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Old Posted Jul 9, 2015, 6:10 PM
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That makes me curious, how many cities have transit smart cards? To my knowledge, Ottawa, Gatineau, Hamilton, Kingston, and Montreal all use them, while Toronto and Kitchener-Waterloo are rolling them out.
Translink in Metro Vancouver is rolling out the Compass card. There have been lengthy delays but it is currently being used by tens of thousands of people a day as they do a phased roll-out. Post-secondary students are transitioning their U-Pass cards to Compass and that will boost use by a good hundred thousand-plus in the fall and I think they are currently aiming for a full roll out early next year.

Cubic is the supplier and it is a tap-on/tap-off system, and it is due to this second piece that the delays stem. The wireless readers on buses are taking too long to read taps (promised read time is less than half a second, and sometimes this isn't met) and Cubic is kind of stuck because they promised in their bid to do this (and won) and now they cannot seem to deliver. Translink isn't prepared to forfeit the tap-off part and, rightly, notes that Cubic is contractually obligated to meet the performance measurements that they promised in their successful RFP submission. It's a fixed-price contract, so in theory Translink isn't losing money on the delays, but the general public is testy and the botched roll-out of Compass was one of the main reasons that the public voted 'no' in the referendum and is convinced that Translink is incompetent.

A common refrain is that it was folly for Translink to not have originally built faregates/turnstiles into SkyTrain, ignoring that Translink didn't exist when original SkyTrain Expo Line was built by the Province in the mid 1980s, and the Province elected to again not include faregates/turnstiles when they built the Millennium Line in the 1990s, again, before Translink existed. Translink elected to not install faregate/turnstiles on the Canada Line since no other part of the system had them, but they ensured that the stations were designed to accommodate them (as opposed to the extensive, costly renos that were required for the Expo and Millennium Line stations). In the late 2000s the Province decided that Translink would install faregates and foisted the program on the agency without any additional funding, but later relented and provided some money to cover part of the station renos (the Feds kicked in a bit, too). All of this is in the context of Translink having lower fare evasion numbers than many systems with faregates and turnstiles and the annual cost of maintaining the faregates will exceed the amount lost to fare evasion each year.
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2015, 6:14 PM
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Bike share program has apparently been a lot better since "Green P" took over from Bixi but, the damage to consumer's confidence is done.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2015, 10:02 PM
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2015, 11:06 PM
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The other problem with Bixi in Toronto was that the original network was somewhat small. It was all basically within walking distance of the subway and there were no stations west of Bathurst. The other problem was that the docking mechanism was too finicky. It was sometimes very difficult to pry a bike out of a rack, especially compared to the other systems I've used.

I agree with WhipperSnapper: a lot of these things have probably been remedied, but I think that consumer confidence has been eroded and once you lose it, you've lost it. It's anecdotal, but I don't know any Torontonians who use Bixi anymore. Many people (including myself, when I lived there) tried it as a novelty and found it to be seriously lacking, and just gave up on it.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2015, 11:26 PM
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Once they expand the network many who were always to far will start using it for the first time. The network should cover Toronto from High Park - St Clair to Pape at the least with stations at all subway stations except for Sheppard, the Allen section of the Spadina line, and the RT.
     
     
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GO Train service to the West Harbour GO Station started this morning.


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Old Posted Jul 10, 2015, 12:59 AM
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What are those little yellow barriers in the first picture?

Good to know West Harbour is finally operational!
     
     
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^ It's basically just a long rubber textured mat. You're suppose to stand behind the yellow mat when the train is approaching.

I think the rubber mat helps for better traction with your shoes, so you won't slip.

Oh I think you mean the ramp? It's a wheelchair ramp. The middle section of all GO Train has ramps.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2015, 1:05 AM
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2015, 11:56 AM
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Presto still requires 24 hours to update your card balance online, or 12 hours if you're in Ottawa.
At least it's possible... in Kingston it's not.

Presto load times are faster if using a fixed reader at a subway, GO, or O-Train station (only 4 hours tops).

And, if you allow pre-authorize Presto payments on a credit card, the load is instantaneous through a feature called autoload.

