YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Canadian74]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

ah

I am just used to the whole QU thing

14 hours is pretty crappy to be stuck in a plane

Still better than American customs/immigration.

[excel]

New Vancouver public 737 simulator near south terminal:
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/...8012-5296-4606-81ec-18f9daecc7b1&k=97355

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by natelox

Just because it lands in SFO, doesn't mean the passengers originating from YVR get off. The plane will just pull up to the gate, load passengers and luggage, and take off again. Speaking from experience, I would avoid this at all costs. It can easily turn an already long 14 hour flight into 16 hours or longer (accounting for time to descend, ascend, load passengers and luggage etc..).

That's true... never thought of that.

anyway, so is the correct pronounciation of qantas (almost typed the u out of habit) pronounces Kon-tas then?

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by Canadian74

Still better than American customs/immigration.

yeah i flew into and out of the states in 2002 and they search your baggage before you can even check in

than again before you board the plane and than when i came back they made me miss my connecting flight

[giallo]

Originally Posted by tintinium

That's true... never thought of that.

anyway, so is the correct pronounciation of qantas (almost typed the u out of habit) pronounces Kon-tas then?

No, you still pronounce the Q as if it were Qu.

[muzhav84]

they are starting to remove the temporary wall in the link building, looks like the full building will be open soon. there is still construction going on, but it will be exposed. looks very nice! ill try to get a photo

[SpongeG]

from the outside last week the inside looked done but from the inside where the boarding was it looked like a few small things needed to be finished up

it looked great though and the new check in area was really nice

it was weird but it seemd that people were getting off US airlines and walking through the terminal to get to the domestic terminal

i though that passengers could transfer without having to come into the main area of the terminal?

lots of them looked confused and worried that they were going the wrong way - we could over hear some talking to each other as they tried to get to the domestic area

[muzhav84]

conneting from the US (or international) to a domestic flight, you have to leave the secured area, because you have to clear Canada customs and immigration, and once you do, you leave the secured area. air canada and westjet both have counters in the secured area for passengers arriving from international / transborder, to check in, drop of bags, and collect their boarding passes, but they then have to leave security and go to the domestic terminal to get to their gates.

in the opposite direction (arriving from Canada, going to international or transborder) you can connect within the secured area, because there is no customs and immigration to clear. you simply have to follow the signs to get to your gate. for international, you dont have to do anything but go to your international gate, and everything is checked through. for transborder, you stay behind security, and pick up your luggage at the US transfer carousel, and proceed through US customs and immigration with your bags.

so it is actually much easier for inbound domestic travel going outside canada, than it is for inbound. it all has to do with customs and immigration clearance. but i agree, many passengers are not properly informed of where to go. it is not uncommon for internationally arriving passengers to miss their domestic flight because they couldnt find their way to the domestic terminal

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by giallo

No, you still pronounce the Q as if it were Qu.

Ahhh... but then Qatar would be kwaTar!

[djh]

Originally Posted by tintinium

Ahhh... but then Qatar would be kwaTar!

It's pronounced "Cat-ar" (and it's not an English word, hence the QU rule doesn't apply)

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by muzhav84

conneting from the US (or international) to a domestic flight, you have to leave the secured area, because you have to clear Canada customs and immigration, and once you do, you leave the secured area. air canada and westjet both have counters in the secured area for passengers arriving from international / transborder, to check in, drop of bags, and collect their boarding passes, but they then have to leave security and go to the domestic terminal to get to their gates.

in the opposite direction (arriving from Canada, going to international or transborder) you can connect within the secured area, because there is no customs and immigration to clear. you simply have to follow the signs to get to your gate. for international, you dont have to do anything but go to your international gate, and everything is checked through. for transborder, you stay behind security, and pick up your luggage at the US transfer carousel, and proceed through US customs and immigration with your bags.

so it is actually much easier for inbound domestic travel going outside canada, than it is for inbound. it all has to do with customs and immigration clearance. but i agree, many passengers are not properly informed of where to go. it is not uncommon for internationally arriving passengers to miss their domestic flight because they couldnt find their way to the domestic terminal

ah

we watched one poor family all lost - the wife was all i think we're lost are you sure this is the way and the husband was like yeah lets just keep going this way

maybe this is an area that could be improved at the airport? help the weary travellers out a little

[bbeliko]

A Fake Airline

Macau based Metis TransPacific Charter Airlines seems like a true bargain airline - until you realise they do not fly.





An interesting and elaborate website for this supposed Macau based long haul airline, but one which apparently does not actually operate any flights - although seeking to sell tickets through their web operation.

