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Originally Posted by SpawnOfVulcan
Well, now all I need is a homophobic comment and I'll have bingo!
Are you, or were you, ever an employee of the University when the DEI existed? Because... I was, and what you're claiming holds less water than Lake Oroville, CA. The race of the students I taught had nothing to do with their ability to do, or complete, their work correctly. I had some students that I could tell were extraordinarily intelligent, they just lacked the skill set necessary to get their work done in a timely fashion (the most frustrating of situations I've ever been in).
Something I'm quite confident about is that if you threw a dataset with students' race and scores into SPSS, you'd never find a statistically significant correlation between the two factors.
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You are a dishonest debater. I never once said that no African Americans were great students. I am talking averages. I am not even arguing why I think they do far worse on average. I am not calling for segregation and you know it. I am calling for a return to meritocracy! Given that Black students are currently about 12 per cent of the undergrad population, Whites might in fact make up the majority of lower tier students. I want them denied permission to UA as well. I want them to at least have to attend Shelton State or some other directional school so they can prove themselves before enrolling at UA.
Nick Saban does not care about race and neither should UA admissions. And did you just claim there is no correlation between race and test scores? Are you serious?
Take a look at this if you have the courage to see how wrong you are:
https://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html This is from the Journal of Black Higher Education, not The David Duke Report. Here is a direct quote from the link:
"Despite the small overall improvement of black SAT scores over the past 17 years,
the gap between black and white scores has actually increased. In 1988 the average combined score for whites of 1036 was 189 points higher than the average score for blacks. In 2005 the gap between the average white score and the average black score had grown to 204 points.
Not only are African-American scores on the SAT far below the scores of whites and Asian Americans, but they also trail the scores of every other major ethnic group in the United States including students of Puerto Rican and Mexican backgrounds. In fact, American Indian and Alaska Native students on average score more than 104 points higher than the average score of black students. On average, Asian American students score 227 points, or 19 percent higher, higher than African Americans."
"...There is a major flaw in the thesis that income differences explain the racial gap. Consider these three observable facts from The College Board's 2005 data on the SAT:
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Whites from families with incomes of less than $10,000 had a mean SAT score of 993. This is 129 points higher than the national mean for all blacks.
• Whites from families with incomes below $10,000 had a mean SAT test score that was 61 points higher than blacks whose families had incomes of between $80,000 and $100,000.
• Blacks from families with incomes of more than $100,000 had a mean SAT score that was 85 points below the mean score for whites from all income levels, 139 points below the mean score of whites from families at the same income level, and 10 points below the average score of white students from families whose income was less than $10,000."
UA can not claim to be about academic excellence if it is too afraid to raise standards cause it might make its percentage of Black students equal to that of Auburn.
If you want to engage in honest debate to help improve our alma mater, fine, but if you continue to engage in dishonesty, forget about it. I want the best for UA. UA DEI is a bloated, expensive, and unnecessary albatross around its neck. Even if you care about diversity more than excellence, you should know that UA already had one of the nation's largest enrollments of Blacks and had one of the highest percentages of Black faculty. UA does not need the Neo-Marxist indoctrination center that is UA DEI.
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