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[soewnz]

More in the realm of long-term dreaming, but I'd love to see this Polo Park residential expansion boost the case for a BRT or light rail transit link between the airport, Polo Park, and downtown. I can't remember if that specific path is outlined in the Winnipeg Transit Master Plan, but I feel like it's just crucial to link your downtown with the airport, and a Polo Park area like the one CF is envisioning would be a great stop along the way!

[esquire]

Winnipeg Airport is not a major trip generator... an LRT to YWG would be running empty most of the time. You would get way more bang for the buck by creating some kind of airport express bus that goes between downtown and Polo Park, and then nonstop to the airport or some such. Do that every 20 minutes, build a nice, highly visible, heated shelter at the airport, and that will give you most of the benefits of LRT with nowhere near the cost.

[bomberjet]

While that's true and the market is hot. What is the trend going forward? I don't really now, just asking.

Canada, and Manitoba in particular, live off immigration. We need it to survive. There's only so many people moving out of moms basement.

Concerns for downtown on who will live in 300 Main for example. Sure some people will go back to the office, and I assume immigration will pick up again. But when.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

While that's true and the market is hot. What is the trend going forward? I don't really now, just asking.

Canada, and Manitoba in particular, live off immigration. We need it to survive. There's only so many people moving out of moms basement to prop up the current torrid pace.

We only need enough immigration to keep the population from shrinking. I'm not sure that we really need to keep adding more people to sustain the growth rates of the last 20+ years.

[zalf]

Originally Posted by esquire

Winnipeg Airport is not a major trip generator... an LRT to YWG would be running empty most of the time. You would get way more bang for the buck by creating some kind of airport express bus that goes between downtown and Polo Park, and then nonstop to the airport or some such. Do that every 20 minutes, build a nice, highly visible, heated shelter at the airport, and that will give you most of the benefits of LRT with nowhere near the cost.

This is pretty much what's in the Master Plan. K and L "frequent" lines (every 10-15 minutes) going Downtown, or transfer to the O line to Polo Park and its BRT line.

[WildCake]

Originally Posted by soewnz

More in the realm of long-term dreaming, but I'd love to see this Polo Park residential expansion boost the case for a BRT or light rail transit link between the airport, Polo Park, and downtown. I can't remember if that specific path is outlined in the Winnipeg Transit Master Plan, but I feel like it's just crucial to link your downtown with the airport, and a Polo Park area like the one CF is envisioning would be a great stop along the way!

https://winnipegtransit.com/assets/2...Long_Term_.pdf

The 2045 transit master plan has the portage extension of the Blue line going to Polo Park but no link to the airport. If the passenger count was there I'm sure a branch or a simple transfer from Polo to the airport could be added. Maybe even use Empress then Jack Blick/Milt Stegall with priority signaling as a bus route if we're on the dreaming page.

I would be curious of the current and projected numbers by mode of transportation to the airport. I've personally always like taking transit when I travel for work to cities with legitimate networks. Way less of a hassle than car rentals. But in it's current state I would probably opt for a rental if I was visiting Winnipeg, vs. using transit.

Building up residential at Polo and the old stadium would definitely be a strong case for better transit service. Those two sites alone could add thousands, on top of any new infill/densification that comes from the Airport Vicinity Plan changes.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by esquire

Good question. But I'd say that even if the pandemic delays CF's plans, I could see it still happening eventually, especially given that the fundamentals of the housing market haven't really changed over the past few years.

For the rest of my life, I will never be able to read the word 'fundamentals' and not hear it in Dr. Roussin's voice.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by zalf

This is pretty much what's in the Master Plan. K and L "frequent" lines (every 10-15 minutes) going Downtown, or transfer to the O line to Polo Park and its BRT line.

Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, I guess when you are a city where rapid transit dollars are so scarce, do you allocate them to a high-profile but low-traffic route where maybe a few hundred airport employees and travellers a day might use it, or do you allocate them to a less glamorous but far more useful route that could attract thousands of users a day?

I'd rather built rapid transit for daily users in St. James or East Kildonan as opposed to occasional users from elsewhere who are coming into town and looking for an inexpensive ride to their hotel.

