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Old Posted Feb 22, 2022, 4:02 PM
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It will be residential. Proposal includes an addition with parking on the neighbouring lot IIRC.
Which lot? The one next to nutty club?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2022, 4:15 PM
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Which lot? The one next to nutty club?
I think so.

But everything I know about it is very preliminary at this point.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2022, 4:25 PM
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What was the damage from the fire a couple years back?

Also, IIRC, they were proposing an addition of sorts on the south side of the building. There is a thread on SSP for this building with the info.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2022, 4:29 PM
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What was the damage from the fire a couple years back?

Also, IIRC, they were proposing an addition of sorts on the south side of the building. There is a thread on SSP for this building with the info.
What is being proposed now is a redesign. It isn't that same as the original hotel proposal.

I don't think the fire did any measurable damage to the building. It's all concrete.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2022, 4:36 PM
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Thanks Drew.

I just meant they had proposed something on the east side. Not south... Got my directions mixed up.

So one would assume they own that property. As opposed to the lot on the west side.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2022, 4:57 PM
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This is what the addition looked like for the Hyatt proposal

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Old Posted Feb 22, 2022, 5:08 PM
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That was such a nice looking project... a hotel would have done so much for the surrounding area. It's a shame it fell through.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2022, 7:15 PM
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^ it was never a real project, so don't feel too bad.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2022, 7:26 PM
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Well as long as we do not see vehicles parked on the site it’s a step in the right direction I suppose notwithstanding a heritage building being demolished was definitely a wrong decision. If we buy into the concept of “highest and best use” for a site, one also needs to buy into market forces determining what that use may be. If the site was sold for example with a no parking lot caveat, realty taxes and a sale price would have flowed back to the City years ago. To tie up these lands for years and years waiting for your “highest and best use” is not really a successful way to move forward for anyone.

Again any update on a building proposal for the St Regis site? Clarity allows others to move forward and removes uncertainty. No one was going to buy the Sky site and invest development equity until the plans next door were clarified and construction started. A little more transparency goes a long…
Agreed. Sam Katz shouldn't have bought those two hotels. Although one will become a two tower hotel/residential development as part of True North Square (assuming it resumes construction) and the other has a developer working through a very aggressive residential proposal, so I wouldn't say it's all bad....I do agree though, displacing low income residents isn't something I would support either.

Not sure what you mean by the St. Regis site should have been sold with a no parking caveat instead of holding out for the highest best use....you have some vision that Centre Venture is swatting way a line up of eager developers telling them they are not good enough and holding on to the site longer than is required?...and if CV wasn't the broker it would have been sold and developed long ago?...that's not the case.

I'm sure you wouldn't want your private developments being published on an internet forum as you worked through it. You will have to wait for them to go public with their proposal just like everyone else.

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whats the construction fenceing for on donald se corner was [people there working
     
     
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whats the construction fenceing for on donald se corner was [people there working
There are some posts a few pages back. It's a 15 story residential tower. I believe Vike mentioned they are working on it.

It will be so refreshing to see something fill this lot!

I snapped an image of the fenced off lot last week:

     
     
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thought that was the next block up
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2022, 10:31 PM
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thought that was the next block up
A block south at the SW corner of York and Donald there is also fencing up for the conversion of the Best Western into a new hotel (I am forgetting the brand right now). There were some plans floating around for a new Hilton hotel tower at the corner lot there, but I am not sure if that is happening anytime soon
     
     
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A block south at the SW corner of York and Donald there is also fencing up for the conversion of the Best Western into a new hotel (I am forgetting the brand right now). There were some plans floating around for a new Hilton hotel tower at the corner lot there, but I am not sure if that is happening anytime soon
aware of that one.

thought was the old pizza hut site
     
     
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Any hope of something remotely like this for the Winnipeg Bay building?

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/hudsons-...xvM3hBBElD7G90bwLhvAv3cintu3Bg8501JdT1sY
     
     
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aware of that one.

thought was the old pizza hut site
Nope. Maybe another project going on there too. I've lost track. The one at St. Mary is the one we've been expecting for a couple years now.
     
     
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In my opinion this is really ugly.

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To my eyes it looks like downtown construction is seeing a bit of a post-pandemic surge with the 15 storey residential building on Donald, the Wawanesa HQ and the minimum 10 storey parkade at the St. Regis site. If the hotel/condos adjacent to the Wawanesa tower can get re-started, and we can see some movement at the Marketlands and The Bay (trueviking? Any winks here?) there will be a fair amount of action downtown. It looks kind of promising.
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The rendering is not pretty but some of it hinges on the details. If it's just a bunch of EIFS tacked on to the building it won't look great but with the right materials it could look at least somewhat passable? At the very least it is nice to see the hotel get revitalized rather than just sinking into dinginess the way that older downtown hotels often seem to.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2022, 4:58 PM
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oof that's ugly. It used to be a nice little mid-century modern building.

Are they adding floors? Looks a couple higher than the existing building.

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