A SKYTRAX reader, Deanne Potter said "this new Macau based charter airline offers discounted flights between Macau, SAR, China and Vancouver, BC, Canada. The company’s website offers amazing seat sales and I recently reserved the Santa Special for HK1500 return. I received an email from reservations saying my requested travel dates were confirmed for 24 hours and that I could secure the ticket by wiring the money into the company’s Hong Kong bank account. I was asked to email my passenger information and the wire transfer number so my ticket could be issued. I had some questions regarding the ticket but was unable to find a current phone number for the company. The only number I could find is no longer in service and all contact information on the company’s website is via email. I began to get a little suspicious so I rang the Macau International Airport Authority and was informed that the airport has cancelled all Metis Transpacific flights out of Macau and that I should not pay for the said ticket. I feel that I have narrowly missed being conned and am posting this so that other unsuspecting travellers don’t get caught out too."


"The Metis Transpacific website makes all sorts of claims about aircraft, fleet and product offering, and even includes some internal cabin shots taken from an ex-South African Airways Boeing 747-400" said Peter Miller of Skytrax.

"However, neither Macau or Vancouver airports include any flights for this airline, despite the Metis Transpacific website stating that they have a flight operating today (2nd November) on this very route!" added Miller.

"It appears to be a clear case of buyer beware of these type of antics" according to Skytrax CEO Edward Plaisted. "Whilst the majority of potential customers will quickly realise that this is a spoof operation, with the price of air fares they are seeking to sell, it does not take many unwary consumers for such a company to falsely obtain substantial sums of money."

[muzhav84]

thats interesting about metis transpacific, i always wondered what the deal was with them. they never came to YVR, and I thought i was missing something. what a con, hopefully not too many people bought into it!

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by djh

It's pronounced "Cat-ar" (and it's not an English word, hence the QU rule doesn't apply)

I always thought it was ka-Tar!

I really need to put this little symbol behind my posts:

[phesto]

Direct flights from YVR to Guangzhou to begin in 2009

Vancouver Sun
Published: Thursday, November 29, 2007

GUANGZHOU, CHINA - B.C.'s role as Canada's Pacific Gateway was strengthened during Premier Gordon Campbell's mission to Asia, with an agreement signed between Vancouver International Airport (YVR) and China Southern Airlines that will see the first direct flights between Vancouver and Guangzhou starting July 2009.

"The Province has been at the forefront of efforts to establish direct flights between B.C. and Guangdong," said Premier Campbell, in a news release. "This agreement strengthens B.C.'s position as Canada's Pacific Gateway and supports increased cultural and business connections between B.C. and our sister province in China."

Officials signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) during a bilateral meeting Thursday, confirming the commencement of the first direct flights between Vancouver and Guangzhou in 2009. Premier Campbell is also meeting with China Eastern Airlines and Cathay Pacific Airlines during his trade mission to discuss expanding transportation links between China and B.C.

"Currently, citizens of Guangdong must travel either to Shanghai or Beijing to take advantage of air services to Vancouver, or alternatively transit through Hong Kong," said Tony Gugliotta, Vancouver Airport Authority's senior vice-president of marketing and commercial development, in the release. "Direct air service will allow greater ease and comfort for the many travelers moving between our two provinces."

British Columbia's Pacific Gateway Strategy targets 75 per cent growth in passengers traveling through Vancouver International Airport and a doubling of air cargo handled at YVR by 2020.

China is B.C.'s second-largest trading partner, with bilateral trade of more than $10 billion in 2006. China is also the top source of immigrants to B.C., with close to 11,000 immigrants settling in B.C. in 2006. Guangdong and British Columbia have been sister provinces since 1995.

[SpongeG]

great - is it a new airline for Vancouver too? China Southern Airlines

[excel]

Finally some good news, we will likely see their A330 or if we are lucky their 777-200ER. They also have orders for 787's with the first delivery in 2008.

A330:


777-200ER:

[SpongeG]

from wikipedia

On September 10, 2007, China Southern was awarded by CAAC to launch several new daily services to the U.S. and Europe in 2008 and 2009, including Beijing-Newark (beginning July 2008), Guangzhou-Moscow (October 2008), Beijing-Detroit (March 2009), Beijing-London (March 2009), Guangzhou-Vancouver (July 2009).[7] China Southern will also add 2 weekly flights from Guangzhou to Los Angeles in June 2008, and a daily flight from Beijing to Amsterdam in March 2009. China Southern has announced it will use the new Airbus A380 and Boeing 787 to operate the new routes. Since the delivery of both aircraft has been postponed, detailed information on the new flights have not been announced.

maybe we will get the A380

[giallo]

That's awesome news. Guangdong province is such an amazing part of China and the world. All Vancouver needs now is a direct flight to either Chengdu (probably not going to happen) or Chongqing (very possible in the near future) in Sichuan province and it's set for China coverage.

[The_Henry_Man]

My dad just told me that according to tonight's Fairchild TV news, China Southern will be using Airbus 380 for the Guangzhou-Van route, next year.