ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[bigstick]

These are amazing developments on the beltline, and only going to be more, probably too much, imo.

[Libertarian]

Over-development in the NE segment, absolutely nothing happening elsewhere. Another beef: some construction is substandard quality.

[NYbyWAYofGA]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

Over-development in the NE segment, absolutely nothing happening elsewhere. Another beef: some construction is substandard quality.

I'm in total agreement here.

[echinatl]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

Over-development in the NE segment, absolutely nothing happening elsewhere. Another beef: some construction is substandard quality.

Gotta start somewhere. I volunteered on the Beltline twice, and ran on it a few times and had the opposite thoughts - I came away very impressed.

[micropundit]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

Over-development in the NE segment, absolutely nothing happening elsewhere. Another beef: some construction is substandard quality.

Not accurate: walked the newest SW portion last Sunday and there has been substantial progress there. While the majority of the ancillary development is along the Eastside portion, the Beltline itself is progressing physically into the South and Southeast corridors.

[ChrisInmanPark]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

Over-development in the NE segment, absolutely nothing happening elsewhere. Another beef: some construction is substandard quality.

At the latest Beltline meeting last week they said the Eastide trail construction on the extension through Reynoldstown to Glenwood Park would begin within 12 month. Just wait till you see the development that will begin in this area as well! I encourage you all to go to these meetings when they are in your area. Check the Beltline website for locations on these dates.

http://beltline.org/events/

• Westside Study Group: Monday, March 25
• Southwest Study Group: Thursday, March 28
• Northside Study Group: Monday, April 1
• Southeast Study Group: Monday, April 8

[SteveD]

Originally Posted by ChrisInmanPark

At the latest Beltline meeting last week they said the Eastide trail construction on the extension through Reynoldstown to Glenwood Park would begin within 12 month. Just wait till you see the development that will begin in this area as well! I encourage you all to go to these meetings when they are in your area. Check the Beltline website for locations on these dates.

http://beltline.org/events/

• Westside Study Group: Monday, March 25
• Southwest Study Group: Thursday, March 28
• Northside Study Group: Monday, April 1
• Southeast Study Group: Monday, April 8

All the way to Glenwood Park Chris? Wylie St and Bill Kennedy Way Beltline improvements starting within 12 months?

[ATLaffinity]

Originally Posted by echinatl

Gotta start somewhere. I volunteered on the Beltline twice, and ran on it a few times and had the opposite thoughts - I came away very impressed.

Agreed. IMHO, it's cutting through barriers that separate neighborhoods.

Not sure you can force builders to build townhouses in depressed areas.

[ChrisInmanPark]

Originally Posted by SteveD

All the way to Glenwood Park Chris? Wylie St and Bill Kennedy Way Beltline improvements starting within 12 months?

From Wylie St. to just Memorial. I think that the improvements on Bill Kennedy through Glenwood park will come later and depend on what is going on with the Faqua development there and if Faqua is going to still offer to build part of the trail in Glenwood Park.

They also expect to start construction of the connection of the Eastside trail to Fourth Ward Park within 12 months as well.

Now if I were a betting man I bet it would be more towards the end of the 12 months than sooner.

[SteveD]

Originally Posted by ChrisInmanPark

From Wylie St. to just Memorial. I think that the improvements on Bill Kennedy through Glenwood park will come later and depend on what is going on with the Faqua development there and if Faqua is going to still offer to build part of the trail in Glenwood Park.

They also expect to start construction of the connection of the Eastside trail to Fourth Ward Park within 12 months as well.

Now if I were a betting man I bet it would be more towards the end of the 12 months than sooner.

OK that's what I suspected. They probably need to nail down whatever is going to happen west of Glenwood Park before they cross over I-20. I'll try to make it to the next meeting.