Originally Posted by trueviking

For the rest of my life, I will never be able to read the word 'fundamentals' and not hear it in Dr. Roussin's voice.

[1ajs]

RE: airport line lets turn elice or sargent into a transit coridor or notre damn got rrc tec voc and hsc along that one as well

[thebasketballgeek]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

RE: airport line lets turn elice or sargent into a transit coridor or notre damn got rrc tec voc and hsc along that one as well

If we’re dreaming about an airport line why not reconnect Wellington Ave back to the existing grid?

In fact it would connect to Cumberland at HSC and there would be a possibility to run a direct transit line from Canada Life Centre to the Airport. You can get additional stops at DMCI, Central Park, Sargent Park, and Superstore at Polo. Looking to the transit master plan it would also be a perfect extension of the Donald Route. There’s even space for high density infill near Garbage Hill. So much opportunity for revitalization and development.

[dam_well]

I don't think a line to the airport should be a priority but the airport wouldn't be the only trip generator. It depends where the line runs but there's a decent amount of transit use already on St. James. Nothing mind blowing but any time I'm on the 77 it's always fairly full with people getting on and off all along the line.

Also an airport branch could probably extend all the way to the College, all though that wouldn't be a very direct route so it would have to be pretty fast.

[WinCitySparky]

Massive construction fire on Kimberly, is this the project earlier posts were talking about that the church was building?

https://globalnews.ca/news/8584059/t...ildonan-blaze/

[soewnz]

Originally Posted by esquire

Winnipeg Airport is not a major trip generator... an LRT to YWG would be running empty most of the time. You would get way more bang for the buck by creating some kind of airport express bus that goes between downtown and Polo Park, and then nonstop to the airport or some such. Do that every 20 minutes, build a nice, highly visible, heated shelter at the airport, and that will give you most of the benefits of LRT with nowhere near the cost.

Good point. Transfer at Polo Park would be a decent stop for someone new to Winnipeg as well. I just think of the current airport bus routes which I take everyday, and if I was new to Winnipeg trying to get around I'd wonder where that bus was taking me...

For those who are taking public transportation from the airport, there has to be something with minimal transfers, and shouldn't scare them away from ever wanting to come back to Winnipeg lol

[esquire]

Originally Posted by WinCitySparky

Massive construction fire on Kimberly, is this the project earlier posts were talking about that the church was building?

https://globalnews.ca/news/8584059/t...ildonan-blaze/

Whooo nelly, reminds me of a similar construction blaze at an apartment building across from Grace Hospital maybe 15 years ago?

[cllew]

Originally Posted by WinCitySparky

Massive construction fire on Kimberly, is this the project earlier posts were talking about that the church was building?

https://globalnews.ca/news/8584059/t...ildonan-blaze/

No thats to the east of the Church project. This fire is at London and Kimberly next to the old EK Dump.

Probably going to be a total loss as its an all wood frame construction and will probably burn really good.

[WinCitySparky]

Originally Posted by cllew

No thats to the east of the Church project. This fire is at London and Kimberly next to the old EK Dump.

Oh damn now I know where that is, thanks

[cllew]

Fire response would be quick as it is located 1 block or so from the Kimberly Fire Station.

[thebasketballgeek]

Oh btw the 4025 Roblin Blvd proposal got downsized from 10 storeys to 7 storeys so probably 50-60 less units then the 200 initially proposed. Of course I don’t think anyone was expecting it to be that tall considering it was 13 hours of NIMBYism, but 7 storeys is a compromise I’ll take 10/10 times when it comes to Charleswood.

https://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/Vie...8&isMobile=yes

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by esquire

We only need enough immigration to keep the population from shrinking. I'm not sure that we really need to keep adding more people to sustain the growth rates of the last 20+ years.

but it would be cool AF if Winnipeg was 1 Million people in the city proper

[bomberjet]

Crazy about that fire. I used to build my tree forts in that lot as a kid. Lived across the street.

They were welding in there as of yesterday from what I heard today. So one would assume that to be the cause today. Workers were on site and scrambled out. Only took a few minutes to spread throughout the building.

This building had the major opposition during approvals. The cut the height and reoriented. Too bad now the trees along the north side are toast. Was a nice buffer to the low density housing.