Autoload works like this: Every time your card falls below a certain point A that the user can set, Presto will automatically load amount B. (I had it set to load $20 every time the balance fell below $20 back when I lived in Ottawa part-time and didn't have a monthly pass). You preauthorize Presto to make charges to your card. The load of amount B is then immediately added to your card balance by the reader as soon as a tap registers a balance below amount A, and then your credit card is charged once the system syncs.
     
     
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Finally found an all metro list. This was probably on here a couple years ago, but I missed it.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2015, 1:22 PM
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New livery for F59PH locomotives on the Candiac line:

     
     
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Soooo... Calgary's Southeast LRT is now funded. The article talks about the whole line, but the Southeast Section will cost $2 billion and will be the first part to go ahead. This is on top of the $520 million the city has already allocated for the project, for a total funding allocation of $2.05 billion. I imagine though that they will build the Green Line down to Douglas Glen, and construct the underground downtown sections of the line and potentially the first phase of the North Central Route, rather than building the $2 billion line all the way to Seton in the first go.

Construction was originally to start next year on the SE Bus Transitway.





Tories announce $1.5B for Green Line LRT project
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The federal government on Friday announced $1.53 billion in funding for Calgary’s Green Line LRT project — about one-third of the project’s total cost.

Construction of the 40-kilometre light rail line connecting north central Calgary to the city’s southeast will begin in 2017, with construction completed by 2024, Mayor Naheed Nenshi said at a news conference.

Nenshi said the funding will force the city to decide quickly how it will handle the line’s Bow River crossing — whether it’s by tunnel or bridge.

“Building the Green Line LRT now means nearly doubling the size of Calgary’s LRT network and serving over 40 million riders a year,” Nenshi said in a news release.
http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/tories-announce-1-5b-for-green-line-lrt-project



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The way the funding probably will work (can't say for sure without seeing the funding agreement, which we will never see unless there is a court case ala the Canada Line) is while the SE may be the first phase, the entire funding package has to be put to bed. $76.5 million each year for 20 years.

The entire green line project is now effectively funded since the province has to soon lay out a replacement grant program for city capital funding. Calgary receives more than enough in provincial gas tax transfers today to fund both the provincial portion and top up the city portion to $76.5.
     
     
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Look how much track $2B gets you! I hate how Toronto has some fear of building high quality LRT. I suspect alot of that is going via ROW on roads as that alignment looks way to strat, but nonetheless your getting cross town trackage for the cost of what we are trying to build for a stump Subway on lands which are just as sparse.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2015, 8:13 PM
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The way the funding probably will work (can't say for sure without seeing the funding agreement, which we will never see unless there is a court case ala the Canada Line) is while the SE may be the first phase, the entire funding package has to be put to bed. $76.5 million each year for 20 years.

The entire green line project is now effectively funded since the province has to soon lay out a replacement grant program for city capital funding. Calgary receives more than enough in provincial gas tax transfers today to fund both the provincial portion and top up the city portion to $76.5.
That's amazing. So the whole thing by 2024? That will make us the first city to have a rail rapid transit network over 100 km in length in the country. Cool!




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Look how much track $2B gets you! I hate how Toronto has some fear of building high quality LRT. I suspect alot of that is going via ROW on roads as that alignment looks way to strat, but nonetheless your getting cross town trackage for the cost of what we are trying to build for a stump Subway on lands which are just as sparse.
Only the North Central Line will be on the road (mostly) as there's really no other way to build it in a cost effective way in a suburban setting. The Southeast Portion of the line (60% of the length) will only have a few at-grade crossings.

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Old Posted Jul 24, 2015, 8:21 PM
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Look how much track $2B gets you! I hate how Toronto has some fear of building high quality LRT. I suspect alot of that is going via ROW on roads as that alignment looks way to strat, but nonetheless your getting cross town trackage for the cost of what we are trying to build for a stump Subway on lands which are just as sparse.

4 years of BS and fear mongering done by our last mayor. Once people see Transit City (the Eglignton Crosstown)up and running they'll wonder why they were against it.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2015, 8:33 PM
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That's amazing. So the whole thing by 2024? That will make us the first city to have a rail rapid transit network over 100 km in length in the country. Cool!
Sorry to burst your bubble, but light rail isn't rapid transit. The only rapid transit systems in Canada are the Toronto subway, Montreal Metro and some could say Vancouver's SkyTrain on the Expo and Millenium lines.

Calgary will have a good light rail network though.
     
     
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