[micropundit]

Late last year, CRIF Lending Solutions purchased a little over an acre off Peachtree Street, directly behind the under-development TD Ameritrade building for $6M. The parcel was owned in a JV of Pope & Land Enterprises and Regent Partners. In its place, sources tell (Bisnow) CRIF intends to develop an estimated 150k SF tower that will partially be used for its own domestic offices. CRIF's Lisa Eikhoff declined to comment except to say "we're still in the planning process and really haven't moved too far down that path yet.
http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-estate/atlanta/new-150k-tower-for-buckhead/

[nature's calling]

Popular Belgian music festival Tomorrowland will make its American debut in Atlanta.
Festival promoters announced late Wednesday the U.S. version will be called TomorrowWorld and will be at Bouckaert Farm, about 30 miles south of Atlanta, Sept. 27-29.

Tomorrowland gets attendees from more than 76 countries and last year tickets sold out three months in advance in under 2 seconds. TomorrowWorld is expected to bring 150,000 visitors to Atlanta.

Festival organizers have put together Global Journey travel packages to Atlanta from 35 cities around the world, such as Los Angeles, New York, Tokyo, Rio De Janeiro and London.
Worldwide ticket sales begin on May 4.
Click here for more.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2013/03/21/atlanta-to-host-tomorrowworld.html

A huge win for Atlanta.

[jnihiser]

DOUBLE POST...sorry. DELETE.

[jnihiser]

http://www.tunspan.com/news_west_town.htm
(from the TSW site)

[jnihiser]

Originally Posted by jnihiser

http://www.tunspan.com/news_west_town.htm
(from the TSW site)

http://www.lordaecksargent.com/profile/project_list/housing_mixed_use/amli_west_town
(from the AMLI site...)

[echinatl]

Originally Posted by nature's calling

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2013/03/21/atlanta-to-host-tomorrowworld.html

A huge win for Atlanta.

HELL YEA! I went to Counterpoint last year and it was REALLY great, this will be even better!
Edit: Rumor is that this will replace Counterpoint.

[cokezero]

Originally Posted by jnihiser

http://www.tunspan.com/news_west_town.htm
(from the TSW site)

If I were a betting man, I'd say that it's still going to happen sooner or later, although probably with much less density. Brock Built survived the housing crash and they were able to maintain ownership of quite a bit of the original West Town assemblage if you check the tax records. Brock is nearly built out at Dupont Commons, so the next logical intown site to build on would be the one they already own at West Town. The only question would be A&D financing because that's still very difficult to obtain for most homebuilding firms. They partnered with a deep pocketed suburban developer named the Pacific Group to help provide the liquidity necessary to get through the housing downturn without losing all their existing projects to the banks, so maybe those guys would team up again on West Town and negate the issue of A&D financing.

Also, AMLI still owns their West Town parcels and Acadia Homes has assembled a block directly adjacent to the West Town property on Fairmont Ave, so it probably won't be too long before that West Town dream comes to fruition.

[delarosa]

Originally Posted by Libertarian

Our society is going to have to learn to... somehow survive with less self-serving bureaucracy.

Something tells me this will happen shortly after humans become less self-serving.

[bryantm3]

i'm really disappointed by all the low-rise development, but not because i don't think it's *dense* enough— it's because the development i've seen so far doesn't seem to be sustainable. what do i mean by sustainable? i mean, in 20 years, are people going to want to live there? will it be livable?

the building codes for high rises are much more strict and you can see when the buildings are going up, that they are solid— iron bars, concrete, a solid base. you're guaranteed that a building like skyhouse is going to be prime real estate 20 years from now.

the low rise development doesn't have to meet the same building standards because it isn't as tall— and developers are cutting corners anyway they can to make the most cost-efficient building. unfortunately that means the whole thing is going to be made out of plywood, drywall, pressure-treated wood, etc. those buildings are great now, but what are they going to look like 20 or 30 years from now after they've had dozens of occupants per room? my guess is that many of these low-rise developments will look like this within 50 years:



so i guess you can see my problem here. i'm worried that all this low-rise development in town will be for naught, because we'll just be building 'the slums of tomorrow'. do y'all really believe that these buildings are built to a quality that they will last?

[RudyJK]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

so i guess you can see my problem here. i'm worried that all this low-rise development in town will be for naught, because we'll just be building 'the slums of tomorrow'. do y'all really believe that these buildings are built to a quality that they will last?

Very little is built to last these days; even most high rises have a cheap look and quality to them. Obsolescence is built in.