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baseball1992 · #**661** Posted **Jun 11, 2014, 11:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Eveningsong

The state should be paying for transit improvements but our muscle car loving governor has slashed funds for any of that stuff. I just hope SL Green doesn't build a cheap looking tower because of these expensive transit "improvements" draining their resources.

Yet everyone is pulling for PA to spend a billion+ on 3WTC, when it could instead go to transit.

Perklol · #**662** Posted **Jun 12, 2014, 12:21 AM**

^Which is what they should be doing. I want the building to be finished but let's be real, its not the job of the PA. Silverstein should get a loan from a bank instead.

Crawford · #**663** Posted **Jun 12, 2014, 1:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by baseball1992

Yet everyone is pulling for PA to spend a billion+ on 3WTC, when it could instead go to transit.

No one is even asking the PA for one penny for 3 WTC. They're asking for a loan guarantee, which cuts borrowing costs.

And the PA cannot just spend random money on transit.

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Originally Posted by Eveningsong

^Which is what they should be doing. I want the building to be finished but let's be real, its not the job of the PA. Silverstein should get a loan from a bank instead.

That's exactly what Silverstein is doing.

And the PA owns the WTC. Of course it's part of their mission.

NYguy · #**664** Posted **Jun 12, 2014, 1:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by TechTalkGuy

The developer is being asked to pay for wider subway platforms?
Isn't that the responsibility of the MTA?

Perhaps they could pay a percentage of the cost?

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Originally Posted by Eveningsong

The state should be paying for transit improvements but because our muscle car loving governor has slashed funds from the MTA, none of that will happen anytime soon. I just hope SL Green doesn't end up building a cheap looking tower because of borrowing money for these expensive transit "improvements".

Well, consider that the City already has the option of bunus development rights for transit improvements (special permit). One of the things lost in Vornado's decision not to move forward with 15 Penn Plaza was the transit upgrades to and around Penn Station, including the reopening of the walkway connecting Penn Station with the PATH and 6th Ave lines. Those are transit improvements Vornado was making in exchange for nearly half a million square ft of additional development rights.

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Originally Posted by baseball1992

Yet everyone is pulling for PA to spend a billion+ on 3WTC, when it could instead go to transit.

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Originally Posted by Crawford

No one is even asking the PA for one penny for 3 WTC. They're asking for a loan guarantee, which cuts borrowing costs.
And the PA cannot just spend random money on transit.

Of course, if it were simply about cost vs. service improvement, the billions the PA spent on the new PATH hub would be questioned.

But yeah, it's not unusual for developers to provide additional improvements in exchange for development rights.

TechTalkGuy · #**665** Posted **Jun 15, 2014, 1:15 PM**

The burden of cost for the development rights sounds a bit too political here folks!

Logic dictates that if you develop a large complex or tall tower (better yet, a mixed-use development), you are going to attract more people, which would provide a tax-revenue for the city.

I'd say to simply unshackle the developer of the burden of those "transit improvement" costs, which would be better used for this tower!

rlw777 · #**666** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 2:38 PM**

from newyorkyimby today... I think we need to change the thread title

New Details: One Vanderbilt Vies for Title of Midtown’s Tallest

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Per illustrations, One Vanderbilt’s rooftop will measure 1,350 feet, while its ultimate pinnacle looks to stand approximately 1,450′ above 42nd Street; the latter number would place the building as the second tallest structure in New York City, behind One World Trade Center. Pending adjustments, an additional foot would put the skyscraper ahead of Chicago’s Willis Tower, making it the second-tallest building in the Western Hemisphere.

Perklol · #**667** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 2:39 PM**

Michael12374 · #**668** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 3:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by rlw777

from newyorkyimby today... I think we need to change the thread title

New Details: One Vanderbilt Vies for Title of Midtown’s Tallest

HELL YES!

Its hopped all the way from the 6th tallest to the 2nd tallest building in NYC. Its about time a good illustrator re-does one vanderbilt

rlw777 · #**669** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 3:07 PM**

I probably should have posted this before but here is the link to the newyorkyimby article mentioned above http://www.yimbynews.com/2014/06/new...anderbilt.html

tyleraf · #**670** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 3:38 PM**

Nice. Another jump in height. The buildings keep getting taller!

Onn · #**671** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 4:31 PM**

If it is a height jump it makes sense! As others have noted, the top looked a little scrunched before. If they increase the overall height of the building (or the top) it would smooth the wrinkle out. Great news, that would be the second tallest in the city!

New diagram shot!

http://www.yimbynews.com/2014/06/new...anderbilt.html

iamtheSTIG:

Submariner · #**672** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 4:32 PM**

http://www.yimbynews.com/wp-content/...lt-Massing.jpg

That is actually a decently proportioned tower if you ask me...

Let's get a diagram of this STAT!

King DenCity · #**673** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 5:01 PM**

YES YES YES!!! This brightens up my day since i have gotten some bad news

It will certainly dominate the view from queens!

chris08876 · #**674** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 5:36 PM**

Thats great, 2nd tallest. Seems to get a slight height increase every time we check. Although I wonder if Nordstrom will be taller.

Hudson11 · #**675** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 5:40 PM**

It would be great to have an office building remain the king of Midtown. I wonder if they're vying for second tallest in the US and Western Hemisphere?

Onn · #**676** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 6:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

Thats great, 2nd tallest. Seems to get a slight height increase every time we check. Although I wonder if Nordstrom will be taller.

It's certainly possible that Nordstorm could be taller. We just don't have enough information on that yet. And its also possible that 1 Vanderbilt's spire isn't 100 feet, but 50-75 feet instead (since we don't have an official number). Either way it looks like 1 Vanderbilt will definitely be above 1,400 feet, at least.

chris08876 · #**677** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 6:15 PM**

It may. The developer tends to think big. Although lets not forget the Hudson Spire which I'm hoping dethrones WTC1. But, for now, anytime we get news of something over 1,400', nothing to be picky about.

baseball1992 · #**678** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 6:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Onn

It's certainly possible that Nordstorm could be taller. We just don't have enough information on that yet. And its also possible that 1 Vanderbilt's spire isn't 100 feet, but 50-75 feet instead (since we don't have an official number). Either way it looks like 1 Vanderbilt will definitely be above 1,400 feet, at least.

The article says 1450 to the top.

Onn · #**679** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 6:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by baseball1992

The article says 1450 to the top.

That's not an official number though, he's just estimating. "Approximately"

Skyguy_7 · #**680** Posted **Jun 17, 2014, 6:30 PM**

Proportionately, this revision looks far, far better. Something to really be excited about now.