? Hockey ain't THAT important.
You'd be surprised. I travel for work in the US multiple times a year and find that Americans more and more are knowing Ottawa, but not always realizing its the capital. When the Sens were in the cup, the next year, I noticed a huge uptick in recognition and had multiple people reference the Sens when I said Ottawa.

There are areas that remain oblivious unfortunately-last year I told a collegue from Indianapolis I was from Ottawa and she replied "Atawawa, where is that?"
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2015, 7:41 PM
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It doesn't look like having only two proponents will have any effect on scheduling. The NCC mentioned that they are sticking to the end-of-January deadline to reveal the approved proposal(s): https://twitter.com/NCC_CCN/status/676827255801294850

For the Rendez-Vous proposal, I'm sort of hoping it takes cues from Rossetti's other project proposal in Bergamo, Italy: the Atalanta Sport Park. I think a variation of that project (with the addition of some taller buildings, for example) could fit in pretty well along the SJAM parkway:

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ROSSETTI created a massive green island oasis where the stadium, training + commercial facilities are recessed into the earth. Parking + operations elements are located underground, yet are still connected. The entire master planned development is surrounded by meadowland + integrates with the natural landscape.







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Old Posted Dec 15, 2015, 7:46 PM
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For the Rendez-Vous proposal, I'm sort of hoping it takes cues from Rossetti's other project proposal in Bergamo, Italy
I have no idea what I am looking at there.
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2015, 7:55 PM
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You'd be surprised. I travel for work in the US multiple times a year and find that Americans more and more are knowing Ottawa, but not always realizing its the capital. When the Sens were in the cup, the next year, I noticed a huge uptick in recognition and had multiple people reference the Sens when I said Ottawa.

There are areas that remain oblivious unfortunately-last year I told a collegue from Indianapolis I was from Ottawa and she replied "Atawawa, where is that?"
Forget the States, I was in Korea recently and even people there knew about Ottawa(not sure if the Sens had anything to do with that though )

We also got some unfortunate recognition through two tragic events that happened here which made international news(the OC Transpo-Via crash and the Parliament attack).

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I have no idea what I am looking at there.
You and me both
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2015, 7:59 PM
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I'd hate to see one developer get both parcels.

IMO, there's a greater chance of ending up with an interesting and varied development if we have more parties involved.
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Looks like crop circles to me...
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Citizen reporting both proposals will have an arena
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...-redevelopment
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2015, 9:49 PM
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Senators are already affiliated with the Rendez-Vous group. Who is going to play in DCDLS Group's Arena?

I'm worried we're getting close to a sole source, which led to the Claridge mediocrity in the first phase of redevelopment (and also I think contributed to the city overpaying for Lansdowne).
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